Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]

[mystery-ak]

Sen. Barrasso says Secret Service meeting with lawmakers was ‘A 100% cover-your-a-- briefing’

Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., tells Fox News that the Secret Service’s meeting with Senate lawmakers on Wednesday was a “100% cover-your-a—briefing” after the assassination attempt on former President Trump last Saturday.

Barrasso’s office said “no one has taken responsibility” despite the gunman having been “identified as being suspicious one hour before the shooting.”

“He had a range finder and a backpack. The Secret Service lost sight of him. No one has taken responsibility. No one has been held responsible. Someone has died. The President was almost killed. The head of the Secret Service needs to go,” Barrasso said, referring to USSS Director Kimberly Cheatle.

Two people were injured and another attendee was killed in the assassination attempt on Trump. In the days since, the Secret Service has faced intense scrutiny for the security lapse, with calls mounting for Cheatle to resign.
Posted by Bradford Betz

[mystery-ak]

Iconic Secret Service sniper team photo doesn’t show agents who took down would-be assassin



The widely circulated photograph showing a pair of U.S. Secret Service counter snipers on a rooftop overlooking Saturday’s Trump rally does not show the agents who neutralized the threat, authorities said.

There were four counter-sniper teams overlooking the event, Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told Fox News Digital, two from the USSS and two local teams.

The photo shows the “second team,” he said, which did not fire the fatal shot.

The Secret Service took down Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old would-be assassin, after he killed a spectator and critically wounded two others minutes after former President Donald Trump took the stage. The Republican candidate was struck in the ear and went to a nearby hospital for treatment.

A local marksman also engaged the suspect but did not fire the fatal shot, Butler County officials have confirmed.

Butler Country District Attorney Richard Goldinger told Fox News that officer had been placed on a routine administrative leave, standard procedure for all police-involved shootings.

A federal law enforcement source also confirmed that there was a local tactical team was stationed in a building on the property where the sniper fired from, however it was unclear whether it was the same building. There are several structures on the lot, which was outside the Secret Service’s secure perimeter.

This is a report by Fox News Digital's Michael Ruiz. Fox News’ CB Cotton and Matt Finn contributed to this report.
Posted by Bradford Betz

[mystery-ak]

DHS opens investigation into Secret Service’s counter sniper team

 The Department of Homeland Security opened a second investigation into the U.S. Secret Service for its handling of providing security for former President Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, with the latest focusing on the counter sniper team.

The office of Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari, who was appointed as the inspector general by former President Trump in 2019, opened the investigation.

The investigation was recently listed on the Office of Inspector General’s website page that lists ongoing projects.

The most recent investigation is “to determine the extent to which the [Secret Service] Counter Sniper Team is prepared to respond to threats at events attended by designated protectees.”

Additional projects listed on the page include an evaluation of the Secret Service’s process for securing Trump’s July 13, 2014 campaign event.

Fox News’ David Spunt contributed to this report.
Posted by Greg Wehner

[goatprairie]

I read the article.  Why would they call?  He was an adult.  Had he been missing for days?  Did his father notice that his AR 15 was missing?  His parents were counselors, did they notice something about his behavior that had them concerned?  Lots of unanswered questions.

We can't lose sight of the incompetency of the SS.  I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job.

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

[mountaineer]

1] that is my question...the bullet that whizzed past Trump went where?

Exactly. It's the job of investigators to account for every round - where it came from, where it went.

[Smokin Joe]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

I thought Hinckley was just trying to get a date with Jodie Foster.

As for incompetency, in an environment with more than enough malice sloshing around, don't you think incompetence could, at the very least, be an unconscious manifestation of that violence? It doesn't take much to go the full passive aggressive route and say that the malice wasn't malice, it was just incompetence.

They had one job...

[Elderberry]

Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🚨🇺🇸NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS TRUMP DODGED PERFECTLY AIMED SHOT

Close-up footage reveals Thomas Crooks' shot was perfectly centered on Trump's head.

Trump’s 'head tilt' to look at a screen graphic and leaning into the microphone saved his life.

The footage was captured just seconds before the shot.

Source: @C3PMeme

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1813626264957440282

[Cyber Liberty]

Since Saturday night, I've moved from LIHOP to MIHOP.

[DB]

I thought Hinckley was just trying to get a date with Jodie Foster.

As for incompetency, in an environment with more than enough malice sloshing around, don't you think incompetence could, at the very least, be an unconscious manifestation of that violence? It doesn't take much to go the full passive aggressive route and say that the malice wasn't malice, it was just incompetence.

They had one job...

They had him flagged as a potential threat more than an hour before he fired:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-fbi-investigation-attempted-assassination-july-17

No one would likely be dead had they acted. Seems pretty shocking, if not impossible, that so many things had to work just right for the shooter to have his opportunity with him being out in the open with so many bright red flags detected by so many people.

[libertybele]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

Gross incompetency- obviously but one must also consider the fact that Trump's SS detail was thinned down and new hires were put in place one day before the event which isn't enough time to prepare and train for the event. Some of the SS detail that was thinned down went to protect Jill -- how convenient.

So -- was it gross incompetency all the way around or are the 'holes' that were purposefully constructed to try to take Trump out?

The incompetency will get kicked down the road and nothing further will be investigated.  An independent investigation needs to happen, but no worries, we have the same FBI that investigated Mar a Lago investigating the attempted assassination.

Dan Bongino who worked for the SS comments:
@dbongino

I want to repeat, and can absolutely confirm, the USSS Director Kim Cheatle has repeatedly turned down requests for a larger security footprint around President Trump. Despite knowing the threat level is catastrophic.
Resign tonight.
Dan Bongino
@dbongino
USSS Director Kim Cheatle must resign. She was warned about this, and she ignored the warnings.

[libertybele]

Conflicting Accounts Emerge About Security at Trump Rally

Federal and local officials differed over where a sniper team was when a gunman fired at former President Donald J. Trump, adding to questions about the Secret Service response.


New details and conflicting reports emerged on Tuesday about the security at the campaign rally where former President Donald J. Trump was shot. The Secret Service and local police agencies gave contradictory accounts, and leaders in Washington intensified their scrutiny of the failures in Mr. Trump’s protection — even after the Secret Service had beefed up security because of a potential Iranian assassination plot..........................

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/16/us/trump-shooting-investigation

[libertybele]

They had him flagged as a potential threat more than an hour before he fired:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-fbi-investigation-attempted-assassination-july-17

No one would likely be dead had they acted. Seems pretty shocking, if not impossible, that so many things had to work just right for the shooter to have his opportunity with him being out in the open with so many bright red flags detected by so many people.

Exactly!

[mountaineer]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING - PunchBowl is reporting: Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots
—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence
4:15 PM · Jul 17, 2024

[Bigun]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING - PunchBowl is reporting: Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots
—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence
4:15 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Translation; the kid was working with a pro.

[mountaineer]

Russian prisoner Mark Fogel's 95-year-old mother was at the Butler rally to meet with Trump. He planned to talk about Fogel's detention (remember, Biden got B. Griner out of Russia for the same offense, but has ignored Fogel). Please watch entire video.


Vicki Iseman was assisting 95-year-old Malphine Fogel, who was supposed to take the stage with Trump to advocate for the release of her son from a Russian prison. She recounts the entire story in this tearful interview:

https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1813687572977316237

[mountaineer]

Re the parents being concerned when they didn't know where their adult son was:

Leland Vittert
@LelandVittert
A senior congressional source directly briefed on the #TrumpAssasinationAttempt  investigation tells @NewsNation that Thomas Matthew Crooks had a "major depressive disorder diagnosis" and that the USSS had identified him 60 mins before the shooting as a person of interest.
5:37 PM · Jul 17, 2024

[deb]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1813610648418545940

It was God’s intervention, plain and simple.

[mountaineer]

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
You know what sounds like a conspiracy theory?
That this 20 year old with zero bomb or special forces experience was able to build a bomb with a remote detonator, sneak a rifle past Secret Service, gain access to a rooftop across from the president and shoot him with ZERO help.
10:43 AM · Jul 17, 2024

The Yootopian
@TheYootopian
It is a little crazy that he found the ONE building that was not secured… and figured out how to get on the roof…
All without knowing anything about the @SecretService’s protection plan and positioning.
Can someone really be this lucky?
Or is the Secret Service just that inept?
10:46 AM · Jul 17, 2024
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Initial reports said he wasn't a very good student at all. Then we heard he went to a tech school.
On tonight's Pittsburgh news, it was reported that he went to the tech school for two years during high school to study computers and that he was very bright. They said he was planning to start college in the fall - two years after graduating from high school.
Make of that what you will. It's perplexing.

[Lando Lincoln]

https://x.com/wildbarestepf/status/1812349004530983364

[Right_in_Virginia]

"🚨🇺🇸NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS TRUMP DODGED PERFECTLY AIMED SHOT

Close-up footage reveals Thomas Crooks' shot was perfectly centered on Trump's head.

Trump’s 'head tilt' to look at a screen graphic and leaning into the microphone saved his life.  The footage was captured just seconds before the shot."

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1813626264957440282

[libertybele]

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
You know what sounds like a conspiracy theory?
That this 20 year old with zero bomb or special forces experience was able to build a bomb with a remote detonator, sneak a rifle past Secret Service, gain access to a rooftop across from the president and shoot him with ZERO help.
10:43 AM · Jul 17, 2024

The Yootopian
@TheYootopian
It is a little crazy that he found the ONE building that was not secured… and figured out how to get on the roof…
All without knowing anything about the @SecretService’s protection plan and positioning.
Can someone really be this lucky?
Or is the Secret Service just that inept?
10:46 AM · Jul 17, 2024
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Initial reports said he wasn't a very good student at all. Then we heard he went to a tech school.
On tonight's Pittsburgh news, it was reported that he went to the tech school for two years during high school to study computers and that he was very bright. They said he was planning to start college in the fall - two years after graduating from high school.
Make of that what you will. It's perplexing.

Nothing more than coincidences.   

[roamer_1]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

With the exception of encrypted comms found on the boy - That needs to be better defined .... Comms *at all* implies conspiracy - But with that exception in the facts known at this time, I will stand with you.

[DB]

With the exception of encrypted comms found on the boy - That needs to be better defined .... Comms *at all* implies conspiracy - But with that exception in the facts known at this time, I will stand with you.

"Signal" is an encryption app for private secure texting. It is pier to pier so your messages are not on a server somewhere. Typically each end point is configured so that the message self-deletes after a set amount of time.

[roamer_1]

"Signal" is an encryption app for private secure texting. It is pier to pier so your messages are not on a server somewhere. Typically each end point is configured so that the message self-deletes after a set amount of time.

So not necessarily 'secure, encrypted comms'... True, but exaggerated.

[Bigun]

https://x.com/wildbarestepf/status/1812349004530983364