BREAKING...There has been a school shooting at Apalachee High School

[PeteS in CA]

Georgia School Shooter's Family is Really... Something

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/09/06/georgia-school-shooters-family-is-really-something-n3794127

This wasn't a case where Colin Gray simply purchased the gun as a gift for his son. He gave it to him seven months after law enforcement visited their home to question Colt about threats to shoot up a school. Colin assured investigators that Colt never had "unsupervised access" to the weapon, a claim that obviously was not true. (Or at least not all of the time.) This should have been a major red flag.

Then there is the mother, Marcee Gray, 43. She reportedly has a lengthy rap sheet including charges of "drug and domestic violence arrests." Neighbors reported that she regularly locked the children outside of the house at night, leaving them there screaming to be let in for hours. Child Protective Services had visited the home many times since the family moved there in 2022.

No summary of the shooter's family would be complete without checking in on the rest of Colt Gray's relatives. One woman claiming to be Colt's aunt quickly rushed to his defense on Facebook, warning people that there would be trouble if anyone spoke ill of her nephew. She suggested that she would be going "full throttle" on anyone accusing him of any wrongdoing.

The family sounds like there are Reddit/GoogTube Entitled ______ threads/videos about their craziness.

[Lando Lincoln]

Georgia School Shooter's Family is Really... Something

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/09/06/georgia-school-shooters-family-is-really-something-n3794127

The family sounds like there are Reddit/GoogTube Entitled ______ threads/videos about their craziness.

Nature AND nurture at play, I suspect. But heck, let’s just take my guns away.

[mystery-ak]

Ga. shooting suspect warned he will face life in prison, dad sobs uncontrollably as they face judge after school assault left 4 dead

https://nypost.com/2024/09/06/us-news/georgia-high-school-shooter-suspect-colt-gray-arrives-in-court-after-bloody-assault-killed-4/

[verga]

Georgia School Shooter's Family is Really... Something

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/09/06/georgia-school-shooters-family-is-really-something-n3794127

The family sounds like there are Reddit/GoogTube Entitled ______ threads/videos about their craziness.

Seems we might need a companion thread to Florida man.

[rustynail]

Hearing a lot of chatter on news shows about the need for 'safe storage'.

[GtHawk]

Hearing a lot of chatter on news shows about the need for 'safe storage'.

Seems to me most, if not all states already have laws on the books. Maybe if enough parents that give their mental defective offspring unfettered access to guns are charged with murder too there will be less carnage. Also maybe if the Feebs did their jobs instead of allowing mass shootings to further the dems/communists political agenda these mentally ill wouldn’t just be on their radar until they start killing.

[mountaineer]

Dad gave this 14 y/o (or perhaps still 13 y/o) kid a rifle after law enforcement already had had a chat with them about Junior's threats of violence. Just wth.

[mountaineer]

The Daily Mail reports the boy was "bullied" for being "queer." (Sorry for all the quotation marks).


Law enforcement sources speaking to CNN reveal that the Discord account belonging to the Winder, Ga. mass school shooting suspect allegedly had posts about plans for a mass shooting over grievances about the lack of trans acceptance.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1832106747928179188

[mountaineer]

One of the pro-violence, pro-trans t-shirts Andy Ngo shared in the above post also has been worn by Tim Walz's Lt. Gov.
Of course.

[Smokin Joe]

The Daily Mail reports the boy was "bullied" for being "queer." (Sorry for all the quotation marks).


Law enforcement sources speaking to CNN reveal that the Discord account belonging to the Winder, Ga. mass school shooting suspect allegedly had posts about plans for a mass shooting over grievances about the lack of trans acceptance.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1832106747928179188

Seriously?

"Trans" don't even accept themselves (as issued).

Can we start treating the mentally ill instead of catering to their delusions, now?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Daddy definitely needs prison time IMO.

[240B]

Daddy definitely needs prison time IMO.

Father is up for life in prison if found guilty.


Georgia school shooter Colt Gray and his father Colin in court - as family's dark past is revealed

DAILYMAIL.COM
By Emma James
6 September 2024

The father of Georgia school shooter Colt Gray sobbed and rocked back and forth during his first appearance at Barrow County Superior Court on Friday.

Colin Gray's hearing took place right after his 14-year-old son Colt learned that, as a minor, he won't face the death penalty for killing four people at Apalachee High School in Winder, outside Atlanta, on Wednesday.

The teen appeared in person in shackles, dressed in a green t-shirt and grey sweat pants. He kept his head down, with his hair covering his face, and spoke softly only to Judge Currie Mingledorff, replying ‘yes sir’ when asked to confirm his name.

Meanwhile his  father, Colin Gray, 54, cried as he appeared shortly after his son in the same courtroom, charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two of second degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.

Colin Gray shuffled in wearing a prison-issued striped shirt and tracksuit, in shackles like his son. He stated his name in a croaky voice, confirming his age, and that he was able to read and write.

(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13821309/colt-gray-georgia-school-shooter-court-appearance-father-colin.html

[240B]

Troubled confused kid from a troubled f-ed up family.

Troubling history of Colt Gray and his family REVEALED as his father is arrested and charged with second-degree murder

DAILYMAIL.COM
By Stephen M. Lepore
6 September 2024

The mother of 14-year-old Georgia school shooter Colt Gray has a lengthy rap sheet including domestic violence, drug use and fraud that led to her being sentenced to jail time last December.

Gray was arrested on Wednesday at Apalachee High School in Winder, minutes after authorities say he opened fire on students and teachers, killing four. Colt reportedly told police 'I did it' when read his Miranda rights.

His father, 54-year-old Colin Gray, is accused of buying his 14-year-old son Colt the AR-15-style rifle the boy used and was arrested Thursday on several counts of second degree murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty to children.

Public records show that Gray's mother, Marcee Gray, has a criminal record dating back to 2007 and spent time in jail as recently as this past April and was banned from contacting father Colin without a third party intermediary.

Marcee, 43, has a record across four Georgia counties and includes drug use, domestic violence and property damage, as well as civil claims of fraud.

(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13819865/Troubling-history-Colt-Gray-Georgia-school-shooting-suspects-family.html

[roamer_1]

Dad gave this 14 y/o (or perhaps still 13 y/o) kid a rifle after law enforcement already had had a chat with them about Junior's threats of violence. Just wth.

Careful what you wish for. The same could be said about me, but about 3 years earlier.
Guns freely available to me since a young age... Guns never locked up, and always loaded. Carrying weapons; guns, knives, and hatchets, freely my whole life.


Also more than once arrested for 'violence'... What many would call many times.
I've seen friends and family from both sides of chickenwire glass...

Be very, very careful what you wish for.

[mountaineer]

Be very, very careful what you wish for.

I guess the only thing I'm wishing for parents to have more sense. If your child proclaims he's going to kill his schoolmates, don't hand him the weapon and the ammunition.

[roamer_1]

I guess the only thing I'm wishing for parents to have more sense. If your child proclaims he's going to kill his schoolmates, don't hand him the weapon and the ammunition.

Alas! But wisdom is neither bought nor sold....

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Careful what you wish for. The same could be said about me, but about 3 years earlier.
Guns freely available to me since a young age... Guns never locked up, and always loaded. Carrying weapons; guns, knives, and hatchets, freely my whole life.


Also more than once arrested for 'violence'... What many would call many times.
I've seen friends and family from both sides of chickenwire glass...

Be very, very careful what you wish for.

Had you had taken that firearm and committed violence/murder then obviously things would be very different and if your parent provided you with the weaponry, then IMO they are culpable. Not a 2a issue IMO.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/NicholasKruge/status/1832218520458789117

[roamer_1]

Had you had taken that firearm and committed violence/murder then obviously things would be very different and if your parent provided you with the weaponry, then IMO they are culpable. Not a 2a issue IMO.

PROVIDED with? Supplied, perhaps. Provided bespeaks intent.

And the minute a secondary person is made frivolously 'culpable', you've a line to draw... What of an employee that knows his way around my stuff? What of the neighbor or acquaintance? Where does culpability end?

This is the same dumb bullshit to make a seller culpable.

No. The kid did it. Not anybody else.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

PROVIDED with? Supplied, perhaps. Provided bespeaks intent.

And the minute a secondary person is made frivolously 'culpable', you've a line to draw... What of an employee that knows his way around my stuff? What of the neighbor or acquaintance? Where does culpability end?

This is the same dumb bullshit to make a seller culpable.

No. The kid did it. Not anybody else.

I've thought about this quite a bit. Let's just say, if a kid was making violent threats, and was warned by police, and the parent still gave a gun as a gift. We can go into hypotheticals til the cows come home, but IMO this clearly crosses a line. This isn't like the parent took reasonable actions like locked up his guns and the kid still found a key etc.

[roamer_1]

I've thought about this quite a bit. Let's just say, if a kid was making violent threats, and was warned by police, and the parent still gave a gun as a gift. We can go into hypotheticals til the cows come home, but IMO this clearly crosses a line. This isn't like the parent took reasonable actions like locked up his guns and the kid still found a key etc.

Riiight. Lock up the guns, so they are perfectly useless.

There are four guns within reach here. The are all loaded.
Mostly for varmints - but serves the same purpose against any who would interfere with my liberty.

If the only way to possess guns without fear of being sued out of existence is to keep them unloaded and locked away in a safe, then you no longer have a gun at all, and have ceded your right to liberty and self defense for the illusion of safety.

Benjamin Franklin was right.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Riiight. Lock up the guns, so they are perfectly useless.

There are four guns within reach here. The are all loaded.
Mostly for varmints - but serves the same purpose against any who would interfere with my liberty.

If the only way to possess guns without fear of being sued out of existence is to keep them unloaded and locked away in a safe, then you no longer have a gun at all, and have ceded your right to liberty and self defense for the illusion of safety.

Benjamin Franklin was right.

You live with someone who has a reasonable chance of using them to commit violence? Keep them locked up.

If you left one lying around and someone grabbed one and used it to commit violence... we're talking hypotheticals here. Different circumstances. You really have no way to no it would get pilfered and used in a crime. Did you leave it on a seat cushion with the window down in your car? IMO that's negligence.

[roamer_1]

You live with someone who has a reasonable chance of using them to commit violence? Keep them locked up.

If you left one lying around and someone grabbed one and used it to commit violence... we're talking hypotheticals here. Different circumstances. You really have no way to no it would get pilfered and used in a crime. Did you leave it on a seat cushion with the window down in your car? IMO that's negligence.

And how am I supposed to know what is teenage bravado and real threat? What if I draw that line wrongly? That makes it my fault?

And btw... There's been a .357 in my always unlocked pickup that always has the keys in it, literally all my life. There's a .30/30 in the seat scabbard.

Y'all have no idea left of liberty.

[libertybele]

I guess the only thing I'm wishing for parents to have more sense. If your child proclaims he's going to kill his schoolmates, don't hand him the weapon and the ammunition.

I knew a firearms instructor who began to teach his children to handle a gun around the age of 3. He familiarized them with gun safety first and taught them to respect a weapon and then taught them to shoot a weapon. This was done over time and each progressed at a different rate. They also realized what would happen if they 'abused' that weapon and they knew full well that guns mishandled could kill.

It seems that this Dad gave his 14 year old a gun with no instruction which was absolutely irresponsible. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

And how am I supposed to know what is teenage bravado and real threat? What if I draw that line wrongly? That makes it my fault?

And btw... There's been a .357 in my always unlocked pickup that always has the keys in it, literally all my life. There's a .30/30 in the seat scabbard.

Y'all have no idea left of liberty.

Maybe in your area that a reasonable risk to take. Montana isn't an urban area though. Things are different elsewhere in the country.