Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/susancrabtree/status/1812606597753168329

[DefiantMassRINO]

130 yards is less than the distance between Home Plate and the Centerfield Wall at Fenway Park.  If someone can hit a baseball 420 feet or more; it is conceivable that someone with a rifle could hit a target at 390 feet.

[Cyber Liberty]

[DCPatriot]

BREAKING NEWS:

TRUMP CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE IS DISMISSED!!

[mystery-ak]

Quantico Reportedly Can’t Access Shooter’s Phone, Yet Claims ‘He Acted Alone’—Tech Mogul Elon Musk Responds
by Jim Hᴏft Jul. 15, 2024 7:45 am

excerpt:

FBI released the following statement Sunday:

    The FBI is investigating the shooting incident at the July 13 rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, which resulted in one victim’s death and injuries to former President Trump and other spectators, as an assassination attempt and potential domestic terrorism.

    While the investigation to date indicates the shooter acted alone, the FBI continues to conduct logical investigative activity to determine if there were any co-conspirators associated with this attack. At this time, there are no current public safety concerns.

    The FBI has not identified a motive for the shooter’s actions, but we are working to determine the sequence of events and the shooter’s movements prior to the shooting, collecting and reviewing evidence, conducting interviews, and following up on all leads. We have also obtained the shooter’s telephone for examination.

    The FBI has searched the shooter’s home and vehicle to collect additional evidence. Suspicious devices found at both locations have been rendered safe by bomb technicians and are being evaluated at the FBI Laboratory.

    The firearm used in the shooting was purchased legally.

    The shooter was not known to the FBI prior to this incident.

more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/quantico-reportedly-cant-access-shooters-phone-yet-claims/

[Cyber Liberty]

BREAKING NEWS:

TRUMP CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE IS DISMISSED!!

Excellent news!!

[massadvj]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384

It is remarkable the times we live in, where virtually everything is recorded and then posted on media, unfiltered by anyone who will add context. Yes, we have the Zapruder film from the Kennedy assassination, but can you imagine how much video would exist if smart phones were around at that time?

This must be extremely embarrassing for the security personnel in charge of this event to look at. Such an obviously preventable breach.

[LMAO]

BREAKING NEWS:

TRUMP CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE IS DISMISSED!!

Pretty hard to try him for something others have gotten away with… Hillary and Biden, for example

[rangerrebew]

Trump's last-minute head tilt that saved his life has illegal immigrant twist
Donald Trump tilted his head at the last minute, which saved him from the sniper's bullet in Philadelphia. It was, in fact, a display of data on illegal immigrants that Trump had turned his head to look at, that saved him by a whisker.
Listen to Story
 
In Short
Trump narrowly escapes shooting at an election rally
While delivering speech he turned to chart, when the shots were fired
The immigration chart was part of his speech on border policies
 
Almost 10 years ago when Donald Trump said, "What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate", many, including the former American President who narrowly escaped a shooting on Saturday, would not have realised the relatability of the statement.

Although the question of winner and loser will be settled later in November, Trump's dodging the bullet on Saturday itself might just qualify as a winner. A last-minute head tilt saved him. That's what Trump said after being escorted off the stage after being hit by a bullet to his right ear.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/donald-trump-credits-immigration-chart-saved-life-head-tilt-us-republican-president-election-assassination-shooting-2566890-2024-07-15

[rangerrebew]

Hoooooray for illegal aliens!!  Now deport them.

[Elderberry]

130 yards is less than the distance between Home Plate and the Centerfield Wall at Fenway Park.  If someone can hit a baseball 420 feet or more; it is conceivable that someone with a rifle could hit a target at 390 feet.

If all he had was a cheapo AR-15  he could of gotten around 2.6 in groups, if he did his part.  Now if he had a quality AR,  he could have possibly gotten 0.7 in groups at 130 yds.

[corbe]

   Now in Orange (to NOT pizz off a certain Briefer)

[PeteS in CA]

NBC Pulls MSNBC’s ‘Morning Joe’ Off Air Monday for News Coverage
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/07/15/nbc-pulls-msnbcs-morning-joe-off-air-monday-for-news-coverage/


Bill Maher: Trump Shooter ‘Has Done So Much Damage to the Left’
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/07/15/bill-maher-trump-shooter-has-done-so-much-damage-to-the-left/


‘Daily Show’ Cancels On-the-Ground RNC Coverage After Trump Assassination Attempt
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/07/15/daily-show-cancels-on-the-ground-rnc-coverage-after-trump-assassination-attempt/

If yanking Mourning Schmoe for a day was considered wise then yaking Joy Reid for a week would be even wiser. She's going to be shrieking in anger and foaming at the mouth for at least that long!

Maher's been dabbling at being a Cassandra to Progs, warning that their Hate-Trump Hysteria is self-destructive. They haven't and won't listen. They hate Trump wa-a-a-a-a-aaayyyyyyyy too much.

Translation: The Daily Show does not trust the Secret Service's security set-up for the RNC Convention.

[PeteS in CA]

Yes. This kind of crap will muddy the waters so much that we may never find out why this was allowed to happen.

I used to think that stuff could not remain hidden for long, because ConservaMedia would ferret it out. Sadly, many in the ConservaMedia rush to publish/broadcast claims they have not fact-checked because they want the claim to be true. American Thinker and Gateway Pundit are significant offenders in this respect, IMO. Breibart published the claim that Secret Service director Cheatle was hired from Pepsico without significant experience in the Secret Service. In the real world, while Cheatle was hired from Pepsico, she had been in the Secret Service from 1995 through 2019, some 24 years.

IMO, when it comes to the failed assassination, take every report with a block of salt, and if it's from the MSM, a Himalayan-sized mountain of salt ... until claims are confirmed.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1812867507348291750

[mystery-ak]

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Pretty crazy how an assassin was given a free shot at Donald Trump after Biden’s debate collapse but right before Donald Trump announced his VP and was formally nominated as the GOP presidential candidate. It’s almost as if the whole thing was engineered not just to eliminate Trump, but to require an entirely new ticket free of any Trump influence whatsoever.

And then it just so happened the shooter is the only person in the entire country without any social media or online footprint whatsoever. And the FBI, after whole minutes of effort, just couldn’t figure out how to crack his phone. What a series of very strange coincidences.
10:15 AM · Jul 15, 2024

[PeteS in CA]

Judge Cannon's dismissal ruling was not on the merits of the case. Her ruling was that Smith's appointment violated the USC, which could set the entire pros-sham-cution back to the shamvestigation and Grand Jury stage.

Smith also has another pros-sham-cution of Trump in DC, in which Trump has filed a similar unconstitutional appointment dismissal motion. No matter how these cases proceed through rulings and appeals, the Dems' October-Surprise-Shamviction timeline got nuked.

[catfish1957]

Maher's been dabbling at being a Cassandra to Progs, warning that their Hate-Trump Hysteria is self-destructive. They haven't and won't listen. They hate Trump wa-a-a-a-a-aaayyyyyyyy too much.

Maher hasn't let up.....  I saw a stand up event of his on YT last night.  He called Trump the luckiest MF'er alive.   Not in the context of he missed getting killed.    Nope, it was around sealing the election garnering sympathy vote.

[deb]

I used to think that stuff could not remain hidden for long, because ConservaMedia would ferret it out. Sadly, many in the ConservaMedia rush to publish/broadcast claims they have not fact-checked because they want the claim to be true. American Thinker and Gateway Pundit are significant offenders in this respect, IMO. Breibart published the claim that Secret Service director Cheatle was hired from Pepsico without significant experience in the Secret Service. In the real world, while Cheatle was hired from Pepsico, she had been in the Secret Service from 1995 through 2019, some 24 years.

Exactly. And just because she was at that agency for 24 years doesn’t mean she wasn’t completely inept.

Make sure it’s pink Himalayan salt. Healthier for you. 

[libertybele]

I've been watching and reading everything I could find about this incident for more than 48 hours now and think I have some idea about what took place. If what I think took place is true, you'll see it only here so pay attention.

The people responsible for this set the young man up to be the patsy (hat tip @jafo2010 ) used him to make sure he drew all the attention while the actual pro was on the roof of the building just behind the one the kid was on wearing attire (rifle and all) that blended with the building. When the kid opened up, the pro took one shot (the one that nearly did the job). When the counter snipers opened up on he kid, the pro slid down from his perch, got in his car, and calmly drove away.


Call me anything you want but that's what I think and it fits the MO.

@Bigun (I'd be one of the last ones to doubt what you're saying or call you anything).  I tend to agree with you -- my gut feeling for awhile is that this was another Lee Harvey Oswald type situation.  I had not thought about the pro getting into the car and driving away though.  Certainly plausible.  However, worrisome.

Will they make another attempt on Trump's life??  The left will stop at nothing.  Nothing!

[Wingnut]

Maher hasn't let up.....  I saw a stand up event of his on YT last night.  He called Trump the luckiest MF'er alive.   Not in the context of he missed getting killed.    Nope, it was around sealing the election garnering sympathy vote.

Libs everywhere are losing their shit over this.  Even the few lib friends of mine I still stay in contact with.   It's like they are grieving the loss of a loved one.

[Bigun]

@Bigun (I'd be one of the last ones to doubt what you're saying or call you anything).  I tend to agree with you -- my gut feeling for awhile is that this was another Lee Harvey Oswald type situation.  I had not thought about the pro getting into the car and driving away though.  Certainly plausible.  However, worrisome.

Will they make another attempt on Trump's life??  The left will stop at nothing.  Nothing!

You are correct @libertybele NOTHING is off the table. $Trillions are at stake.

[mountaineer]

Plausible theory, @Bigun .
Will the Feebs bother to gather ballistics evidence?

[Bigun]

Plausible theory, @Bigun .
Will the Feebs bother to gather ballistics evidence?

Whatever they find that doesn't support the narrative will be buried so deep you'll never find it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

Darren J. Beattie
@DarrenJBeattie

The question isn't just how in the hell that roof 150 yards away from Trump was unguarded

The question is also how this gunman knew that it was unguarded


10:07 AM · Jul 15, 2024

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Brilliant political ad."

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1812674401831170142

[libertybele]

"Brilliant political ad."

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1812674401831170142

 Kid Rock! Pretty darn powerful though this ad may be construed as having a slightly insurrectionist tone.  I am not finding fault, but I see this as a bit on the edge.  However,  I feel people need to realize that this Republic is to that point.

[GtHawk]

If all he had was a cheapo AR-15  he could of gotten around 2.6 in groups, if he did his part.  Now if he had a quality AR,  he could have possibly gotten 0.7 in groups at 130 yds.

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

[corbe]

[Right_in_Virginia]

Kid Rock! Pretty darn powerful though this ad may be construed as having a slightly insurrectionist tone.  I am not finding fault, but I see this as a bit on the edge.  However,  I feel people need to realize that this Republic is to that point.

Valid points.  I don't think it was made for mainstream distribution...but, it should get a couple of million views on Al Gore's magnificent Internet 

[Bigun]

Secret Service agents.



Not Secret Service agents.

[Cyber Liberty]

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

[DCPatriot]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

Piggy-backing on @Bigun 's theory...perhaps the 2nd shooter's task was to shoot Crooks and not Pres. Trump.

@Cyber Liberty  (I seen the movie "SHOOTER" a dozen times) 

[Smokin Joe]

I've been watching and reading everything I could find about this incident for more than 48 hours now and think I have some idea about what took place. If what I think took place is true, you'll see it only here so pay attention.

The people responsible for this set the young man up to be the patsy (hat tip @jafo2010 ) used him to make sure he drew all the attention while the actual pro was on the roof of the building just behind the one the kid was on wearing attire (rifle and all) that blended with the building. When the kid opened up, the pro took one shot (the one that nearly did the job). When the counter snipers opened up on he kid, the pro slid down from his perch, got in his car, and calmly drove away.

Call me anything you want but that's what I think and it fits the MO.

You may be right. Using the fracas and focus on the kid, that would be all the diversion needed. Has anyone checked over the building behind the one the kid was on? I mean really (CSI stuff) checked it over?

My bet is no, because it is human nature to quit looking when you think you have found the answer you are looking for.

[Smokin Joe]

They didn't have time to panic. It takes some time for that to develop.

Awareness of a threat has to sink in first. For some, it comes quicker than others.

[Ghost Bear]

Saw an excellent video mash-up on a livestream, it takes video from several sources, time-syncs them, and has them running simultaneously with a timer so you can see when people pointed out the guy on the roof, how law enforcement reacted, and how long it then took before shooting started.

I'm looking for a link to the video but haven't found it yet, has anyone else seen it?

EDIT: found it:

https://twitter.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1812731727053488418

[Elderberry]

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

I've sighted in rifles for other shooters. At 100 yds, that's not much of an issue.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1812927650215698600

[Hoodat]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

A key to this case will depend on recovery of all fired rounds.  Ballistics should reveal whether they came from the perps gun or possibly some other gun.  So far, I haven't heard any mention of this.

I can't believe they abandoned the scene the night following the attack.  They should have had a whole team of experts combing the premises throughout the night with metal detectors searching for those rounds.  Who leaves a crime scene vacant like that?

[Hoodat]

Libs everywhere are losing their shit over this.  Even the few lib friends of mine I still stay in contact with.   It's like they are grieving the loss of a loved one.

Would their moods be better if Trump had died?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1812927650215698600

In the same manner that Biden directed you to secure the border?

In that puny brain of yours, you are convinced you are doing it.

[Smokin Joe]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

I think you meant .223, and there are ballistic differences. Still, it was his windage and a turn of the head that kept the shot from being lethal, not a question of bullet drop or lack of it.

[SZonian]

[deb]

That’s a definition of a life well-lived. A good and faithful servant.
God bless his family and all those who loved him. May they find comfort in our Savior’s loving arms.

[Bigun]

That’s a definition of a life well-lived. A good and faithful servant.
God bless his family and all those who loved him. May they find comfort in our Savior’s loving arms.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Would their moods be better if Trump had died?

Seriously? It'd look like Mardi Gras out there in blue america.

[verga]

I think you meant .223, and there are ballistic differences. Still, it was his windage and a turn of the head that kept the shot from being lethal, not a question of bullet drop or lack of it.

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

[Bigun]

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

Wylde chambers have been around for a long time and the velocity differences between 5.56 and .223 ammo at 130 yds would be so minor as to be irrelevant. Just my opinion in the last part..

[Sighlass]

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

Paul tested this... and found no difference to note... the differences are too insignificant to notice. Basically the same speeds and accuracy when shooting ammo with similar specs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgGhIcR_Mk

[mountaineer]

My bet is no, because it is human nature to quit looking when you think you have found the answer you are looking for.

Assuming the FBI has any interest at all in finding answers. Will they scour the grounds for every one of the eight rounds Crooks supposedly shot? Will they run ballistics to see whether they all were fired from his father's rifle? I'm not confident they want to find the truth. If they were, they wouldn't be announcing barely 36 hours after the shooting, "Gee golly, we just can't get into the kid's phone. Oh well. But we know he acted alone."