Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]

[Bigun]

His idiot is in full display.

Absolutely! Someone should inform the assclown that his fifteen minutes have expired!

[rustynail]

New Evidence Points To Multiple Shooters In Trump Assassination (could be b.s.)

Stunning new forensic analysis if the Trump Assassination attempt indicates a total of eleven shots fired from three separate weapons, obliterating the “lone gunman” theory of the Trump Assassination.

https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/new-evidence-points-to-multiple-shooters

[mystery-ak]

Exclusive — Butler Township Commissioner: Local Police Were ‘Strictly’ Tasked with Traffic Control

Hannah Knudsen 17 Jul 2024

The local police officer who was hoisted up to the edge of the roof and spotted former President Donald Trump’s would-be assassin is not to blame for the carnage that unfolded, Butler Township Commissioner Edward Natali said during an appearance on Breitbart News Daily, explaining that the mainstream media are not accurately telling the story of what actually happened.

The news has been inundated with stories of an unnamed local police officer who encountered the Thomas Crooks prior to the shooting, largely placing blame on that officer. But Natali said that is not fair, nor is the story accurate.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/17/exclusive-butler-township-commissioner-local-police-were-strictly-tasked-traffic-control/

[Lando Lincoln]

New Evidence Points To Multiple Shooters In Trump Assassination (could be b.s.)

Stunning new forensic analysis if the Trump Assassination attempt indicates a total of eleven shots fired from three separate weapons, obliterating the “lone gunman” theory of the Trump Assassination.

https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/new-evidence-points-to-multiple-shooters

BS in my view. Totally. These “articles” are part of the problem.

[mystery-ak]

Exclusive – Butler Township Commissioner: Officer Who Encountered Would-Be Assassin ‘Did Not Retreat’, Not to Blame

The local police officer who encountered the would-be assassin of former President Donald Trump “did not retreat” and tried to grab his gun but fell backwards, injuring himself in the process. The officer is now in “pretty bad” mental shape, Butler Township Commissioner Edward Natali said, explaining that media outlets are wrongly blaming local officers for what happened Saturday evening in Butler, Pennsylvania.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/17/exclusive-butler-township-commissioner-officer-who-encountered-would-be-assassin-did-not-retreat-not-to-blame/

[libertybele]

Fox is reporting that Crook's parents called police "hours" before the shooting.

I read the article.  Why would they call?  He was an adult.  Had he been missing for days?  Did his father notice that his AR 15 was missing?  His parents were counselors, did they notice something about his behavior that had them concerned?  Lots of unanswered questions.

We can't lose sight of the incompetency of the SS.  I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job.

[Sighlass]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1813578617353637934

What ? No, the bullet would just slice through like through butter thin tissue. Another person that hasn't a clue on ballistics.

[bigheadfred]

That is certainly the way I see it. @Right_in_Virginia

Why is there a typo in this thread title? Glitch in the matrix? Is this just on my device?

[Lando Lincoln]

Why is there a typo in this thread title? Glitch in the matrix? Is this just on my device?

It’s intermittent. Weird.

[Sighlass]

Why is there a typo in this thread title? Glitch in the matrix? Is this just on my device?

Lol, My mind just corrected it and I never noticed until you pointed it out.

[corbe]

   Micheal Steele was a DEI hire before there was DEI.

[PeteS in CA]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1813578617353637934

Does Steele know enough about rifle caliber bullets to know that 5.56 mm is actually a fairly small caliber? That's just the start of his ignorance, but he's made Never-Trumpism an essential part of his identity.

I have to admit appreciating the spectacle of Trump-Haters self-destructing by the means of their own hatefulness.

[Bigun]

   Micheal Steele was a DEI hire before there was DEI.

  Just as "The Wise Latina" was.

[Cyber Liberty]

Meanwhile, there are Leftists that insist Trump never went to that Hospital.

Excerpt from the article:

This is the moment a US Secret Service agent struggles to holster her weapon after Donald Trump was shot in an assassination attempt.

Trump, 78, was left bloodied and wounded last night when a bullet pierced the ‘upper part’ of his right ear during a rally in Pennsylvania.

There appeared to be chaotic scenes as Trump was bundled into a nearby vehicle as confused-looking Secret Service agents nervously looked around.

[Cyber Liberty]

Please excerpt your articles when posting them.   Our patience is running out.

[mystery-ak]

Exclusive — Marjorie Taylor Greene: Mayorkas ‘Stepping In and Slowing the Process of Information’ About Attempted Assassination of Trump

Alejandro Mayorkas is “stepping in and slowing the process of information” about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/17/watch-exclusive-marjorie-taylor-greene-mayorkas-stepping-in-slowing-process-information/

[libertybele]

BS in my view. Totally. These “articles” are part of the problem.

Right.  Every time something is reported there's another article almost stating the opposite.

[libertybele]

Exclusive — Marjorie Taylor Greene: Mayorkas ‘Stepping In and Slowing the Process of Information’ About Attempted Assassination of Trump

Alejandro Mayorkas is “stepping in and slowing the process of information” about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/17/watch-exclusive-marjorie-taylor-greene-mayorkas-stepping-in-slowing-process-information/

Also remember that there were members of the GOP who would not go along with impeaching this azzhat!  He's a huge part of what ails this country which now includes the investigation of an assassination attempt of a former president.

[mountaineer]

I read the article.  Why would they call?  He was an adult. 

I wonder if Crooks had mental issues of which his parents were aware. If so, parents of a mentally ill adult child would be concerned if he wasn't where they expected him to be, like work or home, and they'd fear for his safety. I don't know. None of the HS classmates or his HS guidance counselor indicated he had mental issues (just "quiet"), but sometimes things like schizophrenia don't emerge until late teens/early 20s.

On the other hand, I agree this whole thing is hinky and suspect certain government operatives are behind it. In that case, maybe the kid had said something in the presence of his parents in the days leading up to this that made them nervous. Then, voila, he isn't at home Saturday like they expected. It's a mystery (at least, for now).

[Hoodat]

Four unanswered questions about Trump assassination attempt
By
Ashley Oliver
July 17, 2024 7:00 am

Here's three more:

1)  Did they recover every bullet that was fired?

2)  Have they matched every bullet to a weapon?

3)  What is the name of the person in charge who made the call to let Trump remain on stage, in the sights of a potential shooter while ordering SWAT snipers to hold their fire?

[mountaineer]

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
BREAKING.🚨

"There was a blanket tactical channel being used. Everyone who was on that tactical channel heard it."

The local officer that confronted the Trump rally shooter radioed in to a shared police channel that there was an armed gunman on the roof prior to former President Trump being shot.  ...

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1813638058065240366

[mystery-ak]

John Ocasio-Rodham Nolte
@NolteNC
3:00 — Assassin under suspicion when range finder sets off metal detector.

5:45 — counter-sniper spots assassin on roof. Radios it in.

6:02-6:04 — They still allow Trump to take the stage

6:11 — after enjoying seven minutes to set up his shot, assassin brandishes rifle at cop.

Seconds later — assassin gets off 8 shots at Trump before he’s shot.

THIS IS INSANE.
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🇺🇸 The Briefing Room 🇺🇸 🇮🇱

[mystery-ak]

Here's three more:

1)  Did they recover every bullet that was fired?

2)  Have they matched every bullet to a weapon?

3)  What is the name of the person in charge who made the call to let Trump remain on stage, in the sights of a potential shooter while ordering SWAT snipers to hold their fire?

1] that is my question...the bullet that whizzed past Trump went where?

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/TheMattBrowne/status/1813619128881889710

[mystery-ak]

Sen McConnell calls for new leadership at Secret Service

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell , R-Ky., joined a growing list of lawmakers who are calling on U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign after a botched security detail in Butler, Pennsylvania nearly led to the assassination of former President Trump.

“Last week’s near-assassination of former President Trump was a grave attack on American democracy,” McConnell wrote in a post on X. “The nation deserves answers and accountability. New leadership at the Secret Service would be an important step in that direction.”

Cheatle has been under heavy scrutiny in the days following the assassination attempt as lawmakers and federal agencies, including the FBI, have opened investigations to figure out what went wrong.

Cheatle said in an interview with CNN the Secret Service was "solely responsible" for security at Trump's rally, where 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks managed to climb on top of a nearby building and fire a rifle at Trump. One spectator was killed, and the Republican candidate and two others were injured during the attempted assassination on Saturday.

She is also facing harsh criticism after claiming during an interview with ABC News that personnel were not positioned on top of the building where the Trump rally shooter opened fire because of a "sloped roof," despite images showing snipers set up on a sloped roof behind the former president’s podium.

"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside," she said.
Posted by Greg Wehner

[mystery-ak]

Sen. Barrasso says Secret Service meeting with lawmakers was ‘A 100% cover-your-a-- briefing’

Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., tells Fox News that the Secret Service’s meeting with Senate lawmakers on Wednesday was a “100% cover-your-a—briefing” after the assassination attempt on former President Trump last Saturday.

Barrasso’s office said “no one has taken responsibility” despite the gunman having been “identified as being suspicious one hour before the shooting.”

“He had a range finder and a backpack. The Secret Service lost sight of him. No one has taken responsibility. No one has been held responsible. Someone has died. The President was almost killed. The head of the Secret Service needs to go,” Barrasso said, referring to USSS Director Kimberly Cheatle.

Two people were injured and another attendee was killed in the assassination attempt on Trump. In the days since, the Secret Service has faced intense scrutiny for the security lapse, with calls mounting for Cheatle to resign.
Posted by Bradford Betz

[mystery-ak]

Iconic Secret Service sniper team photo doesn’t show agents who took down would-be assassin



The widely circulated photograph showing a pair of U.S. Secret Service counter snipers on a rooftop overlooking Saturday’s Trump rally does not show the agents who neutralized the threat, authorities said.

There were four counter-sniper teams overlooking the event, Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi told Fox News Digital, two from the USSS and two local teams.

The photo shows the “second team,” he said, which did not fire the fatal shot.

The Secret Service took down Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old would-be assassin, after he killed a spectator and critically wounded two others minutes after former President Donald Trump took the stage. The Republican candidate was struck in the ear and went to a nearby hospital for treatment.

A local marksman also engaged the suspect but did not fire the fatal shot, Butler County officials have confirmed.

Butler Country District Attorney Richard Goldinger told Fox News that officer had been placed on a routine administrative leave, standard procedure for all police-involved shootings.

A federal law enforcement source also confirmed that there was a local tactical team was stationed in a building on the property where the sniper fired from, however it was unclear whether it was the same building. There are several structures on the lot, which was outside the Secret Service’s secure perimeter.

This is a report by Fox News Digital's Michael Ruiz. Fox News’ CB Cotton and Matt Finn contributed to this report.
Posted by Bradford Betz

[mystery-ak]

DHS opens investigation into Secret Service’s counter sniper team

 The Department of Homeland Security opened a second investigation into the U.S. Secret Service for its handling of providing security for former President Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, with the latest focusing on the counter sniper team.

The office of Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari, who was appointed as the inspector general by former President Trump in 2019, opened the investigation.

The investigation was recently listed on the Office of Inspector General’s website page that lists ongoing projects.

The most recent investigation is “to determine the extent to which the [Secret Service] Counter Sniper Team is prepared to respond to threats at events attended by designated protectees.”

Additional projects listed on the page include an evaluation of the Secret Service’s process for securing Trump’s July 13, 2014 campaign event.

Fox News’ David Spunt contributed to this report.
Posted by Greg Wehner

[goatprairie]

I read the article.  Why would they call?  He was an adult.  Had he been missing for days?  Did his father notice that his AR 15 was missing?  His parents were counselors, did they notice something about his behavior that had them concerned?  Lots of unanswered questions.

We can't lose sight of the incompetency of the SS.  I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job.

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

[mountaineer]

1] that is my question...the bullet that whizzed past Trump went where?

Exactly. It's the job of investigators to account for every round - where it came from, where it went.

[Smokin Joe]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

I thought Hinckley was just trying to get a date with Jodie Foster.

As for incompetency, in an environment with more than enough malice sloshing around, don't you think incompetence could, at the very least, be an unconscious manifestation of that violence? It doesn't take much to go the full passive aggressive route and say that the malice wasn't malice, it was just incompetence.

They had one job...

[Elderberry]

Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🚨🇺🇸NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS TRUMP DODGED PERFECTLY AIMED SHOT

Close-up footage reveals Thomas Crooks' shot was perfectly centered on Trump's head.

Trump’s 'head tilt' to look at a screen graphic and leaning into the microphone saved his life.

The footage was captured just seconds before the shot.

Source: @C3PMeme

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1813626264957440282

[Cyber Liberty]

Since Saturday night, I've moved from LIHOP to MIHOP.

[DB]

I thought Hinckley was just trying to get a date with Jodie Foster.

As for incompetency, in an environment with more than enough malice sloshing around, don't you think incompetence could, at the very least, be an unconscious manifestation of that violence? It doesn't take much to go the full passive aggressive route and say that the malice wasn't malice, it was just incompetence.

They had one job...

They had him flagged as a potential threat more than an hour before he fired:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-fbi-investigation-attempted-assassination-july-17

No one would likely be dead had they acted. Seems pretty shocking, if not impossible, that so many things had to work just right for the shooter to have his opportunity with him being out in the open with so many bright red flags detected by so many people.

[libertybele]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

Gross incompetency- obviously but one must also consider the fact that Trump's SS detail was thinned down and new hires were put in place one day before the event which isn't enough time to prepare and train for the event. Some of the SS detail that was thinned down went to protect Jill -- how convenient.

So -- was it gross incompetency all the way around or are the 'holes' that were purposefully constructed to try to take Trump out?

The incompetency will get kicked down the road and nothing further will be investigated.  An independent investigation needs to happen, but no worries, we have the same FBI that investigated Mar a Lago investigating the attempted assassination.

Dan Bongino who worked for the SS comments:
@dbongino

I want to repeat, and can absolutely confirm, the USSS Director Kim Cheatle has repeatedly turned down requests for a larger security footprint around President Trump. Despite knowing the threat level is catastrophic.
Resign tonight.
Dan Bongino
@dbongino
USSS Director Kim Cheatle must resign. She was warned about this, and she ignored the warnings.

[libertybele]

Conflicting Accounts Emerge About Security at Trump Rally

Federal and local officials differed over where a sniper team was when a gunman fired at former President Donald J. Trump, adding to questions about the Secret Service response.


New details and conflicting reports emerged on Tuesday about the security at the campaign rally where former President Donald J. Trump was shot. The Secret Service and local police agencies gave contradictory accounts, and leaders in Washington intensified their scrutiny of the failures in Mr. Trump’s protection — even after the Secret Service had beefed up security because of a potential Iranian assassination plot..........................

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/16/us/trump-shooting-investigation

[libertybele]

They had him flagged as a potential threat more than an hour before he fired:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-fbi-investigation-attempted-assassination-july-17

No one would likely be dead had they acted. Seems pretty shocking, if not impossible, that so many things had to work just right for the shooter to have his opportunity with him being out in the open with so many bright red flags detected by so many people.

Exactly!

[mountaineer]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING - PunchBowl is reporting: Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots
—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence
4:15 PM · Jul 17, 2024

[Bigun]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING - PunchBowl is reporting: Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots
—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence
4:15 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Translation; the kid was working with a pro.

[mountaineer]

Russian prisoner Mark Fogel's 95-year-old mother was at the Butler rally to meet with Trump. He planned to talk about Fogel's detention (remember, Biden got B. Griner out of Russia for the same offense, but has ignored Fogel). Please watch entire video.


Vicki Iseman was assisting 95-year-old Malphine Fogel, who was supposed to take the stage with Trump to advocate for the release of her son from a Russian prison. She recounts the entire story in this tearful interview:

https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1813687572977316237

[mountaineer]

Re the parents being concerned when they didn't know where their adult son was:

Leland Vittert
@LelandVittert
A senior congressional source directly briefed on the #TrumpAssasinationAttempt  investigation tells @NewsNation that Thomas Matthew Crooks had a "major depressive disorder diagnosis" and that the USSS had identified him 60 mins before the shooting as a person of interest.
5:37 PM · Jul 17, 2024

[deb]

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1813610648418545940

It was God’s intervention, plain and simple.

[mountaineer]

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
You know what sounds like a conspiracy theory?
That this 20 year old with zero bomb or special forces experience was able to build a bomb with a remote detonator, sneak a rifle past Secret Service, gain access to a rooftop across from the president and shoot him with ZERO help.
10:43 AM · Jul 17, 2024

The Yootopian
@TheYootopian
It is a little crazy that he found the ONE building that was not secured… and figured out how to get on the roof…
All without knowing anything about the @SecretService’s protection plan and positioning.
Can someone really be this lucky?
Or is the Secret Service just that inept?
10:46 AM · Jul 17, 2024
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Initial reports said he wasn't a very good student at all. Then we heard he went to a tech school.
On tonight's Pittsburgh news, it was reported that he went to the tech school for two years during high school to study computers and that he was very bright. They said he was planning to start college in the fall - two years after graduating from high school.
Make of that what you will. It's perplexing.

[Lando Lincoln]

https://x.com/wildbarestepf/status/1812349004530983364

[Right_in_Virginia]

"🚨🇺🇸NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS TRUMP DODGED PERFECTLY AIMED SHOT

Close-up footage reveals Thomas Crooks' shot was perfectly centered on Trump's head.

Trump’s 'head tilt' to look at a screen graphic and leaning into the microphone saved his life.  The footage was captured just seconds before the shot."

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1813626264957440282

[libertybele]

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
You know what sounds like a conspiracy theory?
That this 20 year old with zero bomb or special forces experience was able to build a bomb with a remote detonator, sneak a rifle past Secret Service, gain access to a rooftop across from the president and shoot him with ZERO help.
10:43 AM · Jul 17, 2024

The Yootopian
@TheYootopian
It is a little crazy that he found the ONE building that was not secured… and figured out how to get on the roof…
All without knowing anything about the @SecretService’s protection plan and positioning.
Can someone really be this lucky?
Or is the Secret Service just that inept?
10:46 AM · Jul 17, 2024
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Initial reports said he wasn't a very good student at all. Then we heard he went to a tech school.
On tonight's Pittsburgh news, it was reported that he went to the tech school for two years during high school to study computers and that he was very bright. They said he was planning to start college in the fall - two years after graduating from high school.
Make of that what you will. It's perplexing.

Nothing more than coincidences.   

[roamer_1]

"I'm still leaning towards that Crook was a patsy and this was an inside job"

What? Inside job? And your proof is what? You don't have any.
 Crooks was just another screwed-up young man who hated politicians. One showed up near his home, and in his messed up mind he thought he could perform a heroic act.
Stop ascribing devious plots by evil masterminds to things that can be explained by reasonable means.
John Hinckley was in that category. Nobody used him as a patsy. But he was almost successful in killing Reagan. Crooks almost killed Trump because  THE SS WAS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!! No evil plot. Just gov. departments probably screwed up by liberal politicians who believe diversity is more important than competence.

With the exception of encrypted comms found on the boy - That needs to be better defined .... Comms *at all* implies conspiracy - But with that exception in the facts known at this time, I will stand with you.

[DB]

With the exception of encrypted comms found on the boy - That needs to be better defined .... Comms *at all* implies conspiracy - But with that exception in the facts known at this time, I will stand with you.

"Signal" is an encryption app for private secure texting. It is pier to pier so your messages are not on a server somewhere. Typically each end point is configured so that the message self-deletes after a set amount of time.

[roamer_1]

"Signal" is an encryption app for private secure texting. It is pier to pier so your messages are not on a server somewhere. Typically each end point is configured so that the message self-deletes after a set amount of time.

So not necessarily 'secure, encrypted comms'... True, but exaggerated.

[Bigun]

https://x.com/wildbarestepf/status/1812349004530983364