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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #350 on: May 30, 2024, 03:25:18 pm »
The judge is way past the point of no return on conducting a legal, ethical trial.

If they vote to convict, it will not stand on appeal. But their political goal will already have been accomplished.

Besides the judge getting rich, will there be any actual legal consequences for the judge being so corrupt?

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« Reply #351 on: May 30, 2024, 03:32:05 pm »
The judge cannot do that. Mistrial and worse, for the judge.

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« Reply #352 on: May 30, 2024, 03:46:14 pm »

Besides the judge getting rich, will there be any actual legal consequences for the judge being so corrupt?

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« Reply #353 on: May 30, 2024, 04:18:23 pm »
Jury leaving at 4:30
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« Reply #354 on: May 30, 2024, 04:21:42 pm »


Besides the judge getting rich, will there be any actual legal consequences for the judge being so corrupt?

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« Reply #355 on: May 30, 2024, 04:36:29 pm »
He's undoubtable shopping a book deal and the movie rights to his story "The Juan who took Trump Down"

He'll be hired to give speeches for big bucks that no one attends... The go to way to launder money going to politicians.

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« Reply #356 on: May 30, 2024, 04:44:16 pm »
The judge cannot do that. Mistrial and worse, for the judge.

Apparently the judge is doing exactly what he wants regardless.

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« Reply #357 on: May 30, 2024, 04:45:50 pm »
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There was an audible gasp when Merchan announced that “I received a note from the jury saying that they have a verdict.

I think everyone, myself included, thought it was far more likely that the jury was asking for another instruction or even being dismissed for the day, rather than a Verdict.
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« Reply #358 on: May 30, 2024, 04:48:04 pm »
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Merchan just came back in the room to tell us that the Jury has sent him a note that THEY HAVE A VERDICT and they would like another 30 minutes to fill out the forms.
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« Reply #359 on: May 30, 2024, 04:48:54 pm »
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« Reply #360 on: May 30, 2024, 04:49:52 pm »
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A verdict…I can’t tell you what it is but I do know this: the DA, the defense lawyers and the defendant are all feeling very nervous…I know this from waiting for many verdicts…
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« Reply #361 on: May 30, 2024, 04:51:56 pm »
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« Reply #362 on: May 30, 2024, 04:52:56 pm »
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Merchan just came back in the room to tell us that the Jury has sent him a note that THEY HAVE A VERDICT and they would like another 30 minutes to fill out the forms.

Didn't see that one coming. 
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« Reply #363 on: May 30, 2024, 04:53:55 pm »
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Alvin Bragg, the Soros Funded Manhattan District Attorney has walked into the courtroom for the first time today. He is followed by other members of the prosecution.
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« Reply #364 on: May 30, 2024, 04:54:15 pm »
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« Reply #365 on: May 30, 2024, 04:55:53 pm »
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There is a nervous energy engulfing the courtroom as we sit here and wait for our 12 fellow New Yorkers.

Will they take the word of someone who perjured themself to this very jury, likely multiple times, Michael Cohen, or will they see the facts of the case for what they are, worthy of an acquittal of Donald J Trump.
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« Reply #366 on: May 30, 2024, 04:58:45 pm »
Didn't see that one coming.

Very quick verdict for so many charges....

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« Reply #367 on: May 30, 2024, 05:00:05 pm »
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The ENTIRE Republican Party must rally behind President Trump!

IF acquitted they'll rally behind him, a guilty verdict - I don't see that happening. 

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« Reply #368 on: May 30, 2024, 05:00:18 pm »
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President Trump now leans back in his chair, sitting at about 110ish degree angle.

President Trump now leans over to converse with Todd Blanche. Blanche is covering his mouth while talking. This is a longer conversation than the Bove conversation and Blanche is now leading closer to President Trump.
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« Reply #369 on: May 30, 2024, 05:00:40 pm »
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« Reply #370 on: May 30, 2024, 05:01:18 pm »
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NBC News: The Trump table has gone from smiling to looking sour. They are very serious now and Trump has his arms crossed in front of his chest.

Trump and Blanche occasionally whisper to each other. Trump looks resigned and any levity seems to have dissipated from the defense table. @MSNBC
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« Reply #371 on: May 30, 2024, 05:01:48 pm »
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Merchan is back.

He asks the Trump defense team and Soros funded DA’s office if they are ready to bring out the jury. They answer YES.

Awaiting the jury.
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« Reply #372 on: May 30, 2024, 05:02:35 pm »
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The judge is back. He is reading the note from 4:20 that we reached a verdict and asking for 30 more minutes to file out the form.
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« Reply #373 on: May 30, 2024, 05:04:54 pm »
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Judge is back in. Bringing out jury.
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« Reply #374 on: May 30, 2024, 05:04:54 pm »
Very quick verdict for so many charges....
It is really just a single misdemeanor charge chopped up into 34 charges (all the same) and then fabricated into a felony by fat Alvin.
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« Reply #375 on: May 30, 2024, 05:06:50 pm »
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The Jury is seated. Merchan has got up and is talking to a court officer to his right. He is seated again now.

We received a note from you signed 4:20pm from the foreperson.
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« Reply #376 on: May 30, 2024, 05:07:47 pm »
Guilty verdicts
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« Reply #377 on: May 30, 2024, 05:08:08 pm »
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They are asking if President Trump is GUILTY of all 34 counts…so far through 17, all 17 are yes.
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« Reply #378 on: May 30, 2024, 05:08:48 pm »
Merchan won his case.
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« Reply #379 on: May 30, 2024, 05:09:01 pm »
Guilty on all 34 counts..
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« Reply #381 on: May 30, 2024, 05:10:11 pm »
Reminds me of the OJ verdict...Lord give us strength!
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« Reply #382 on: May 30, 2024, 05:11:01 pm »
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They are now asking all 12 jurors if guilty is in fact their verdict.

All 12 affirm.
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« Reply #384 on: May 30, 2024, 05:12:01 pm »
I hope you Progressives like Civil War, because we’re getting close to one.
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« Reply #385 on: May 30, 2024, 05:12:02 pm »
A very sad day in America.

IMHO the Republican party will not stand behind him but rather ask him to step aside.


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« Reply #386 on: May 30, 2024, 05:12:28 pm »
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Today’s verdict represents the culmination of a legal process that has been bent to the political will of the actors involved: a leftist prosecutor, a partisan judge and a jury reflective of one of the most liberal enclaves in America—all in an effort to “get” Donald Trump.

That this case—involving alleged misdemeanor business records violations from nearly a decade ago—was even brought is a testament to the political debasement of the justice system in places like New York City. This is especially true considering this same district attorney routinely excuses criminal conduct in a way that has endangered law-abiding citizens in his jurisdiction.

It is often said that no one is above the law, but it is also true that no one is below the law. If the defendant were not Donald Trump, this case would never have been brought, the judge would have never issued similar rulings, and the jury would have never returned a guilty verdict.

In America, the rule of law should be applied in a dispassionate, even-handed manner, not become captive to the political agenda of some kangaroo court.
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« Reply #387 on: May 30, 2024, 05:14:34 pm »
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I’ve seen enough…

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« Reply #388 on: May 30, 2024, 05:15:16 pm »
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My statement on President Trump trial verdict:

Today is a shameful day in American history. Democrats cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party on ridiculous charges, predicated on the testimony of a disbarred, convicted felon. This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.

The weaponization of our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden Administration, and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents. 

The American people see this as lawfare, and they know it is wrong—and dangerous. President Trump will rightfully appeal this absurd verdict—and he WILL WIN!
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« Reply #393 on: May 30, 2024, 05:16:59 pm »
This is going to be a wild ride. There is NO WAY this can stand. Congress must step in and put an end to this 'monkey circus' so-called trial.
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« Reply #394 on: May 30, 2024, 05:17:46 pm »
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Today’s verdict represents the culmination of a legal process that has been bent to the political will of the actors involved: a leftist prosecutor, a partisan judge and a jury reflective of one of the most liberal enclaves in America—all in an effort to “get” Donald Trump.

That this case—involving alleged misdemeanor business records violations from nearly a decade ago—was even brought is a testament to the political debasement of the justice system in places like New York City. This is especially true considering this same district attorney routinely excuses criminal conduct in a way that has endangered law-abiding citizens in his jurisdiction.

It is often said that no one is above the law, but it is also true that no one is below the law. If the defendant were not Donald Trump, this case would never have been brought, the judge would have never issued similar rulings, and the jury would have never returned a guilty verdict.

In America, the rule of law should be applied in a dispassionate, even-handed manner, not become captive to the political agenda of some kangaroo court.
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Ok Ron is still standing behind him.  Any others???

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Thank you fat Alvin. You just made me change my mind about voting for Trump.  I'm  all in for him.  You screwed the pooch and just elected the 47 president
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The case in New York against President Trump has never been about justice. Democrats are weaponizing the justice system against a political opponent.

Elections are decided in voting booths, not courtrooms.

President Trump will keep fighting to get America back on track.
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Blanche is asking Merchan for a sentencing hearing in late July as President Trump faces other charges in Florida.

The “Honorable Judge” give a July 11th @ 10am time for sentencing.
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