Author Topic: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]  (Read 141005 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,745
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #200 on: July 15, 2024, 09:21:18 pm »
...and they just so happened to keep Trump's detail small and magically a nut job appeared to take him out??

Maybe.  There are nuts everywhere and Mayorkas was probably counting on that.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 64,998
  • Gender: Female
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #201 on: July 15, 2024, 09:24:25 pm »
Not that easy. It is right, but it's not quite that easy.
For instance - Identifying ONE shooter does not tell you if there are others. Leaving him in the sights and buying time for observation in all directions has a valid purpose.

It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

Offline Ghost Bear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,540
  • Gender: Male
  • Not an actual picture of me
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #202 on: July 15, 2024, 09:27:41 pm »
You are right.  As to 'why didn't they'?  Inside job.

Yes, I agree.
America should be run for the benefit of Americans, not for foreigners, not for corporations.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,502
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #203 on: July 15, 2024, 09:28:03 pm »
Oilfield Rando
@Oilfield_Rando
There’s a $2 billion NSA data center in Utah that spies on all of our phones except for one owned by some 20 year old would-be ass*ssin who looks strangely like Liz Warren
1:37 PM · Jul 15, 2024

MemeticDialectics
@MemeticDesigns
He was just too sophisticated for the FBI, first with the ladder, who could have predicted that, really just top strat, and now with the 4 digit pin locking his phone, phew, this guy must be sole sort of genius, we at the FBI are just in awe, he really got us this time.
1:44 PM · Jul 15, 2024


 :silly:

Well yeah... alright... But it takes time to get the phone to the basement geeks somewhere that have the ability to crack the phone... And it takes some time to actually hack it.

Online mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,027
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #204 on: July 15, 2024, 09:34:50 pm »
Well yeah... alright... But it takes time to get the phone to the basement geeks somewhere that have the ability to crack the phone... And it takes some time to actually hack it.
I believe the FBI now have gotten into the  phone. Probably outsourced it to a 14 year old.
The abnormal is not the normal just because it is prevalent.
Roger Kimball, in a talk at Hillsdale College, 1/29/25

Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,133
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #205 on: July 15, 2024, 09:38:08 pm »
The FBI can make a fake head with a 3D printer in short order to fool the facial recognition if it's an iPhone.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,502
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #206 on: July 15, 2024, 09:47:23 pm »
It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

Like I said - That's right, but not that easy.

Them overwatch guys are on a leash until there is action.
And the ground guys might be worried about what action will do - For instance, it might be that a shooter goes off in order to drive the primary toward a bomb... They think like that... So the SS dogpile him and move him out.. right into an explosion. So situational awareness has its value... And its price.

You're right. And no excuses. I am just pointing out reasons. Similar to that Texas school getting assaulted and protocol preventing action... No excuse. Dereliction of duty. that's the end of it any way you look at it.

But you don't change things if you don't understand the reason. Going off half-cocked with conspiratorial nonsense is too easy.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,502
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #207 on: July 15, 2024, 09:49:29 pm »
I believe the FBI now have gotten into the  phone. Probably outsourced it to a 14 year old.

Something like that.  happy77

Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,133
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #208 on: July 15, 2024, 09:53:29 pm »
It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

Trump was uncooperative in their attempt to safely move him. He forcefully stood up and waved his arms. There is only so much the SS can do. Having stairs to the podium was also a mess. They couldn't easily move as one while trying to navigate down the stairs. That's where the ladies were having a lot of problems.

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #209 on: July 15, 2024, 09:54:31 pm »
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

JUST IN: The building that Thomas Crooks climbed on top of and fired from was the staging area for the police tactical team according to ABC News.

Holy sh*t.

"The building where gunman Thomas Crooks scrambled onto the roof and opened fire was the staging area for the local police tactical team doing overwatch of the crowd, two law enforcement officials told ABC News."

Investigators are trying to figure out how Crooks was able to get roof access.


https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1812915463334338995

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 61,054
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #210 on: July 15, 2024, 10:04:30 pm »
Trump was uncooperative in their attempt to safely move him. He forcefully stood up and waved his arms. There is only so much the SS can do. Having stairs to the podium was also a mess. They couldn't easily move as one while trying to navigate down the stairs. That's where the ladies were having a lot of problems.
Egress stairs appeared too narrow for such a maneuver.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #211 on: July 15, 2024, 10:21:42 pm »
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Everyone MUST watch this split-screen video of the moments leading up to the attack.

Secret Service had 2 FULL MINUTES.

If not for 𝕏, you'd never see this:


https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1812810227739132168

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,745
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #212 on: July 15, 2024, 10:33:34 pm »

Investigators are trying to figure out how Crooks was able to get roof access.


Uh...maybe that ladder seen in some of the pics?
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline corbe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,971
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #213 on: July 15, 2024, 10:54:59 pm »
   The noqreport was great @IsailedawayfromFR Thanks for sharing.
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,020
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #214 on: July 15, 2024, 11:02:03 pm »
Actually, the same bullet. The difference is in cartridge internal dimensions and chamber pressure.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/.223_Remington

This is why, when I decided to purchase an AR-15 platform sporting rifle, I chose 5.56 chamber.  Years later, I won one in a raffle, and it is also 5.56.  I want accuracy and range.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,020
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #215 on: July 15, 2024, 11:07:02 pm »
Good for her.

Agreed, as usual!  She knows it all happened because of Biteme whipping up the Anti-Trump hate. 
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,979
  • Gender: Male
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #216 on: July 15, 2024, 11:09:06 pm »
Uh...maybe that ladder seen in some of the pics?

Photos I've seen prior clearly show a ladder type contraption secured flush to the side wall of the building...plus a plank across to adjacent structure.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,020
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #217 on: July 15, 2024, 11:25:34 pm »
Photos I've seen prior clearly show a ladder type contraption secured flush to the side wall of the building...plus a plank across to adjacent structure.

Probably a permanent ladder, part of the building.  Common in Industrial buildings.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #218 on: July 16, 2024, 06:51:04 am »
This is why, when I decided to purchase an AR-15 platform sporting rifle, I chose 5.56 chamber.  Years later, I won one in a raffle, and it is also 5.56.  I want accuracy and range.

I had been hunting for several years with a Rem 700, I had rebarreled in 6.5x47 Lapua. So for my first AR-15, I chose the 6.5 Grendel. The Grendel only gives up 200 fps from the Lapua, shooting the same bullet as the Lapua.

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #219 on: July 16, 2024, 07:01:20 am »
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

JUST IN: Thomas Crooks took out a rangefinder which was noticed by a sn*per before the rally before he "disappeared" and returned with a backpack. 
 
Let me say that again: Sn*pers saw Crooks pull out a **rangefinder** to calculate the distance to the target and still didn't stop him.

According to CBS News, sn*pers observed Crooks checking out the structure, taking out a rangefinder, and later returning with a backpack.

Local law enforcement says Crooks kept "disappearing" before he climbed on the roof.

"One of the sn*pers inside saw Thomas Matthew Crooks outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building..." CBS reported.

"Crooks came back, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the sn*pers took a picture of him. Crooks took out a rangefinder and the sn*per radioed to the command post."

"Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The sn*pers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building."

Officers now think Crooks used an air conditioning unit to get on the roof.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1813046793720242276

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #220 on: July 16, 2024, 07:08:53 am »
Jesse Watters
@JesseBWatters

We still have a lot of questions about the Trump assassination attempt, and the Feds are only making this more confusing. The Secret Service is pointing their fingers at the locals and the locals are pointing their fingers back. Now a local Pennsylvania station is reporting that local law enforcement spotted Crooks nearly HALF AN HOUR BEFORE the shooting and called it in. Why wasn’t any action taken?

The FBI somehow says they still don’t have a motive. The Pittsburgh FBI Field Office is running point on this investigation- the same field office that buried the Biden bribery tip in Ukraine. And Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle says she won’t resign, but will do an internal investigation. How do we know her internal investigation isn’t going to be a cover-up? Under her watch, the Secret Service destroyed their texts from January 6 and blew up the White House cocaine.

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #221 on: July 16, 2024, 07:30:02 am »
A woke joke: Secret Service failure for Trump blamed on leftist insanity

WND

Agency now focuses on ‘diversity’ instead of an ability to guard protectees

The U.S. Secret Service is the agency assigned to protect government officials, specifically the president, vice president and others.

The operatives also investigate some crimes, such as certain financial malfeasances, but it is known for its agents who protect Joe Biden, Kamala Harris – and GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.

It took only a fraction of a second on Saturday for that assignment to blow up in their faces, as millions of Americans watched as a sniper tried to shoot Trump, and injured him, during a campaign rally.

That near-catastrophic failure is going to reverberate for that government team now for a long time.

Was it the “diversity” demands imposed by leftists in the Secret Service bureaucracy that somehow failed Trump?

Was it a leftist ideology that diverted agents from Trump's detail to another, for Jill Biden?

Was it a failure to communicate and coordinate with local police, who often assist the Secret Service's security efforts?

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/07/a-woke-joke-secret-service-failure-for-trump-blamed-on-leftist-insanity/

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #222 on: July 16, 2024, 08:23:37 am »
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

BREAKING: A police counter sn*per team was *inside* the building that Thomas Crooks shot from *during* the sho*ting according to the New York Post.

This just keeps getting more insane.

According to sources who spoke with the Post, Crooks was literally climbing on top of the building where the "watch post" for the sn*pers was located.

"The building, the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania, was being used by local police as a "watch post" for sn*pers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away," the Post reported.

Crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 minutes before the incident.


https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1813010391942984128

Online Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,204
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #223 on: July 16, 2024, 08:46:15 am »
Trump rally shooter went to gun range on Friday

From CNN's John Miller

Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter at the Trump rally, went to the rifle range at the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club in Pennsylvania on Friday, according to a senior law enforcement official.

On Saturday morning, the shooter went to Home Depot and bought a five-foot ladder before going to the gun store and purchasing the 50 rounds of ammunition, the source said.

Later that afternoon, Crooks drove to the rally site in Butler, where CNN previously reported he was spotted by local law enforcement acting suspiciously by the magnetometers outside the event, and then not spotted again until he was perched on that roof.

Authorities are still working toward retracing all of his activities in the days leading up to the shooting and have asked the public for help in building out the full picture of his movements.
 

Online 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 20,362
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #224 on: July 16, 2024, 08:48:02 am »
President Biden better double/triple his security. The Deep State failed to assassinate Trump.
That leaves only one option left for them.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists