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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2024, 07:05:09 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2024, 07:09:25 pm »
A fan of Validmar Putin.
Not really. No evidence he's a fan. And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:
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... Vance has raised doubt that the U.S. can maintain military support to Ukraine, saying that the U.S. does not build enough munitions to sustain the level of assistance funneled to Kyiv.

And he’s called for engaging with Russian President Vladimir Putin to deliver for “American interests.”

“I’ve never once argued that Putin is a kind and friendly person. I’ve argued that he’s a person with distinct interests, and the United States has to respond to that person with distinct interests,” Vance said at the Munich Security Conference.

“But the fact that he’s a bad guy does not mean we can’t engage in basic diplomacy and prioritizing America’s interests. There are a lot of bad guys all over the world, and I’m much more interested in some of the problems in East Asia right now than I am in Europe.”  ...
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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2024, 07:11:05 pm »
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« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2024, 07:16:49 pm »
Not really. No evidence he's a fan. And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:The Hill

I agree

I see nothing in his background or any past statements that suggests he admires Vladimir Putin

The Ukraine issue will be something that Trump will have to deal with should  he be elected. He won’t have the luxury of ignoring it as president. And it’ll probably be to negotiate another one of his “great deals” that would benefit Russia in some way at the expense of Ukraine

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« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2024, 07:22:03 pm »
Not really. No evidence he's a fan. And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:The Hill


I have seen a lot of his posts where he praises Putin
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2024, 07:23:04 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2024, 07:26:36 pm »
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I had no idea that Vivek and JD Vance's wife Usha Chilukuri were classmates at Yale. Vivek and JD are such great friends JD named one his his children Vivek.


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« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2024, 07:26:50 pm »
Linzey Graham speaks with forked tongue when it comes to Vance, apparently.

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Lindsey Graham is a liar. No one lobbied harder against JD Vance than he did, and in the sleaziest, most vicious way. He was doing it this morning. This is why everyone hates Washington, because people like Lindsey Graham are happy to lie right to your face, smiling as they plot your destruction. It’s disgusting.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2024, 07:31:34 pm »
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2024, 08:20:37 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2024, 08:21:20 pm »
New blood is welcome.  However, Trump encountered great difficulty owing to his lack of government experience.  He didn't know how DC worked, and he got rolled.  As it turns out, a private sector career is not such a boon.

JD Vance is little known, and that presents another challenge: defining him before the democrats perform their hatchet job.
Trump's problems were not his lack of government experience.  That is a plus especially when experience comes from the private sector where financial integrity is demanded to succeed.

Government backgrounds defines success as extracting taxes from citizens and grow the government without sound economic footing by government spending.

He suffered from listening to advisors who were picking a VP who had government experience but was a dilly/dally guy, and picking department heads who were even weaker.  As well as GOP congressional leadership who simply did not back him adequately and grew government excessively.

He did not 'get rolled'.

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2024, 08:26:18 pm »
Arriving at the convention.....


I'm not all warm and fuzzy with his wife being friends with Vivek! Nor her affiliation with Gates.  That is very troubling. Worse case scenario now is Trump steps down and Vance becomes president and names Vivek as his VP.  :thud:

Here I was elated that Trump didn't select Rubio or Vivek -- that didn't last long.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2024, 08:32:06 pm »
I'm not all warm and fuzzy with his wife being friends with Vivek! Nor her affiliation with Gates.  That is very troubling. Worse case scenario now is Trump steps down and Vance becomes president and names Vivek as his VP.  :thud:

Here I was elated that Trump didn't select Rubio or Vivek -- that didn't last long.

I honestly have no response to this. 

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« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2024, 08:38:34 pm »
I honestly have no response to this.

@Right_in_Virginia  I just hope that this time, Trump's pick turns out to be an excellent choice.

I still intend to cast my vote for him and my reasons for doing so haven't changed.  :patriot:
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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2024, 08:43:13 pm »
J. D. Vance Is Trump’s Veep Pick

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Donald Trump has picked Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his official Vice Presidential running mate.

    After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio,” Trump said. The former president highlighted Mr. Vance’s record as a Marine, a graduate of Yale Law School, and a bestselling author.

    Mr. Vance, at just 39 years old, will be the youngest vice presidential nominee of a major political party since President Nixon ran with President Eisenhower in 1952. The Ohio senator was elected in just 2022, making him a candidate with some of the least experience in modern history.

    He has made his mark as an “anti-woke” warrior in the upper chamber, and has made it clear that American foreign policy must be geared much more toward the interests of the American middle class rather than the more obscure goals of protecting democracy and upholding international defense obligations.

    Mr. Vance’s stances on foreign policy issues — including saying that America should play a small, if not nonexistent, role in helping Ukraine in their war with Russia — does not frighten some of the more establishment members of his party.

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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2024, 08:45:06 pm »
No kidding!!  I've committed suicide three times already.  It's that damn programming!   And someone needs to stop all those voices in my head telling me to kill kill kill!
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2024, 09:13:04 pm »

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1813016006333235375

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2024, 09:22:47 pm »
I believe that if J. D. becomes VP, the Republican governor names his replacement.

Except DeWine is Republican in name only.
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2024, 09:24:37 pm »
Stupid stupid stupid move.  Vance brings zero to the table.  Zilch.  Nada.

Yeah, I'm underwhelmed too.
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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2024, 09:27:36 pm »
With this Russian-loving a**hole on this ticket, this seals the deal that I'm not voting for Trump. Any thoughts of me voting for Trump just went out of the window. I liked it when the GOP hated Russia.

Same here.  Trump might as well selected Tucker Carlson.
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2024, 09:31:53 pm »

https://twitter.com/SOFABiscuitEatr/status/1812982107469480446


Actually, I find it comforting that neither Trump or Vance want to continue to hand over billions more to Ukraine.

That does NOT mean that they like Putin.  Nor does it mean that they like China; that's ridiculous actually. 
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« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2024, 09:37:49 pm »
As well as GOP congressional leadership who simply did not back him adequately and grew government excessively.


Nope

Not true at all. Trump sided with Democrats when it came to spending over republicans


Here’s one sample of how Trump tried  to pay back one particular Republican who at least tried to hold Congress accountable for the excessive spending on Covid

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/27/donald-trump-throw-kentucky-rep-thomas-massie-out-gop/2924610001/

And another

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-bigger-stimulus-package-republicans-democrats-congress-amount-more-checks-2020-10?amp


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« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2024, 09:39:50 pm »
And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:

Just like Neville Chamberlain talked to Hitler?
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« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2024, 09:43:21 pm »

I have seen a lot of his posts where he praises Putin

He's a "land for peace" idiot too.

Republican senator says Ukraine should cede land and cut a deal with Putin to end the war

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jd-vance-says-ukraine-cede-land-cut-deal-putin-end-war-rcna129195

And what kind of deal can you cut with the dictator who invaded your country and slaughtered your citizens?
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« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2024, 09:48:09 pm »
Not really. No evidence he's a fan. And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:The Hill

Well that "bad guy" is the very reason NATO exists.

If we can't manufacture enough munitions to supply Ukraine then we need to beef it up dramatically. That's just one war. We are not prepared if that's the case.

It is very short sighted to not arm a friend that is willing to fight and die for their country stopping the Russian monster. By letting Russia take what it wants it is only increases the chances of American blood being spilt later on. It's like saying we'll let the fire burn until it gets to our door. When it gets to your door it is too late.

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« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2024, 09:50:54 pm »
Didn't NATO exist long before Putin came along?
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« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2024, 09:57:30 pm »
Didn't NATO exist long before Putin came along?

NATO was created to contain Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin is the current head of that snake.

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« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2024, 10:04:39 pm »
NATO was created to contain Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin is the current head of that snake.

NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

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« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2024, 10:07:04 pm »
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

NATO would have no one to defend against without Russia. Russia is a longtime aggressor consuming its neighbors.

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« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2024, 10:09:11 pm »
NATO would have no one to defend against without Russia. Russia is a longtime aggressor consuming its neighbors.

Russia was a HUGE trading partner of the United States at one point.
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« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2024, 10:12:58 pm »
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

Newsflash: the USSR never went away, it just took a nap. Russia under Putin is the USSR with trade. That's the only difference and sanctions wiped that out. It's the same old Soviet Empire, same Red Army, same national anthem, same imperial attitude.

And it needs to be destroyed.
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« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2024, 10:15:51 pm »
Newsflash: the USSR never went away, it just took a nap. Russia under Putin is the USSR with trade. That's the only difference and sanctions wiped that out. It's the same old Soviet Empire, same Red Army, same national anthem, same imperial attitude.

And it needs to be destroyed.

Russia is not, and never was, the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2024, 10:39:28 pm »
Trump should have asked YOU instead of his professional advisors.  yeah, right
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Let's review:

Biden received 74 more electoral votes in 2020 than did Trump.  In order to reverse that, Trump needs to win States in 2024 that he lost in 2020.  The selection of JD Vance does not help make that happen.  Trump has Ohio's electoral votes without Vance.

If Trump flips Georgia, Nevada, and Virginia, he ends up 2 electoral votes ahead of Biden.

Trump has a good chance of taking Georgia and Nevada.  But with someone like Glenn Younkin on the ticket, he could take Virginia as well.  Election over.  All the cheating in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona won't matter.

The second thing to consider:  When Trump takes office, Vance will have to resign his seat.  This means a GOP vacancy at the most critical time of Trump's term - the first 100 days.  And that seat will remain vacant until the RINO governor chooses a RINO to replace Vance.  But with Younkin, we lose no Senate seat.  Instead, we put Winston Sears in the Governor's mansion, virtually ensuring her election in 2025.

I like Vance.  But he is a stupid stupid stupid pick from a political standpoint.
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« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2024, 10:41:36 pm »
Actually, I find it comforting that neither Trump or Vance want to continue to hand over billions more to Ukraine.

That does NOT mean that they like Putin.  Nor does it mean that they like China; that's ridiculous actually.


So you want Putin to win?
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« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2024, 10:42:35 pm »
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

Russia was the heart of the Soviet Union.  It's a distinction without a difference.  Reagan even knew that:


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« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2024, 10:45:48 pm »
Actually, I find it comforting that neither Trump or Vance want to continue to hand over billions more to Ukraine.

Continue?  Follow the money.  It is ending up in the pockets of the State Department, the Defense Department, other European countries, US AID, etc.
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« Reply #91 on: July 15, 2024, 10:49:59 pm »
Another red flag:



https://twitter.com/GavinBade/status/1812950510372012246


Trump has also supported weakening the US dollar

Good news for US consumers which will help make imports more expensive
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« Reply #93 on: July 15, 2024, 10:52:09 pm »
Some folks seem to forget that despite not being a member of NATO, Ukraine sent troops to Afghanistan.  So @$%#! anyone who "doesn't really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other," as Vance said.

Oh, and he said that right before the invasion.  Not costing us a penny at that point.  He just...didn't care.

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« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2024, 10:57:17 pm »
(First vid with Trump and JD)

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« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2024, 11:03:37 pm »
Just a reminder, populism is not conservatism.



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« Reply #99 on: July 15, 2024, 11:26:21 pm »
This...

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Vance is bad on:
- The economy, where he's bigger-government than most Democrats - supposedly the "big government intervention" party!
- Foreign policy, where he's not "America First," he's "Allies last."

He is good at:
- Changing his opinions to gain more power. 1/

His propensity for sucking up to Trump will more than make up the difference.
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