LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires

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As my post stated, Los Angeles County and City control it. State government does not have direct control over what The Land of LA does with the water it draws from state and county reservoirs.

Once again, where does the water come from?  State and county reservoirs?

Are there any county reservoirs that the state mandates on collection methods, environmental control, etc. that are exempt from these state mandates?

If not, there is zero chance the state does not have control over any county or state reservoirs.

The state has broad fingers into local actions and whether it is direct or indirect, can cause anomalies in the independent exercise of local control.

Think of it this way:
Was not the recent collapse of the Santa Cruz pier not indirectly controlled by the state when the mandatory environmental regulations caused the delay to needed structural work being performed?

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James Woods
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Clients of our friend were trying to lease a house while their home was being renovated. The lease was for $18,000 per month. They were to sign the  papers the day of the fire. Now the people renting want $30,000.

The vultures are circling and the flames aren’t even out yet.

I know this is an 'exclusive neighborhood, but for goodness sakes.  That amount of money to put a roof over one's head is symptomatic of the problems of California:  Average people can never be in a position to purchase a house or even think about renting one at such prices.

[libertybele]

Deadly Los Angeles wildfires: New evacuation orders as biggest blaze stretches east

 • Crews have reported some progress in the dayslong battle against deadly wildfires in Los Angeles, but more than 100,000 residents remain under evacuation orders. Officials have confirmed at least 11 deaths, but say it’s not yet safe to assess the true total.

• Firefighters are racing to make progress ahead of more wind and dry conditions. The coastal Palisades Fire is at least 11% contained but now moving inland toward the communities of Encino, West LA and Brentwood, near the Getty Center and UCLA. The Eaton Fire in Altadena is 15% contained, with firefighters reporting favorable conditions overnight.

• California’s governor is calling for an independent investigation into what caused some hydrants to lose water pressure during the height of this week’s firefights. A CNN review of the response suggests a devastating combination of factors pushed the county’s resources beyond its limits.

https://www.cnn.com/weather/live-news/los-angeles-wildfires-palisades-eaton-california-01-11-25/index.html

[libertybele]

I know this is an 'exclusive neighborhood, but for goodness sakes.  That amount of money to put a roof over one's head is symptomatic of the problems of California:  Average people can never be in a position to purchase a house or even think about renting one at such prices.

There should be strict laws in place in CA against price gouging during a disaster.

[mystery-ak]

Well you knew it was coming

Khloe Kardashian rips LA mayor Karen Bass amid wildfire disaster: ‘You are a joke’

https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/entertainment/khloe-kardashian-rips-la-mayor-karen-bass-amid-wildfire-disaster-you-are-a-joke/

[mystery-ak]

LA fires live updates: 13 people reported missing amid deadly LA wildfires

The Palisades, Eaton and Hurst and fires are still out-of-control in Los Angeles on Saturday, four days since they began ripping across the county, killing at least 11 people, displacing nearly 200,000, and destroying as many as 10,000 structures, including whole residential neighborhoods.

At least 35,000 acres of land have burned down — an area about two-and-a-half times the size of Manhattan.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/09/us-news/la-fires-live-updates-01-09-25/

[libertybele]

Well you knew it was coming

Khloe Kardashian rips LA mayor Karen Bass amid wildfire disaster: ‘You are a joke’

https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/entertainment/khloe-kardashian-rips-la-mayor-karen-bass-amid-wildfire-disaster-you-are-a-joke/

I wonder if Kardashian voted for Bass?

[libertybele]

LA fires live updates: 13 people reported missing amid deadly LA wildfires

The Palisades, Eaton and Hurst and fires are still out-of-control in Los Angeles on Saturday, four days since they began ripping across the county, killing at least 11 people, displacing nearly 200,000, and destroying as many as 10,000 structures, including whole residential neighborhoods.

At least 35,000 acres of land have burned down — an area about two-and-a-half times the size of Manhattan.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/09/us-news/la-fires-live-updates-01-09-25/

This is a tragedy on so many different levels.  200,000 displaced people; so where are they all going to go? 

[Hoodat]

‘Gross Mismanagement’: Petition for Urgent Recall of L.A.’s Democrat Mayor Karen Bass Hits 59,150 Signatures

Los Angeles residents are demanding that Mayor Karen Bass (D) be immediately recalled as fires devastate their communities.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/11/gross-mismanagement-petition-urgent-recall-l-a-s-democrat-mayor-karen-bass-hits-59150-signatures/

Here is a list of individuals and organizations who endorsed Karen Bass for mayor two years ago.  Remember these names.  Remember next election how worthless their endorsements are.  Remember next time to do the exact opposite of what these people do:


Federal officials
Joe Biden, 46th President of the United States, 47th Vice President of the United States and former U.S. Senator from Delaware
Barack Obama, 44th President of the United States and former U.S. Senator from Illinois
Kamala Harris, 49th Vice President of the United States, former U.S. Senator from California and former Attorney General of California
Hillary Clinton, former U.S. Secretary of State, former U.S. Senator from New York, and former First Lady of the United States

U.S. Senators
Cory Booker, U.S. Senator for New Jersey
Barbara Boxer, former U.S. Senator for California
Alex Padilla, U.S. Senator for California
Bernie Sanders, U.S. Senator for Vermont
Elizabeth Warren, U.S. Senator for Massachusetts

U.S. Representatives
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives
Steny Hoyer, United States House of Representatives House Majority Leader
Tony Cárdenas, U.S. Representative for California's 29th congressional district
James Clyburn, United States House of Representatives House Majority Whip
Pete Aguilar, U.S. Representative for California's 31st congressional district
Howard Berman, former U.S. Representative for California's 28th congressional district
Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, former U.S. Representative, former member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors and member of the Amtrak Board of Directors
Judy Chu, U.S. Representative for California's 27th congressional district
Jimmy Gomez, U.S. Representative for California's 34th congressional district
Mike Levin, U.S. Representative for California's 49th congressional district
Mel Levine, former U.S. Representative for California's 27th congressional district
Ted Lieu, U.S. Representative for California's 33rd congressional district
Alan Lowenthal, U.S. Representative for California's 47th congressional district
Katie Porter, U.S. Representative for California's 45th congressional district
Lucille Roybal-Allard, U.S. Representative for California's 40th congressional district
Adam Schiff, U.S. Representative for California's 28th congressional district
Norma Torres, U.S. Representative for California's 35th congressional district
Juan Vargas, U.S. Representative for California's 51st congressional district
Diane Watson, former U.S. Representative for California's 31st congressional district (2003–2011)
Henry Waxman, former U.S. Representative for California's 33rd congressional district

Statewide officials
Gray Davis, 37th Governor of California
Eleni Kounalakis, 50th Lieutenant Governor of California
Shirley Weber, 31st Secretary of State of California
Rob Bonta, 34th Attorney General of California

State senators
Steven Bradford, state senator for the 35th district
María Elena Durazo, state senator for the 24th district
Sydney Kamlager, state senator for the 30th district

State assemblymembers
Anthony Rendon, Speaker of the California State Assembly
Isaac Bryan, state assemblyman for the 54th Assembly district
Mike Gipson, state assemblyman for the 64th Assembly district
Chris Holden, state assemblyman for the 41st Assembly district
Reggie Jones-Sawyer, state assemblyman for the 59th Assembly district
John Pérez, 68th Speaker of the California State Assembly (2010–2014)
Luz Rivas, state assemblywoman for the 39th Assembly district
Henry Stern, state assemblyman for the 27th Assembly district
Autumn Burke, former state assemblywoman for the 62nd Assembly district (2014–2022)
Bonnie Lowenthal, former state assemblywoman (2008–2014)

Mayors
Antonio Villaraigosa, former mayor of Los Angeles

Citywide officials
Mike Feuer, Los Angeles City Attorney and former mayoral candidate

City Councilmembers
Bob Blumenfield, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 3rd district
Mike Bonin, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 11th district
Marqueece Harris-Dawson, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 8th district
Jackie Goldberg, former member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 13th district and LAUSD Board member
Nury Martinez, former President of the Los Angeles City Council
Curren Price, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 9th district
Nithya Raman, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 4th district
Mark Ridley-Thomas, suspended member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 10th district
Rosalind Wiener Wyman, former member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 5th district

Los Angeles County officials
Sheila Kuehl, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 3rd district
Holly Mitchell, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 2nd district
Hilda Solis, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 1st district

Individuals
J. J. Abrams, filmmaker
Patricia Arquette, actress and activist
Sharon Brous, rabbi
Yvette Nicole Brown, actress, comedian and writer
Jackson Browne, musician and activist
Kate Capshaw, artist
Rosario Dawson, actress
Colman Domingo, actor, writer, and director
Michael Eisner, former CEO of The Walt Disney Company
America Ferrera, actress
Jane Fonda, actress and activist
Ari Emanuel, CEO of Endeavor
Cedric the Entertainer, actor and stand-up comedian
Jennifer Garner, actress
Donald Glover, rapper and actor
Roger Goodell, 6th Commissioner of the National Football League (2006–present)
Kim Gordon, artist and musician
Ariana Grande, musician and actress
Kathy Griffin, actress and comedian
Chelsea Handler, comedian and actress
Christy Haubegger, founder of Latina magazine
Dolores Huerta, labor leader and civil rights activist
Samuel L. Jackson, actor and producer
Ken Jeong, comedian, actor and licensed physician
Magic Johnson, former professional basketball player
Jeffrey Katzenberg, film producer and media proprietor
Mina Kimes, investigative journalist
Norman Lear, writer and producer
Damon Lindelof, screenwriter and producer
Shonda Rhimes, television producer, screenwriter and author
Tracee Ellis Ross, actress, TV producer and former model
Nina Shaw, attorney
Steve Soboroff, Los Angeles Police Commissioner and commercial real-estate developer
Octavia Spencer, actress
Steven Spielberg, film director
Danny Trejo, actor
Kerry Washington, actress, producer, and director
Common (rapper) (AKA Lonnie Rashid Lynn) actor and rapper from Chicago

Organizations
Armenian National Committee of America
EMILY's List
United Food and Commercial Workers Local 770
Stonewall Democrats
Teamsters Joint Council 42
National Union of Healthcare Workers
United Teachers Los Angeles
Working Families Party

Newspapers and other media
Los Angeles Times
The Korea Times

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/1878131873542512731

The crest of that hill would be a great place to attack the fire and block its spread.  If only there was some type of aircraft they could use to dump water or some other flame retardant on it.

[libertybele]

Here is a list of individuals and organizations who endorsed Karen Bass for mayor two years ago.  Remember these names.  Remember next election how worthless their endorsements are.  Remember next time to do the exact opposite of what these people do:


Federal officials
Joe Biden, 46th President of the United States, 47th Vice President of the United States and former U.S. Senator from Delaware
Barack Obama, 44th President of the United States and former U.S. Senator from Illinois
Kamala Harris, 49th Vice President of the United States, former U.S. Senator from California and former Attorney General of California
Hillary Clinton, former U.S. Secretary of State, former U.S. Senator from New York, and former First Lady of the United States

U.S. Senators
Cory Booker, U.S. Senator for New Jersey
Barbara Boxer, former U.S. Senator for California
Alex Padilla, U.S. Senator for California
Bernie Sanders, U.S. Senator for Vermont
Elizabeth Warren, U.S. Senator for Massachusetts

U.S. Representatives
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives
Steny Hoyer, United States House of Representatives House Majority Leader
Tony Cárdenas, U.S. Representative for California's 29th congressional district
James Clyburn, United States House of Representatives House Majority Whip
Pete Aguilar, U.S. Representative for California's 31st congressional district
Howard Berman, former U.S. Representative for California's 28th congressional district
Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, former U.S. Representative, former member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors and member of the Amtrak Board of Directors
Judy Chu, U.S. Representative for California's 27th congressional district
Jimmy Gomez, U.S. Representative for California's 34th congressional district
Mike Levin, U.S. Representative for California's 49th congressional district
Mel Levine, former U.S. Representative for California's 27th congressional district
Ted Lieu, U.S. Representative for California's 33rd congressional district
Alan Lowenthal, U.S. Representative for California's 47th congressional district
Katie Porter, U.S. Representative for California's 45th congressional district
Lucille Roybal-Allard, U.S. Representative for California's 40th congressional district
Adam Schiff, U.S. Representative for California's 28th congressional district
Norma Torres, U.S. Representative for California's 35th congressional district
Juan Vargas, U.S. Representative for California's 51st congressional district
Diane Watson, former U.S. Representative for California's 31st congressional district (2003–2011)
Henry Waxman, former U.S. Representative for California's 33rd congressional district

Statewide officials
Gray Davis, 37th Governor of California
Eleni Kounalakis, 50th Lieutenant Governor of California
Shirley Weber, 31st Secretary of State of California
Rob Bonta, 34th Attorney General of California

State senators
Steven Bradford, state senator for the 35th district
María Elena Durazo, state senator for the 24th district
Sydney Kamlager, state senator for the 30th district

State assemblymembers
Anthony Rendon, Speaker of the California State Assembly
Isaac Bryan, state assemblyman for the 54th Assembly district
Mike Gipson, state assemblyman for the 64th Assembly district
Chris Holden, state assemblyman for the 41st Assembly district
Reggie Jones-Sawyer, state assemblyman for the 59th Assembly district
John Pérez, 68th Speaker of the California State Assembly (2010–2014)
Luz Rivas, state assemblywoman for the 39th Assembly district
Henry Stern, state assemblyman for the 27th Assembly district
Autumn Burke, former state assemblywoman for the 62nd Assembly district (2014–2022)
Bonnie Lowenthal, former state assemblywoman (2008–2014)

Mayors
Antonio Villaraigosa, former mayor of Los Angeles

Citywide officials
Mike Feuer, Los Angeles City Attorney and former mayoral candidate

City Councilmembers
Bob Blumenfield, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 3rd district
Mike Bonin, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 11th district
Marqueece Harris-Dawson, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 8th district
Jackie Goldberg, former member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 13th district and LAUSD Board member
Nury Martinez, former President of the Los Angeles City Council
Curren Price, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 9th district
Nithya Raman, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 4th district
Mark Ridley-Thomas, suspended member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 10th district
Rosalind Wiener Wyman, former member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 5th district

Los Angeles County officials
Sheila Kuehl, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 3rd district
Holly Mitchell, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 2nd district
Hilda Solis, member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors for the 1st district

Individuals
J. J. Abrams, filmmaker
Patricia Arquette, actress and activist
Sharon Brous, rabbi
Yvette Nicole Brown, actress, comedian and writer
Jackson Browne, musician and activist
Kate Capshaw, artist
Rosario Dawson, actress
Colman Domingo, actor, writer, and director
Michael Eisner, former CEO of The Walt Disney Company
America Ferrera, actress
Jane Fonda, actress and activist
Ari Emanuel, CEO of Endeavor
Cedric the Entertainer, actor and stand-up comedian
Jennifer Garner, actress
Donald Glover, rapper and actor
Roger Goodell, 6th Commissioner of the National Football League (2006–present)
Kim Gordon, artist and musician
Ariana Grande, musician and actress
Kathy Griffin, actress and comedian
Chelsea Handler, comedian and actress
Christy Haubegger, founder of Latina magazine
Dolores Huerta, labor leader and civil rights activist
Samuel L. Jackson, actor and producer
Ken Jeong, comedian, actor and licensed physician
Magic Johnson, former professional basketball player
Jeffrey Katzenberg, film producer and media proprietor
Mina Kimes, investigative journalist
Norman Lear, writer and producer
Damon Lindelof, screenwriter and producer
Shonda Rhimes, television producer, screenwriter and author
Tracee Ellis Ross, actress, TV producer and former model
Nina Shaw, attorney
Steve Soboroff, Los Angeles Police Commissioner and commercial real-estate developer
Octavia Spencer, actress
Steven Spielberg, film director
Danny Trejo, actor
Kerry Washington, actress, producer, and director
Common (rapper) (AKA Lonnie Rashid Lynn) actor and rapper from Chicago

Organizations
Armenian National Committee of America
EMILY's List
United Food and Commercial Workers Local 770
Stonewall Democrats
Teamsters Joint Council 42
National Union of Healthcare Workers
United Teachers Los Angeles
Working Families Party

Newspapers and other media
Los Angeles Times
The Korea Times

Good post!!!  With Kathy Griffin, Pelosi, Schiff, Jane Fonda endorsements -- here's your sign folks!

[DCPatriot]

https://x.com/JonCovering/status/1877934034040356869

My Heart Will Go On... parody

[Hoodat]

There should be strict laws in place in CA against price gouging during a disaster.

I disagree.  What is needed is a better collective memory.  Government regulation is not the answer.

I remember a few years back in Atlanta where the Colonial Pipeline from the Gulf refineries was shut down, resulting in a gas shortage.  Many stations ran out of gas.  There were a few stations that jacked their prices up to $5/gal (when normally less than $2) to take advantage of the shortage - supply and demand.

Personally, I believe that is their prerogative.  If someone truly needed gas, it was available at a premium.  But the payback comes once the pipeline reopened and prices came back down.  From that point forward, everyone knew which stations decided to price gouge during an emergency.  They saw their future bottom line decline substantially all because they decided to gouge for the short term.

Businesses can do whatever they choose to do.  But they may want to consider their future relationship with their community when deciding on pricing.

As for the landlords above, put their names out there.  Or at least the address of the property.  And let people know that the people owning that house tried to take advantage of the fire situation by jacking up their rents.  Start a website of shame, and put their names at the top.   We don't need government regulation for that.

[Hoodat]

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/LosAngelesATF/status/1878138648329081299

[IsailedawayfromFR]

https://twitter.com/LosAngelesATF/status/1878138648329081299

That is not the prerogative of the ATF to determine origin of fire.  Only if it is in fact arson.
Most of the libs and state authorities believe it to be climate change, so Greta should be charged with finding its cause.


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[Hoodat]

I wonder if Kardashian voted for Bass?

Here is a list of individuals and organizations who endorsed Bass' opponent - Rick Caruso - in the last mayoral election.  There's a Kardashian and a Jenner on that list:



Mayors
Richard Riordan, former mayor of Los Angeles

City Councilmembers
Joe Buscaino, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 15th district and former mayoral candidate
Gil Cedillo, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 1st district
John Lee, member of the Los Angeles City Council for the 12th district

Police Chiefs
Charlie Beck, former Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department
William Bratton, former Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, New York City Police Commissioner, and Boston Police Department Commissioner

Individuals
Adam Aron, businessman, CEO of AMC Theatres
Clarence Avant, music executive, entrepreneur, and film producer
Sean Bailey, president of Walt Disney Studios Motion Picture Production
Scooter Braun, record executive
Kate del Castillo, actress
Snoop Dogg, rapper
Josh Flagg, real estate agent, television personality, and author
Sweet Alice Harris, community organizer
Olivia Jade, YouTuber and daughter of Mossimo Giannulli
Kris Jenner, media personality
Kim Kardashian, socialite, model, and businesswoman
George Lopez, actor and comedian
Bryan Lourd, talent agent
Katharine McPhee, singer-songwriter and actress
Elon Musk, businessman, CEO of Tesla and SpaceX
Gwyneth Paltrow, actress and businesswoman
Katy Perry, singer-songwriter
Chris Pratt, actor
Wolfgang Puck, chef and restaurateur
Ted Sarandos, businessman and co-CEO of Netflix
Maria Shriver, journalist, author, and former First Lady of California
Evan Spiegel, co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc.
Jay Sures, co-president of the United Talent Agency
Cenk Uygur, co-founder, CEO, and host of The Young Turks, co-founder of Justice Democrats, founder of Wolf PAC, and candidate for California's 25th congressional district in 2020
Dana Walden, businesswoman, chairwoman of Walt Disney Television

Police unions
Los Angeles Police Protective League

Newspapers and other media
Los Angeles Daily News
Pasadena Star-News

Organizations
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 11

Foreign Politicians
Mark Leviste, Vice Governor of Batangas, Philippines

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1878164041413062669

[Hoodat]

ATF Los Angeles
@LosAngelesATF
ATF will take the lead in determining the origin and cause of the Pacific Palisades fire. Certified fire investigators have been on scene and will continue to work in conjunction with state and local investigators to determine the cause of this tragic event.

It is not the cause that made this a tragic event.  It is the abject neglect by Democrat politicians over the last two decades that made this a tragic event.  Governing requires responsibility - a duty to serve the people by removing the hazards of dry timber and to provide water and the means to deliver it as an emergency response.  Democrats have failed, both critically and chronically despite years upon years of warnings.

[mystery-ak]

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It would be hell on vegetation, though.

Fly over oil fields and see if one can spot the salt-water leaks over the years....

[Hoodat]

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
JUST IN: The DC-10 tanker has dropped about 10,000 gallons of fire retardant to slow the fire in Brentwood.

Amazing.  The moment that Brentwood is threatened, a DC-10 loaded with flame retardant magically appears.  I hope OJ's house is OK.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1878166307138387978

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It is not the cause that made this a tragic event.  It is the abject neglect by Democrat politicians over the last two decades that made this a tragic event.  Governing requires responsibility - a duty to serve the people by removing the hazards of dry timber and to provide water and the means to deliver it as an emergency response.  Democrats have failed, both critically and chronically despite years upon years of warnings.

Isn't that synonymous with arson but for the ignition?

Who is to blame if you gave the car keys to a 12 year old and told him to drive on the freeway? Or even if you told him not to drive on the freeway and he did anyway?

[mountaineer]

That is not the prerogative of the ATF to determine origin of fire.  Only if it is in fact arson.
Most of the libs and state authorities believe it to be climate change, so Greta should be charged with finding its cause.

Don't most states have fire marshals? Why is this not the purview of a state agency?