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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2024, 09:37:49 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 15, 2024, 08:21:20 pm
As well as GOP congressional leadership who simply did not back him adequately and grew government excessively.


Nope

Not true at all. Trump sided with Democrats when it came to spending over republicans


Here’s one sample of how Trump tried  to pay back one particular Republican who at least tried to hold Congress accountable for the excessive spending on Covid

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/27/donald-trump-throw-kentucky-rep-thomas-massie-out-gop/2924610001/

And another

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-bigger-stimulus-package-republicans-democrats-congress-amount-more-checks-2020-10?amp


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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2024, 09:39:50 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 15, 2024, 07:09:25 pm
And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:

Just like Neville Chamberlain talked to Hitler?
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2024, 09:43:21 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on July 15, 2024, 07:22:03 pm

I have seen a lot of his posts where he praises Putin

He's a "land for peace" idiot too.

Republican senator says Ukraine should cede land and cut a deal with Putin to end the war

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jd-vance-says-ukraine-cede-land-cut-deal-putin-end-war-rcna129195

And what kind of deal can you cut with the dictator who invaded your country and slaughtered your citizens?
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2024, 09:48:09 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 15, 2024, 07:09:25 pm
Not really. No evidence he's a fan. And, unlike Biden, he thinks it might help the US to actually talk to Putin instead of treating him and his country like they don't exist:The Hill

Well that "bad guy" is the very reason NATO exists.

If we can't manufacture enough munitions to supply Ukraine then we need to beef it up dramatically. That's just one war. We are not prepared if that's the case.

It is very short sighted to not arm a friend that is willing to fight and die for their country stopping the Russian monster. By letting Russia take what it wants it is only increases the chances of American blood being spilt later on. It's like saying we'll let the fire burn until it gets to our door. When it gets to your door it is too late.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2024, 09:50:54 pm »
Didn't NATO exist long before Putin came along?
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2024, 09:57:30 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 15, 2024, 09:50:54 pm
Didn't NATO exist long before Putin came along?

NATO was created to contain Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin is the current head of that snake.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2024, 10:04:39 pm »
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NATO was created to contain Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin is the current head of that snake.

NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2024, 10:07:04 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 15, 2024, 10:04:39 pm
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

NATO would have no one to defend against without Russia. Russia is a longtime aggressor consuming its neighbors.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2024, 10:09:11 pm »
Quote from: DB on July 15, 2024, 10:07:04 pm
NATO would have no one to defend against without Russia. Russia is a longtime aggressor consuming its neighbors.

Russia was a HUGE trading partner of the United States at one point.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2024, 10:12:58 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 15, 2024, 10:04:39 pm
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

Newsflash: the USSR never went away, it just took a nap. Russia under Putin is the USSR with trade. That's the only difference and sanctions wiped that out. It's the same old Soviet Empire, same Red Army, same national anthem, same imperial attitude.

And it needs to be destroyed.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2024, 10:15:51 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on July 15, 2024, 10:12:58 pm
Newsflash: the USSR never went away, it just took a nap. Russia under Putin is the USSR with trade. That's the only difference and sanctions wiped that out. It's the same old Soviet Empire, same Red Army, same national anthem, same imperial attitude.

And it needs to be destroyed.

Russia is not, and never was, the Soviet Union.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2024, 10:39:28 pm »
Quote from: ChemEngrMBA on July 15, 2024, 06:28:21 pm
Trump should have asked YOU instead of his professional advisors.  yeah, right
Let's review:
1.  Member of Congress.
2.  Veteran.
3.  Brilliant scholar.
4.  Youthful.
5.  Not a Democrat, homosexual, transgender, or other Leftist wacko.

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Let's review:

Biden received 74 more electoral votes in 2020 than did Trump.  In order to reverse that, Trump needs to win States in 2024 that he lost in 2020.  The selection of JD Vance does not help make that happen.  Trump has Ohio's electoral votes without Vance.

If Trump flips Georgia, Nevada, and Virginia, he ends up 2 electoral votes ahead of Biden.

Trump has a good chance of taking Georgia and Nevada.  But with someone like Glenn Younkin on the ticket, he could take Virginia as well.  Election over.  All the cheating in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona won't matter.

The second thing to consider:  When Trump takes office, Vance will have to resign his seat.  This means a GOP vacancy at the most critical time of Trump's term - the first 100 days.  And that seat will remain vacant until the RINO governor chooses a RINO to replace Vance.  But with Younkin, we lose no Senate seat.  Instead, we put Winston Sears in the Governor's mansion, virtually ensuring her election in 2025.

I like Vance.  But he is a stupid stupid stupid pick from a political standpoint.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2024, 10:41:36 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 15, 2024, 09:31:53 pm
Actually, I find it comforting that neither Trump or Vance want to continue to hand over billions more to Ukraine.

That does NOT mean that they like Putin.  Nor does it mean that they like China; that's ridiculous actually.


So you want Putin to win?
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2024, 10:42:35 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 15, 2024, 10:04:39 pm
NATO was created to contain the Soviet Union which no longer exists. Russia alone is not the Soviet Union.

Russia was the heart of the Soviet Union.  It's a distinction without a difference.  Reagan even knew that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBow1ToJBFE
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« Reply #89 on: July 15, 2024, 10:43:02 pm »
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2024, 10:45:48 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 15, 2024, 09:31:53 pm
Actually, I find it comforting that neither Trump or Vance want to continue to hand over billions more to Ukraine.

Continue?  Follow the money.  It is ending up in the pockets of the State Department, the Defense Department, other European countries, US AID, etc.
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Re: Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president
« Reply #91 on: July 15, 2024, 10:49:59 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on July 15, 2024, 10:43:02 pm
Another red flag:



https://twitter.com/GavinBade/status/1812950510372012246

Trump has also supported weakening the US dollar

Good news for US consumers which will help make imports more expensive
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« Reply #92 on: July 15, 2024, 10:51:11 pm »
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« Reply #93 on: July 15, 2024, 10:52:09 pm »
Some folks seem to forget that despite not being a member of NATO, Ukraine sent troops to Afghanistan.  So @$%#! anyone who "doesn't really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other," as Vance said.

Oh, and he said that right before the invasion.  Not costing us a penny at that point.  He just...didn't care.
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« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2024, 10:57:17 pm »
(First vid with Trump and JD)

"🚨Lee Greenwood gives an incredible introduction to Donald Trump as he enters the RNC Convention 🇺🇸"


https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1813034762036256891




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« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2024, 10:59:01 pm »
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« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2024, 11:03:37 pm »
Just a reminder, populism is not conservatism.



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« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2024, 11:14:15 pm »
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« Reply #99 on: July 15, 2024, 11:26:21 pm »
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Vance is bad on:
- The economy, where he's bigger-government than most Democrats - supposedly the "big government intervention" party!
- Foreign policy, where he's not "America First," he's "Allies last."

He is good at:
- Changing his opinions to gain more power. 1/

His propensity for sucking up to Trump will more than make up the difference.
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