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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #250 on: May 29, 2024, 12:10:39 pm »
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If they have questions, they will write note to judge.

I wrote a note to a judge once while serving on a jury.  I asked a question about a photo.  The judge provided no help since it is something the prosecution should have brought up during the trial.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #251 on: May 29, 2024, 12:10:50 pm »
Robert De Niro 'got MAGAed' yesterday: Trump

Trump also weighed in again on actor Robert De Niro's bizarre Biden campaign speech and clash with protesters outside the courthouse yesterday, saying the star "got MAGAed."

“He’s a fool — he’s a broken down fool," the former prez said of De Niro, who was heckled and chased down by Trump supporters.

"Standing out there, he got MAGAed," he said.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #252 on: May 29, 2024, 12:11:50 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 29, 2024, 12:07:07 pm
Not yet.  They have to dine on their steak and lobster supper and enjoy a night in their 5-star hotel room first.

I was thinking shortly after lunch.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #253 on: May 29, 2024, 12:11:53 pm »
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Report: One Juror Appears Sympathetic to Donald Trump

Wendell Husebø 29 May 2024

One juror who sat for six weeks listening to the evidence presented in a Manhattan courtroom against former President Donald Trump reportedly appears sympathetic towards him.

Thus, the need for the six alternates.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #254 on: May 29, 2024, 12:15:54 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 29, 2024, 12:07:07 pm
Not yet.  They have to dine on their steak and lobster supper and enjoy a night in their 5-star hotel room first.

I anticipate a quick verdict, but they'll at least get another free lunch.

All the media needs to get in place, the police in place in case of rioters (though doubtful) and his SS fully prepared.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #255 on: May 29, 2024, 12:16:07 pm »
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Juan Merchan doesn’t care if any conviction gets appealed. He doesn’t care about any scrutiny or outrage about his unhinged conduct and lawless orders.

He wants (1) his name in the history books as judge in first criminal conviction of a former president and (2) help his daughter drum up more lucrative business deals with Democrats.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #256 on: May 29, 2024, 12:18:33 pm »
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Juan Merchan doesn’t care if any conviction gets appealed. He doesn’t care about any scrutiny or outrage about his unhinged conduct and lawless orders.

He wants (1) his name in the history books as judge in first criminal conviction of a former president and (2) help his daughter drum up more lucrative business deals with Democrats.

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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #257 on: May 29, 2024, 12:24:59 pm »
‘Misleading The Jury’: Alan Dershowitz Says That Alvin Bragg’s Team Told 2 Lies During Closing Arguments

HAROLD HUTCHISON  |  May 28, 2024  |  7:12 PM ET

Noted attorney Alan Dershowitz on Tuesday accused prosecutors from the office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg of telling two lies to jurors during closing arguments in the trial of former President Donald Trump.

Closing arguments in Trump’s trial based on the indictment of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records secured by Bragg in March 2023 took place Tuesday. Dershowitz said on Tuesday’s episode of “The Dershow” on Rumble that prosecutors misled the jury about Michael Cohen’s claims regarding Trump’s motives for making the $130,000 payout to porn star Stormy Daniels as part of a confidentiality agreement being corroborated.  .  .

https://dailycaller.com/2024/05/28/alan-dershowitz-braggs-team-told-two-lies-jury-closing-arguments/
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #258 on: May 29, 2024, 12:30:28 pm »
Jury only in till 4:30 p.m. today.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #259 on: May 29, 2024, 12:39:57 pm »
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Jury only in till 4:30 p.m. today.
Well, you know they have to break for lunch and wait awhile to actually seem like they did some sort of deliberating. 

Perhaps like @Hoodat   suggested -- they want another steak and lobster dinner tonight, breakfast tomorrow, lunch and then they'll present the verdict - they could also stretch it out until Friday.  It all depends on how quickly they all want to leave this sham of a trial.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #260 on: May 29, 2024, 12:41:28 pm »
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Secret Service met with Riker’s Island to prep for possible Trump jailing – report
May 29, 2024 | Chris Donaldson

The odds are so stacked against former President Donald J. Trump in the Stormy Daniels sham trial that the Secret Service is already making arrangements for his imprisonment.

According to a report from CBS News, representatives from the USSS have “met with local jail officials” to prepare for the possibility that rabidly partisan Judge Juan Merchan could order him to be locked up if the jury comes back with a conviction.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/05/29/secret-service-met-with-rikers-island-to-prep-for-possible-trump-jailing-report-1462321/

The Clinton's MO:

1)  Get him locked up in a jail cell

2)  Get him to commit 'suicide' or initiate some other medical emergency.


(See:  Jim McDougal, Jeffrey Epstein)
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« Reply #261 on: May 29, 2024, 12:45:04 pm »
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It is still unclear how Merchan will let us know the jury has reached a verdict.

Will they release smoke through the courthouse chimney in a Pope-esque manner?
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« Reply #262 on: May 29, 2024, 01:14:47 pm »
Legal Experts: The Trump Trial Jury Instructions Are Not Normal

Katie Pavlich  |  May 29, 2024 11:15 AM

Closing arguments in the trial of former President Donald Trump in New York City, where he is charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, have concluded and Judge Juan Merchan has given the jury their instructions. The instructions were given verbally and jurors won't receive printed copies, although they can ask questions.

According to legal experts, Merchan's standards for a conviction are abnormal and do not require jurors to reach a unanimous decision on the charges. Further, jurors don't have to determine what crime was committed.

"Judge Merchan has ruled that the jury does not have to agree on what that crime is. The jury could split into three groups of four on which of the three crimes were being concealed and Merchan will still treat it as a unanimous verdict," George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley, who has been inside the courtroom, writes. "The jury has been given little substantive information on these crimes, and Merchan has denied a legal expert who could have shown that there was no federal election violation. This case should have been dismissed for lack of evidence or a cognizable crime."  .  .

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2024/05/29/the-trump-trial-jury-instructions-are-not-normal-n2639670

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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #263 on: May 29, 2024, 01:23:06 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 29, 2024, 12:41:28 pm
The Clinton's MO:

1)  Get him locked up in a jail cell

2)  Get him to commit 'suicide' or initiate some other medical emergency.


(See:  Jim McDougal, Jeffrey Epstein)

This has bee my fear .... I'm praying that Trump prevails and he is protected from evil.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #264 on: May 29, 2024, 01:47:43 pm »
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This has bee my fear .... I'm praying that Trump prevails and he is protected from evil.
Yes, the last thing the MAGA cult needs is a martyr.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #265 on: May 29, 2024, 02:15:47 pm »
LMAO...The Feds are involved in this..

JD Vance Calls for Federal Investigation into Judge Juan Merchan’s ‘Conduct’ in Trump Trial

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) is calling for a federal investigation into Justice Juan Merchan, arguing he deprived former President Donald Trump of First Amendment rights in the Manhattan business records trial.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/05/29/jd-vance-calls-federal-investigation-judge-juan-merchan-conduct-trump-trial/
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« Reply #266 on: May 29, 2024, 03:08:41 pm »
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Jury just sent a note in the Trump criminal trial.

The jury rang the courtroom.

An officer went back into the jury room.

The D.A. team has entered the room.
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Judge Merchan has taken the bench.

He says they have received a note.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #268 on: May 29, 2024, 03:14:12 pm »
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LMAO...The Feds are involved in this..

JD Vance Calls for Federal Investigation into Judge Juan Merchan’s ‘Conduct’ in Trump Trial





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« Reply #269 on: May 29, 2024, 03:16:02 pm »
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The note has four requests: three on David Pecker's testimony and one on Michael Cohen's testimony on the Trump Tower meeting.
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« Reply #270 on: May 29, 2024, 03:19:23 pm »
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« Reply #271 on: May 29, 2024, 03:21:43 pm »
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...The breakdown is
1. Pecker testimony regarding telephone conversation with Trump

2. Pecker's testimony on the decision not to fund McDougal’s life rights

3. Pecker's testimony on the Trump Tower meeting

4. Cohen testimony on the Trump Tower meeting
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« Reply #272 on: May 29, 2024, 03:26:34 pm »
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...The breakdown is
1. Pecker testimony regarding telephone conversation with Trump

2. Pecker's testimony on the decision not to fund McDougal’s life rights

3. Pecker's testimony on the Trump Tower meeting

4. Cohen testimony on the Trump Tower meeting

So let me break it down into even smaller parts......

The jailing of a former POTUS hinges on two things.....

The honor and honesty of the publisher of the National Enquirer

Testimony of a serial liar,  perjurer,  and newly ID'ed thief Micharl Cohen. 

We're light years past Bizzaro-World.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #273 on: May 29, 2024, 03:34:40 pm »
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https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1795871478572896610

Well, it's  a little late for that.  They aren't going to let him leave the court house, let alone NY.  Trump's biggest mistake I think may soon be realized; he should have bowed out and backed DeSantis who would have pardoned him if he was convicted.
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