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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #575 on: July 26, 2024, 02:20:03 am »
This thread fills Right_in_Virginia with ennui.

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #576 on: July 26, 2024, 02:34:09 am »
This thread fills Right_in_Virginia with ennui.



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ROFL!  You SOB!!  Made me look it up!    :beer:

I understand @Right_in_Virginia 's suggestion, there being many other news deserving comments and threads being completely ignored.

It's probably just me but personally, I find it amusing that while all this political history is being made daily, some are consistently glued to
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #577 on: July 26, 2024, 02:50:11 am »
Fair question @Hoodat   

This thread has run its course.  There's nothing new to say and is sliding into a predictable circular firing squad --- at the precise time this is a luxury we cannot afford.  The primary debates are over, the Republican ticket is set and it's time to move our focus and energy to winning in November. The democrats already have --- and they sure aren't arguing over who spilled the milk.

In just the past two weeks we have witnessed the shooting of our candidate and three rally attendees, one fatally, and the removal of the sitting President from his position while leaving his shell in the White House.  A woman who has never received one primary vote, ever, who is by all measurement a communist, is his replacement.  She ascends not by an act of the Congress or a single voter, but by the same shadow government that's been running this country into the ground for more than three years and orchestrated the incessant lawfare against Trump ---- and the shots fired from a rifle with the intent to kill him.

The democrat forces are now lining up ---- all media, news shows, the elected and unelected administrative state, Hollywood, domestic and foreign big money --- to simultaneously shred the Republican ticket and rewrite the hagiographies of the democrat standard bearers.  The democrats have the megaphones and power of the majority.  They are also crazed, soulless and power hungry beyond measure ---- and committed to their goal.

All they need to do now is get the revised democrat ticket to the point of practicable voter fraud.  We are the only ones who can stop them

We should learn from 2020 and resist the urge to fight about conservative bonafides, the meaning of binary, whether or not winners deserve revenge for past primaries, and just how virtuous not voting is in this election.  We can be a formidable force against the democrat forces, all of them ----- but only together.

My objective is a reminder:  We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately.   


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #578 on: July 26, 2024, 03:21:32 am »
Fair question @Hoodat   

This thread has run its course.  There's nothing new to say and is sliding into a predictable circular firing squad --- at the precise time this is a luxury we cannot afford.  The primary debates are over, the Republican ticket is set and it's time to move our focus and energy to winning in November. The democrats already have --- and they sure aren't arguing over who spilled the milk.

In just the past two weeks we have witnessed the shooting of our candidate and three rally attendees, one fatally, and the removal of the sitting President from his position while leaving his shell in the White House.  A woman who has never received one primary vote, ever, who is by all measurement a communist, is his replacement.  She ascends not by an act of the Congress or a single voter, but by the same shadow government that's been running this country into the ground for more than three years and orchestrated the incessant lawfare against Trump ---- and the shots fired from a rifle with the intent to kill him.

The democrat forces are now lining up ---- all media, news shows, the elected and unelected administrative state, Hollywood, domestic and foreign big money --- to simultaneously shred the Republican ticket and rewrite the hagiographies of the democrat standard bearers.  The democrats have the megaphones and power of the majority.  They are also crazed, soulless and power hungry beyond measure ---- and committed to their goal.

All they need to do now is get the revised democrat ticket to the point of practicable voter fraud.  We are the only ones who can stop them

We should learn from 2020 and resist the urge to fight about conservative bonafides, the meaning of binary, whether or not winners deserve revenge for past primaries, and just how virtuous not voting is in this election.  We can be a formidable force against the democrat forces, all of them ----- but only together.

My objective is a reminder:  We must all hang together, or assuredly we will all hang separately.   


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #579 on: July 26, 2024, 04:37:03 am »
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 Nor is 'result' binary since a very remote possibility exists that neither candidate of the two major parties will be declared the winner.


The only way I see neither of the two candidates for the two leading parties not getting elected and one of them becoming POTUS would be if there was an attack on the USA that would destroy enough of the country to delay indefinitely the election, or an attack that would destroy the USA, or both dying before the election, causing a reboot/reselection of two more candidates.

I don't foresee any of that happening, but to be honest, with a nonfunctional POTUS, all the above has increased percentage wise dramatically from a fraction of a percent to who knows how high a level.

We just had a joint effort by the Russians and Chinese with a fly over with military jets over Alaska, apparently a first for them to do together.  That probe IMHO is perhaps the first of bad things to come as long as Biden is POTUS.  The threat to this nation with this fool holding on to the grip of power has perhaps never been higher.

I think the USA is facing a threat greater than ever before.  And our elected officials in Washington are playing their typical role of full on abdication.  If I were Putin and Xi, I would give serious consideration to strike the USA.  Again, with leadership like we have, it might take days before our house is in order to be able to respond to an attack.

For 3.5 years, that thought has been resident in the back of my mind, but now, the threat is clearly elevated by many magnitudes.

The effort to conceal just how bad Biden has been, I consider it treason.  And at the top of the list of offenders is the VP, Sec of State, Sec of Defense, the director of the FBI and CIA.  I would imagine these folks met with the president more often than others, and they knew all along.  Plus, these are the primary folks that have something to do with the security of the USA, and all of them chose to betray this nation.

And yet the stinking corrupt media covered for all of them through this time.  They are supposed to be the watchdogs to protect our society, and now they are a propaganda arm of one party that is transitioning into a fascist/communist entity.  Ugggh!

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #580 on: July 26, 2024, 04:54:34 am »
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The existence of an irrelevant or non sequitur choice does not render the effective binary choice (A or B) false.

Megan is right of course, and I will say it even more boldly.  Zero = ZERO   all day long.  A third party candidate is not ruled out historically 100% of the time, for it did work for Lincoln.  But the odds today, with the way the Dems and the Republicans have rigged the elections to PREVENT 3rd party candidates having a remote chance of victory is Zero.  I am sorry, once you get more than three digits past the decimal point in politics, it might as well be Zero.

None of us will live long enough to witness a 3rd party candidate win the POTUS position.  Gone are the days a lanky self taught lawyer can become POTUS of the USA.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #581 on: July 26, 2024, 07:19:52 am »
Fair question @Hoodat   

This thread has run its course.  There's nothing new to say and is sliding into a predictable circular firing squad --- at the precise time this is a luxury we cannot afford.  The primary debates are over, the Republican ticket is set and it's time to move our focus and energy to winning in November. The democrats already have --- and they sure aren't arguing over who spilled the milk.

So you're now the arbiter of what's "old news" on this board and what we can and cannot argue about?  Sounds like something Hillary Clinton would say...

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In just the past two weeks we have witnessed the shooting of our candidate...

What's this "our candidate" business?  Trump may be YOUR candidate but he's certainly not mine.
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« Reply #582 on: July 26, 2024, 07:25:42 am »
So you're now the arbiter of what's "old news" on this board and what we can and cannot argue about?  Sounds like something Hillary Clinton would say...

What's this "our candidate" business?  Trump may be YOUR candidate but he's certainly not mine.


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #583 on: July 26, 2024, 09:35:05 am »
Megan is right of course, and I will say it even more boldly.  Zero = ZERO   all day long.  A third party candidate is not ruled out historically 100% of the time, for it did work for Lincoln.  But the odds today, with the way the Dems and the Republicans have rigged the elections to PREVENT 3rd party candidates having a remote chance of victory is Zero.  I am sorry, once you get more than three digits past the decimal point in politics, it might as well be Zero.

None of us will live long enough to witness a 3rd party candidate win the POTUS position.  Gone are the days a lanky self taught lawyer can become POTUS of the USA.

It doesn't matter what the odds are. It's  legitimate choice - On the ballot. Just like abstaining is a legitimate choice - If you vote down ballot and omit your choice on the top of the ticket, it does not render the ballot invalid - ergo, abstaining is legitimate... acceptable.

So no, it is never binary.

Which of course leads us to the 'lesser evil' argument, which is just as threadbare and  vapid.

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« Reply #584 on: July 26, 2024, 09:54:17 am »
It doesn't matter what the odds are. It's  legitimate choice - On the ballot. Just like abstaining is a legitimate choice - If you vote down ballot and omit your choice on the top of the ticket, it does not render the ballot invalid - ergo, abstaining is legitimate... acceptable.

So no, it is never binary.

Which of course leads us to the 'lesser evil' argument, which is just as threadbare and  vapid.

Biden says the 2024 race is binary. Millions don’t see it that way.
April 13, 2024

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The United States is unusual among democracies in giving voters two choices each election; many countries have multiple parties that can win a share of power. But as Americans’ rage and disaffection with the U.S. political system grows, voters are recoiling from those choices and putting a strain on the binary system.


Even a broken clock....you know....the thing...  /s
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #585 on: July 26, 2024, 10:02:45 am »
Biden says the 2024 race is binary. Millions don’t see it that way.
April 13, 2024

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/13/biden-trump-2024-binary-election/

Even a broken clock....you know....the thing...  /s

Right. So the liberals think... like you do.  :whistle:

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« Reply #586 on: July 26, 2024, 10:33:13 am »
This is the binary choice facing me at the moment:

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« Reply #587 on: July 26, 2024, 10:36:35 am »
This is the binary choice facing me at the moment:

— Continue following this thread, or
— Stop following this thread

I’m choosing the latter.

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« Reply #588 on: July 26, 2024, 10:40:11 am »
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« Reply #589 on: July 26, 2024, 10:45:00 am »
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When you go to “Show new replies to your posts”, there is a box you can check to unfollow a thread.

OR...one could simply use some free-will and/or self-control and use the scroll feature   :laugh:
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« Reply #590 on: July 26, 2024, 10:52:15 am »
OR...one could simply use some free-will and/or self-control and use the scroll feature   :laugh:

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« Reply #591 on: July 26, 2024, 11:02:04 am »
@Bigun

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I clicked on "Show new replies" but can't find the checkbox for the life of me. @Lando Lincoln
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« Reply #592 on: July 26, 2024, 11:04:32 am »
OR...one could simply use some free-will and/or self-control and use the scroll feature   :laugh:

That's what I've been doing and since I can't find the afore mentioned checkbox, I guess I have no other option.
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« Reply #593 on: July 26, 2024, 11:49:41 am »
Fair question @Hoodat   

This thread has run its course.  There's nothing new to say and is sliding into a predictable circular firing squad....

For this to be a circular firing squad, we would have to be on the same side.  We aren't.

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The primary debates are over, the Republican ticket is set and it's time to move our focus and energy to winning in November. The democrats already have --- and they sure aren't arguing over who spilled the milk.  In just the past two weeks we have witnessed the shooting of our candidate....

You see the problem with that statement, right?

One issue that has been raised here repeatedly, and one I've never seen addressed by any Trump supporter here, is the disconnect between Trump's statement that he wouldn't support other potential GOP nominees, and your claim that all Republicans should rally around Trump now because "we" are on the same side.  But Trump himself didn't even think all Republicans should be on the same side after the primary.   According to you, this is such a critical election because of everything happening in the country.  And yet...Trump was going to sit this out if he didn't win.

In light of that, why should any of us believe that Trump has the interests of Republicans, rather than his own personal interests, as his priority?

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« Reply #594 on: July 26, 2024, 12:46:07 pm »

One issue that has been raised here repeatedly, and one I've never seen addressed by any Trump supporter here, is the disconnect between Trump's statement that he wouldn't support other potential GOP nominees, and your claim that all Republicans should rally around Trump now because "we" are on the same side.  But Trump himself didn't even think all Republicans should be on the same side after the primary.   According to you, this is such a critical election because of everything happening in the country.  And yet...Trump was going to sit this out if he didn't win.

I have no problem with DJT refusing to support any Republican who repeated Democrat lies about DJT, I have no problem with DJT refusing to support any Republican who refused to question the result of the 2020 selection, I have no problem with DJT refusing to support any Republican who opposes him even now.

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« Reply #595 on: July 26, 2024, 02:06:22 pm »
I have no problem with DJT refusing to support any Republican who repeated Democrat lies about DJT,

So even if that Republican is unquestionably more conservative than Biden/Harris on policy issues, you're okay with Trump preferring to let the Democrats win anyway?

Trump repeated all sorts of lies about various Republicans who nevertheless supported him in the general election.   They did so  not because they liked him, but because they decided the future of the country was more important than their personal feelings.

The same obviously cannot be said about Trump.  His personal feelings are more important than the country.

Which is one of the reasons many lifelong Republicans won't vote for him in November.




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« Reply #596 on: July 26, 2024, 02:09:35 pm »
So even if that Republican is unquestionably more conservative than Biden/Harris on policy issues, you're okay with Trump preferring to let the Democrats win anyway?

Trump repeated all sorts of lies about various Republicans who nevertheless supported him in the general election.   They did so  not because they liked him, but because they decided the future of the country was more important than their personal feelings.

The same obviously cannot be said about Trump. His personal feelings are more important than the country.

Which is one of the reasons many lifelong Republicans won't vote for him in November.

Total BS! (The bolded part.)
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« Reply #597 on: July 26, 2024, 02:33:04 pm »
   I'd rather my nuts be numb than attached to an Orange Buffoon's butt.   :beer:

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #598 on: July 26, 2024, 02:51:34 pm »
Total BS! (The bolded part.)
@Maj. Bill Martin Absolute B.S!  One thing I am certain of with all that Trump has been through and the actions he has displayed and speeches he has given; he is first and foremost an American patriot.

The man took a bullet for each and every one of us.  It is because of his competency that the left wants him gone, not his incompetency.

He came from a life of riches and wealth and has given up a life of luxuries. In addition to being shot at he has endured bogus collusion accusations, impeachments, raids on his home and numerous trials. He could have easily bowed out. He hasn't.

He is NOT out for himself.  That I am absolutely positive of.

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« Reply #599 on: July 26, 2024, 04:00:51 pm »
Total BS! (The bolded part.)

So why wouldn't he have supported a conservative Republican against a Democrat just because they didn't say nice things about him?