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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #200 on: July 15, 2024, 09:21:18 pm »
...and they just so happened to keep Trump's detail small and magically a nut job appeared to take him out??

Maybe.  There are nuts everywhere and Mayorkas was probably counting on that.
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« Reply #201 on: July 15, 2024, 09:24:25 pm »
Not that easy. It is right, but it's not quite that easy.
For instance - Identifying ONE shooter does not tell you if there are others. Leaving him in the sights and buying time for observation in all directions has a valid purpose.

It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

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« Reply #202 on: July 15, 2024, 09:27:41 pm »
You are right.  As to 'why didn't they'?  Inside job.

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« Reply #203 on: July 15, 2024, 09:28:03 pm »
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There’s a $2 billion NSA data center in Utah that spies on all of our phones except for one owned by some 20 year old would-be ass*ssin who looks strangely like Liz Warren
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He was just too sophisticated for the FBI, first with the ladder, who could have predicted that, really just top strat, and now with the 4 digit pin locking his phone, phew, this guy must be sole sort of genius, we at the FBI are just in awe, he really got us this time.
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Well yeah... alright... But it takes time to get the phone to the basement geeks somewhere that have the ability to crack the phone... And it takes some time to actually hack it.

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« Reply #204 on: July 15, 2024, 09:34:50 pm »
Well yeah... alright... But it takes time to get the phone to the basement geeks somewhere that have the ability to crack the phone... And it takes some time to actually hack it.
I believe the FBI now have gotten into the  phone. Probably outsourced it to a 14 year old.
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« Reply #205 on: July 15, 2024, 09:38:08 pm »
The FBI can make a fake head with a 3D printer in short order to fool the facial recognition if it's an iPhone.

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« Reply #206 on: July 15, 2024, 09:47:23 pm »
It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

Like I said - That's right, but not that easy.

Them overwatch guys are on a leash until there is action.
And the ground guys might be worried about what action will do - For instance, it might be that a shooter goes off in order to drive the primary toward a bomb... They think like that... So the SS dogpile him and move him out.. right into an explosion. So situational awareness has its value... And its price.

You're right. And no excuses. I am just pointing out reasons. Similar to that Texas school getting assaulted and protocol preventing action... No excuse. Dereliction of duty. that's the end of it any way you look at it.

But you don't change things if you don't understand the reason. Going off half-cocked with conspiratorial nonsense is too easy.

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« Reply #207 on: July 15, 2024, 09:49:29 pm »
I believe the FBI now have gotten into the  phone. Probably outsourced it to a 14 year old.

Something like that.  happy77

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« Reply #208 on: July 15, 2024, 09:53:29 pm »
It doesn't matter if there was one shooter or two shooters, or three -- first and foremost they should have immediately moved Trump.  Bottom line.  They failed to do so.

Trump was uncooperative in their attempt to safely move him. He forcefully stood up and waved his arms. There is only so much the SS can do. Having stairs to the podium was also a mess. They couldn't easily move as one while trying to navigate down the stairs. That's where the ladies were having a lot of problems.

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« Reply #209 on: July 15, 2024, 09:54:31 pm »
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JUST IN: The building that Thomas Crooks climbed on top of and fired from was the staging area for the police tactical team according to ABC News.

Holy sh*t.

"The building where gunman Thomas Crooks scrambled onto the roof and opened fire was the staging area for the local police tactical team doing overwatch of the crowd, two law enforcement officials told ABC News."

Investigators are trying to figure out how Crooks was able to get roof access.


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« Reply #210 on: July 15, 2024, 10:04:30 pm »
Trump was uncooperative in their attempt to safely move him. He forcefully stood up and waved his arms. There is only so much the SS can do. Having stairs to the podium was also a mess. They couldn't easily move as one while trying to navigate down the stairs. That's where the ladies were having a lot of problems.
Egress stairs appeared too narrow for such a maneuver.
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« Reply #211 on: July 15, 2024, 10:21:42 pm »
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Everyone MUST watch this split-screen video of the moments leading up to the attack.

Secret Service had 2 FULL MINUTES.

If not for 𝕏, you'd never see this:


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« Reply #212 on: July 15, 2024, 10:33:34 pm »

Investigators are trying to figure out how Crooks was able to get roof access.


Uh...maybe that ladder seen in some of the pics?
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« Reply #213 on: July 15, 2024, 10:54:59 pm »
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« Reply #214 on: July 15, 2024, 11:02:03 pm »
Actually, the same bullet. The difference is in cartridge internal dimensions and chamber pressure.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/.223_Remington

This is why, when I decided to purchase an AR-15 platform sporting rifle, I chose 5.56 chamber.  Years later, I won one in a raffle, and it is also 5.56.  I want accuracy and range.
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« Reply #215 on: July 15, 2024, 11:07:02 pm »
Good for her.

Agreed, as usual!  She knows it all happened because of Biteme whipping up the Anti-Trump hate. 
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« Reply #216 on: July 15, 2024, 11:09:06 pm »
Uh...maybe that ladder seen in some of the pics?

Photos I've seen prior clearly show a ladder type contraption secured flush to the side wall of the building...plus a plank across to adjacent structure.
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« Reply #217 on: July 15, 2024, 11:25:34 pm »
Photos I've seen prior clearly show a ladder type contraption secured flush to the side wall of the building...plus a plank across to adjacent structure.

Probably a permanent ladder, part of the building.  Common in Industrial buildings.
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« Reply #218 on: July 16, 2024, 06:51:04 am »
This is why, when I decided to purchase an AR-15 platform sporting rifle, I chose 5.56 chamber.  Years later, I won one in a raffle, and it is also 5.56.  I want accuracy and range.

I had been hunting for several years with a Rem 700, I had rebarreled in 6.5x47 Lapua. So for my first AR-15, I chose the 6.5 Grendel. The Grendel only gives up 200 fps from the Lapua, shooting the same bullet as the Lapua.

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« Reply #219 on: July 16, 2024, 07:01:20 am »
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JUST IN: Thomas Crooks took out a rangefinder which was noticed by a sn*per before the rally before he "disappeared" and returned with a backpack. 
 
Let me say that again: Sn*pers saw Crooks pull out a **rangefinder** to calculate the distance to the target and still didn't stop him.

According to CBS News, sn*pers observed Crooks checking out the structure, taking out a rangefinder, and later returning with a backpack.

Local law enforcement says Crooks kept "disappearing" before he climbed on the roof.

"One of the sn*pers inside saw Thomas Matthew Crooks outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building..." CBS reported.

"Crooks came back, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the sn*pers took a picture of him. Crooks took out a rangefinder and the sn*per radioed to the command post."

"Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The sn*pers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building."

Officers now think Crooks used an air conditioning unit to get on the roof.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #220 on: July 16, 2024, 07:08:53 am »
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We still have a lot of questions about the Trump assassination attempt, and the Feds are only making this more confusing. The Secret Service is pointing their fingers at the locals and the locals are pointing their fingers back. Now a local Pennsylvania station is reporting that local law enforcement spotted Crooks nearly HALF AN HOUR BEFORE the shooting and called it in. Why wasn’t any action taken?

The FBI somehow says they still don’t have a motive. The Pittsburgh FBI Field Office is running point on this investigation- the same field office that buried the Biden bribery tip in Ukraine. And Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle says she won’t resign, but will do an internal investigation. How do we know her internal investigation isn’t going to be a cover-up? Under her watch, the Secret Service destroyed their texts from January 6 and blew up the White House cocaine.

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« Reply #221 on: July 16, 2024, 07:30:02 am »
A woke joke: Secret Service failure for Trump blamed on leftist insanity

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Agency now focuses on ‘diversity’ instead of an ability to guard protectees

The U.S. Secret Service is the agency assigned to protect government officials, specifically the president, vice president and others.

The operatives also investigate some crimes, such as certain financial malfeasances, but it is known for its agents who protect Joe Biden, Kamala Harris – and GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.

It took only a fraction of a second on Saturday for that assignment to blow up in their faces, as millions of Americans watched as a sniper tried to shoot Trump, and injured him, during a campaign rally.

That near-catastrophic failure is going to reverberate for that government team now for a long time.

Was it the “diversity” demands imposed by leftists in the Secret Service bureaucracy that somehow failed Trump?

Was it a leftist ideology that diverted agents from Trump's detail to another, for Jill Biden?

Was it a failure to communicate and coordinate with local police, who often assist the Secret Service's security efforts?

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/07/a-woke-joke-secret-service-failure-for-trump-blamed-on-leftist-insanity/

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« Reply #222 on: July 16, 2024, 08:23:37 am »
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BREAKING: A police counter sn*per team was *inside* the building that Thomas Crooks shot from *during* the sho*ting according to the New York Post.

This just keeps getting more insane.

According to sources who spoke with the Post, Crooks was literally climbing on top of the building where the "watch post" for the sn*pers was located.

"The building, the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania, was being used by local police as a "watch post" for sn*pers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away," the Post reported.

Crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 minutes before the incident.


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« Reply #223 on: July 16, 2024, 08:46:15 am »
Trump rally shooter went to gun range on Friday

From CNN's John Miller

Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter at the Trump rally, went to the rifle range at the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club in Pennsylvania on Friday, according to a senior law enforcement official.

On Saturday morning, the shooter went to Home Depot and bought a five-foot ladder before going to the gun store and purchasing the 50 rounds of ammunition, the source said.

Later that afternoon, Crooks drove to the rally site in Butler, where CNN previously reported he was spotted by local law enforcement acting suspiciously by the magnetometers outside the event, and then not spotted again until he was perched on that roof.

Authorities are still working toward retracing all of his activities in the days leading up to the shooting and have asked the public for help in building out the full picture of his movements.
 

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« Reply #224 on: July 16, 2024, 08:48:02 am »
President Biden better double/triple his security. The Deep State failed to assassinate Trump.
That leaves only one option left for them.
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« Reply #225 on: July 16, 2024, 08:48:44 am »
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BREAKING: A police counter sn*per team was *inside* the building that Thomas Crooks shot from *during* the sho*ting according to the New York Post.

This just keeps getting more insane.

According to sources who spoke with the Post, Crooks was literally climbing on top of the building where the "watch post" for the sn*pers was located.

"The building, the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania, was being used by local police as a "watch post" for sn*pers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away," the Post reported.

Crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 minutes before the incident.


https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1813010391942984128

That likely explains why the other police snipers on a different building didn't take a shot.  They called in to that building to ask what was going on because they couldn't believe that an actual assassin could have made it to the roof of that building.

Very clear that the local cops screwed up badly.  But whomever was in charge of the Secret Service should have been monitoring the communications net, heard about an unidentified guy on a roof, and reacted immediately.
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« Reply #226 on: July 16, 2024, 08:49:37 am »
What a swell gal.

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Either the assassination attempt was “unacceptable” and she has to resign…or she was fine with it, has no problem accepting it, and she’s going to keep her job and move on as if nothing happened.
Guess which option she picked after allowing an assassination attempt against Trump!
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I wonder if she would have had same attitude if President was actually killed?

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« Reply #227 on: July 16, 2024, 08:56:06 am »

"There must be some way out of here"
Said the joker to the thief
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I can't get no relief
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« Reply #228 on: July 16, 2024, 09:32:40 am »
Reports: Police Were Stationed Below Trump Shooter, Who Was Allegedly Spotted Nearly 30 Minutes Before

A local police counter-sniper team was stationed inside the building that Thomas Crooks crawled on top of to fire at and nearly kill former President Donald Trump, according to a shocking report.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/16/reports-police-were-stationed-below-trump-shooter-who-was-allegedly-spotted-nearly-30-minutes-before/
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« Reply #229 on: July 16, 2024, 10:10:56 am »
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Secret Service was instructed to protect every building/structure except THE ONE the shooter shot from, which they claim was supposed to be guarded by local police.

It’s obvious the shooter knew this days in advance because he went to the only place that was vulnerable with the pre-planned equipment necessary.

That unequivocally means there is a snake in the Butler County Police Department who made sure that an opening was available for the shooter. He was given his marching orders by the same deep state operative who dictated that the Secret Service would resign their duties to protect the most critical building.

The conclusion: It’s almost impossible for so many things to align without a hand pulling the strings. That hand must be found and eliminated before the next attempt at Trump’s life is successful!

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« Reply #230 on: July 16, 2024, 10:20:00 am »
It’s obvious the shooter knew this days in advance because he went to the only place that was vulnerable with the pre-planned equipment necessary.

That unequivocally means there is a snake in the Butler County Police Department who made sure that an opening was available for the shooter. ...
Quite true. The snake may have been in the local or state police - or some federal entity. All possibilities must be explored, but good luck getting the FBI to get to the bottom of it.
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« Reply #231 on: July 16, 2024, 10:32:23 am »
Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' parents registered Pennsylvania professional counselors: Records
Both of would-be Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks' parents are social workers in Pennsylvania since 2002, records show
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Published July 16, 2024 5:00am EDT

BETHAL PARK, Pa. – The parents of the 20-year-old who unleashed a barrage of gunfire toward former President Trump are licensed professional counselors through the Pennsylvania social work board.

Mary Elizabeth Crooks and Matthew Brian Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, are licensed as professional counselors, according to the Pennsylvania Department of State Licensing System Verification service.

The 20-year-old attempted assassin's parents both have active licenses, the service said.

Both Mary and Matthew's licenses expire in February 2025, and they have been professional counselors since 2002, the records showed.

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« Reply #232 on: July 16, 2024, 12:54:26 pm »
Secret Service Director: Roof Was Too Sloped For Snipers
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The Secret Service director said the security agency did not station snipers on top of the Pennsylvania roof from which a gunman shot former President Donald Trump last weekend because it was “sloped.”

Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service chief refusing calls to step down after Trump was shot in the head, told ABC News that federal officials opted to forgo snipers on the rooftop that was identified as a security threat days before the event.

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she said. “And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.”

Three counter-snipers were positioned in the building underneath the roof from which Saturday’s gunman fired multiple shots killing one rallygoer and injuring three others, including Trump. The event’s security “command center” was even notified of the shooter moments before the would-be assassin began firing into the crowd.

“The shooter was actually identified as a potential person of suspicion,” Cheatle told ABC. “Unfortunately, with the rapid succession of how things unfolded, by the time that individual was eventually located, they were on the rooftop and were able to fire off at the former president.”

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #233 on: July 16, 2024, 12:57:24 pm »
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Secret Service was instructed to protect every building/structure except THE ONE the shooter shot from, which they claim was supposed to be guarded by local police.

It’s obvious the shooter knew this days in advance because he went to the only place that was vulnerable with the pre-planned equipment necessary.

That unequivocally means there is a snake in the Butler County Police Department who made sure that an opening was available for the shooter. He was given his marching orders by the same deep state operative who dictated that the Secret Service would resign their duties to protect the most critical building.

The conclusion: It’s almost impossible for so many things to align without a hand pulling the strings. That hand must be found and eliminated before the next attempt at Trump’s life is successful!

That is what I fear -- that they will continue to try to 'eliminate' Trump.  Perhaps even JD now.

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« Reply #234 on: July 16, 2024, 12:58:00 pm »
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Nobody wants to hear this because of the implications, but oh well: Joe Biden’s security regime deliberately and with malice aforethought created the conditions that led to an assassin shooting Donald Trump in the head. It is by the grace of God that he lived and our nation is not currently in the midst of a violent civil war.

They deliberately starved Trump’s security team of the resources it needed. And they did it repeatedly, over many weeks and months.

With Trump’s security detail understaffed, under-resourced, and stretched to its limits, Biden’s security regime diverted even more resources to a hastily planned Jill Biden event that just happened to be in the area.

Biden’s security regime then ordered the most obvious assassination perch in the entire area to remain outside the main security perimeter.

Furthermore, Biden’s Secret Service director ordered law enforcement and counter-snipers OFF the roof that the assassin used.

If that weren’t enough, Biden’s security regime also refused to block line of sight from the assasssin’s perch to Trump’s location.

When law enforcement radioed in a suspicious person using a laser range finder at the building and even took photos of him, nothing was done to detain the assassin.

The assassin was so obviously a threat that bystanders at the event begged law enforcement to stop him, but nothing happened.

And even as snipers on the roof near Trump saw a gunman on the roof, Biden’s security regime refused to have agents immediately surround Trump and remove him from the stage to protect him from being shot.

Given the lies and nonsense from both Biden’s DHS secretary and his Secret Service director, it’s increasingly difficult to believe this was a just a series of independent mistakes. In contrast, when you look at the entire picture, what you see better resembles a deliberate plan to make Trump vulnerable but to appear at first glance to be just a couple of innocent mistakes.

And when you add in how little information we’ve been given about the about the shooter—apparently the only person on earth not on the Internet—you begin to wonder if maybe a group of people at a different three-letter agency might have been working on a parallel track to find and encourage people to take action against Trump at the very same time he was kept vulnerable by Biden’s regime.

We know this happens, because the FBI did it with Gretchen Whitmer: it recruited and urged disturbed individuals to buy weapons and put together a plan to kidnap her. In that case, the FBI wanted a story it could use to slime right-wingers. So it created the story itself.

What happens when an agency like that, or maybe even another three-letter agency, decides instead that it’s had enough of Trump? Some former FBI employees might even call it an “insurance policy.”

So who was the shooter talking to in the hours, days, and weeks ahead of the event? Who was he meeting with? Did anyone suggest or nudge or urge him to go to the Trump rally in Butler? Did anyone suggest or point out to him the building he eventually used? Was he told at any time to not worry about security?

The FBI told us almost immediately that while it couldn’t open the assassin’s phone, it knew he acted alone. That’s kind of strange, when you think about it. They told us almost immediately that they identified him by DNA, despite him having no criminal record. They also said they found explosives in his car. Why didn’t they just identify him by his plates or registration or next of kin identification? That’s pretty weird, too.

At some point you just have to say enough with the lies. We saw what they did with the Russia hoax. We saw the Kavanaugh hoax. We saw the COVID origin hoax. We saw the Ukraine hoax, the stolen election, the J6 op, and then the armed Mar-a-Lago raid and the myriad illegal cases against Trump.

They called him Hitler. They said he was an existential threat. They said he would destroy democracy. They said he was the most dangerous person on earth.

Then the denied him security. The kept the rooftop open. They watched the shooter and did nothing. They kept Trump on that stage. And they didn’t do a damn thing until after he had been shot in the head.

And we’re all supposed to believe it was just an innocent oopsie?
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« Reply #235 on: July 16, 2024, 12:58:09 pm »
Quite true. The snake may have been in the local or state police - or some federal entity. All possibilities must be explored, but good luck getting the FBI to get to the bottom of it.

The FBI is a joke; they'll basically be investigating themselves.  A private investigation needs to be done.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #238 on: July 16, 2024, 01:23:53 pm »
Secret Service Director: Roof Was Too Sloped For Snipers
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The Secret Service director said the security agency did not station snipers on top of the Pennsylvania roof from which a gunman shot former President Donald Trump last weekend because it was “sloped.”

Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service chief refusing calls to step down after Trump was shot in the head, told ABC News that federal officials opted to forgo snipers on the rooftop that was identified as a security threat days before the event.

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she said. “And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.”

Three counter-snipers were positioned in the building underneath the roof from which Saturday’s gunman fired multiple shots killing one rallygoer and injuring three others, including Trump. The event’s security “command center” was even notified of the shooter moments before the would-be assassin began firing into the crowd.

“The shooter was actually identified as a potential person of suspicion,” Cheatle told ABC. “Unfortunately, with the rapid succession of how things unfolded, by the time that individual was eventually located, they were on the rooftop and were able to fire off at the former president.”

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https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/16/secret-service-director-we-didnt-put-snipers-on-the-roof-because-it-was-kind-of-sloped/
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« Reply #239 on: July 16, 2024, 01:36:30 pm »
Secret Service director: Trump rally shooter was identified as 'potential person of suspicion'
United States Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle says ‘the buck stops with me’
Greg Norman By Greg Norman , Chris Pandolfo , Michael Ruiz Fox News
Published July 16, 2024 9:10am EDT

https://www.foxnews.com/us/secret-service-director-trump-rally-shooter-identified-potential-person-suspicion
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« Reply #240 on: July 16, 2024, 01:38:00 pm »
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« Reply #241 on: July 16, 2024, 01:42:51 pm »
The Secret Service director said the security agency did not station snipers on top of the Pennsylvania roof from which a gunman shot former President Donald Trump last weekend because it was “sloped.”

A roof with a slope??  How unfortunate.


“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she said.

A safety factor?  Seriously?  This person should have already been fired.
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« Reply #242 on: July 16, 2024, 01:43:17 pm »
The Feebs are going to have to put in some overtime to bury this story in lies.  People are already scoffing at everything they say right now.  We know from bitter experience the FBI will lie to hide the true motivations and players.
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« Reply #243 on: July 16, 2024, 02:00:35 pm »
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“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof”
Truly amazing that Geeky McAssassin had no problem not falling off the roof, huh?
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« Reply #244 on: July 16, 2024, 02:04:50 pm »
The Feebs are going to have to put in some overtime to bury this story in lies.  People are already scoffing at everything they say right now.  We know from bitter experience the FBI will lie to hide the true motivations and players.

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« Reply #245 on: July 16, 2024, 02:19:53 pm »
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NEW: Investigators believe Thomas Crooks may have planned on blowing up his car as a distraction so he could assas*inate Trump.

A metal box of explosives connected by wires to a receiver were found in his car which could be detonated by a remote control on his body.

What's even more bizarre is that investigators have reportedly found *nothing* through his search history of him learning how to make homemade explosives.

In the final 48 hours leading up to the incident, Crooks went to the range, went to a Home Depot to purchase a a five-foot ladder, and then went to a gun store where he bought ammo.

Investigators have successfully broken into his phone but claim they have found no motive.

Nothing about this makes any sense.
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« Reply #246 on: July 16, 2024, 02:22:19 pm »
The Feebs are going to have to put in some overtime to bury this story in lies.  People are already scoffing at everything they say right now.  We know from bitter experience the FBI will lie to hide the true motivations and players.

We will likely NEVER know what actually happened here but it's 100% certain that the official report will be total BS. It's happened before.
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« Reply #247 on: July 16, 2024, 02:24:19 pm »
We will likely NEVER know what actually happened here but it's 100% certain that the official report will be total BS. It's happened before.

I am sure the Feebs have already destroyed a lot of evidence. It's what they do.
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« Reply #248 on: July 16, 2024, 02:26:05 pm »
I am sure the Feebs have already destroyed a lot of evidence. It's what they do.

Yes! But this bunch is the keystone cops version of what we've seen previously.
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« Reply #249 on: July 16, 2024, 02:31:38 pm »
Oh my gosh. What happened on Saturday came after USSS "ramped up security." Well, then. What a relief.
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Secret Service ramped up security after receiving intel of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump; no known connection to shooting
By Evan Perez, Zachary Cohen, Natasha Bertrand, Kylie Atwood and Kristen Holmes, CNN
Published 2:05 PM EDT, Tue July 16, 2024

US authorities obtained intelligence from a human source in recent weeks on a plot by Iran to try to assassinate Donald Trump, a development that led to the Secret Service increasing security around the former president in recent weeks, multiple people briefed on the matter told CNN.

There’s no indication that Thomas Matthew Crooks, the would-be assassin who attempted to kill the former president on Saturday, was connected to the plot, the sources said.

The existence of the intelligence threat from a hostile foreign intelligence agency — and the enhanced security for Trump — raises new questions about the security lapses at the Saturday rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, and how a 20-year-old man managed to access a nearby rooftop to fire shots that injured the former president.  ...
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If that was "ramped up," heaven help us.
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