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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2024, 12:16:36 pm »
I am going to have to figure out a different way to do this especially for the prosecutors term..they are expected to take 4hrs in closing ...maybe just a summation

I can save you some time. Here is my summation:  :poo:
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2024, 12:17:25 pm »

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Blanche now bringing when this was happening in Cohen’s life. His house and office was just raided and as Costello testified to, he was suicidal.

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Blanche: “Cohen had an axe to grind with the President of the United States.”

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Blanche: “You should ask yourself, what proof is there beyond Mr. Cohen’s word?”

More Cohen to Davidson: “The amount was just not really that significant.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2024, 12:31:28 pm »
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Blanche: There is another time that Cohen lied to you about a call he said he made to President Trump per Melania.

There are no calls to President Trump on that day from Mr. Cohen that day. None of them.

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The government has a key witness that we caught in a lie about the 8:02 phone call.

Is there the absolute proof that he lied about everything else he said to you? No. For that we have an oath, and the oath matters. He lied.

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We know it was actually about a 14 year old, and Cohen changed his testimony…that is PER-JUR-Y!

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Blanche on the October 24, 2016 call:

“Cohen’s sworn testimony, WAS A LIE!”

“He told you he talked to President Trump at 8:02pm about Stormy Daniels, that was a lie and he got CAUGHT, RED HANDED!”

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Blanche now getting into the phone records that the Gov’t showed to try to make Cohen seem credible. 96 second call coming…

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Blanche now bringing up the NDA, pointing out that Donald Trump never signed it. “It was only Mr. Cohen that attached President Trump’s name to the agreement, not Donald Trump.”

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Blanche: You know that there was an attorney-client relationship between Costello and Cohen, and what Cohen told you was a lie.

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Blanche: Cohen lied to you about Bob Costello. He told you that he never engaged him and that he found him sketchy. He said he spoke to him about 10 times, it was actually over 70. That was a lie.

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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2024, 12:33:29 pm »
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Blanche: “When you come in here and take an oath, that matters, that has to matter. And Mr. Cohen lied to you!”

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“Michael Cohen is like an MVP of Liars!”

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Blanche: “if there is anything we have learned through this trial, Michael Cohen does not take that oath seriously. He’s lied under oath. He lied to his banker. Lied to his kid”

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Blanche: You can see all the people that President Trump spoke with that day, you have the phone records. No call on that day from Mr. Cohen.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2024, 12:47:11 pm »
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Blanche: “You know that Cohen is lying to benefit and protect Mr. Cohen period.”

10 reasons why you have reasonable doubt:

 1) Invoices- Cohen created the invoices and President Trump had no intent to defraud. No proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

2) No proof that President Trump saw anything with the vouchers.
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3) There is absolutely no evidence of any intent to defraud. He disclosed it to the office of Govt ethics. Similarly, there is no proof to influence the 2016 election.

4) No intent to Commit or Conceal
      “There is no falsification of business records, period. And anything the people try to talk about regarding that is wrong.”

5) No evidence to illegally influence the 2016 Election

6) AMI would have run the story

7) McDougal did not want her story published

8) Stormy Daniels’ story was already public

9) Manipulation of Evidence
  “The Gov’t has made mistakes in presenting this trial, and we have caught them”

1) Inaudible
2) October 24 call
3) Mr. Cohen’s phone
     -They didn’t tell you that Cohen actually wiped his phone and synched his phone to his laptop. You didn’t see any evidence that the laptop was searched.
- We know that the Sept 6 recording was synched.
-how can you trust that it’s reliable. YOU CAN’T. You have to rely on Mr. Cohen again.

10) Cohen is the Embodiment of Reasonable Doubt

“Michael Cohen is a human lie machine.”

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“Cohen made up that call, he made up how it was received and there is nothing you can trust about what Cohen said”

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Blanche now playing audio of Cohen saying how delighted he’ll be when Trump goes to jail and how he thanks and spent time with Alvin Bragg (another lie).
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2024, 12:47:40 pm »
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“Michael Cohen is the GLOAT, he is the Greatest Liar of All-Time.”
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2024, 12:51:17 pm »
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“Michael Cohen came in here, he raised his right hand and lied to you repeatedly.”

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Blanche: “Thank you for paying attention. This is not a referendum on President Trump, who you voted for in 2016, 2020 or who you’ll vote for in 2024. This has to do with the evidence you heard in this courtroom. If you do that, this is very quick and easy not guilty verdict. Thank you.”

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Blanche sits back down and Merchan dismisses for lunch. We will be back at 2pm for the Soros funded DA’s summation.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2024, 12:51:47 pm »
I can save you some time. Here is my summation:  :poo:

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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2024, 12:53:10 pm »
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Here are the main arguments Trump's lawyer made so far in his summation
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Trump’s lawyer Todd Blanche has tried to poke holes Tuesday morning in the case charging Trump with illegally fudging business records to cover up a hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election.

Here are a few of the arguments the lawyer has made so far in a sprawling, two-and-a-half-hour closing statement.

— The prosecution’s star witness, Michael Cohen, is a “liar” whose word cannot be trusted.

— Cohen is the only person who gave first-hand testimony about Trump’s “intent” in 2016, when Daniels received the $130,000 hush money, Blanche argued. “What President Trump knew in 2016 you only know from one source, and that’s Michael Cohen,” Blanche said.

— The records were not “falsified” because they cited legal services and Cohen was Trump’s lawyer at the time. “The ‘scheme’ was to book a legal expense as a legal expense,” Blanche said. “That’s absurd.”

— Even the checks to Cohen signed by Trump are not evidence that Trump knew about the scheme, because Trump was “busy” running the country and did not always pay attention to what he was signing.

— Trump’s alleged hush money payments with the help of the National Enquirer were not a “conspiracy” to influence the campaign but rather the normal type of relationship with a media outlet that happens in every campaign. "Every campaign in this country is a conspiracy to promote a candidate,” he said.

— Stormy Daniels and her lawyer Keith Davidson were opportunists who tried to “extort” Trump with their story about Daniels’ sex tryst with the real estate mogul in 2006.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2024, 12:56:22 pm »
CNN, MSNBC Largely Ignore Robert De Niro Presser

Left-leaning news outlets CNN and MSNBC did not play Robert De Niro’s wild anti-Trump speech outside of the Manhattan courtroom in its entirety, while Fox News aired it for the world to see.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/05/28/cnn-msnbc-largely-ignore-robert-de-niro-presser/
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2024, 01:09:38 pm »
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Soros funded DA’s office is now admonishing Blanche to Merchan about Blanche saying at the end that “You can’t send Donald Trump to jail with the lack of evidence and this testimony.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2024, 01:10:27 pm »
I can't do a 4hr play by play...I will post summations...


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Prosecutors will deliver closing statements after the lunch break

Prosecutors will deliver their closing arguments when we return from the lunch break at around 2 p.m.

Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass estimated their summations will take between four and four and a half hours, meaning the trial could go late today.

Before the break, Trump lawyer Todd Blanche wrapped up his closing statement, which clocked in at about 3.5 hours.

Trump raised his left hand in a fist but did not answer questions from reporters as he left the courtroom for lunch around 12:52 p.m.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2024, 01:10:41 pm »
Let's see the Prosecution's legal alchemy to turn misdemeanors into felonies.
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Re: LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict
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Merchan asks Blanche about why he mentioned prison. Merchan says it’s outrageous and highly inappropriate. It’s hard for me to imagine that that was not intentional. I will give the jury instruction on that. I will see you at 2pm.
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« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2024, 01:16:57 pm »
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Trump campaign mocks ‘washed-up actor’ De Niro after Biden camp presser in NYC: 'bad idea'

The Trump campaign on Monday slammed the Biden-Harris press conference in New York City where actor Robert De Niro criticized the former president and his supporters

"After months of saying the politics had nothing to do with this trial, they showed up and made a campaign event out of a lower Manhattan trial day for President Trump. In fact, Biden's cronies had a printed out campaign sign saying Biden, Harris. So why the change?" Jason Miller, senior advisor to the Trump campaign told reporters Tuesday in Manhattan.

"President Trump's numbers continue to rise. And the best that Biden can do is roll out a washed up actor," Miller said.

"Last week, President Trump spoke in the Bronx where at over 25,000 people show up to rally around him. And the best the Biden campaign could do was put out a Web video with Robert De Niro. There is nothing behind the Biden campaign. Their numbers are in the toilet. Kamala Harris is a terrible alternative and it's all an attempt to try to turn around the Biden campaign," Miller said.

"This is all politics. If you don't think there's politics, why did the Democrats wheel out a retread like Robert De Niro to try to change the subject? You can see the look on the Biden campaign staffers faces. They knew this was a bad idea," he said .
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« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2024, 01:32:28 pm »
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Judge rips Trump attorney over 'outrageous' statement to jurors

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan ripped Trump attorney Todd Blanche for suggesting to jurors that the former president could be sent to prison if convicted.

Blanche, in his closing argument, had told the jury: "You cannot send someone to prison based on the words of Michael Cohen."

Prosecutors objected and the judge sustained it, striking the comment from the record, but jurors still heard it.

After jurors were sent out for lunch, prosecutors claimed the statement "was a blatant and wholly inappropriate effort to call sympathy for their client."

A furious Merchan told Blanche that, as a longtime attorney and former prosecutor, he should have known better than to make the "outrageous" and “highly inappropriate" comment -- as jurors are not allowed to take punishment into consideration when deliberating.

“That statement was outrageous,” the judge said.

“You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. It’s hard for me to imagine that that was accidental.”

Merchan said he would talk to jurors about the exchange when trial resumes at 2 p.m.
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7 minutes ago
'Lock Merchan up' crowd yells outside courthouse before Trump's children speak

"The Freedom Chariot," a white van with American and Dominican flags, just drove up Centre Street in Manhattan, blasting drill music, getting a huge response from the growing crowd outside the courthouse.

People are railing against the judge, shouting, "Merchan is corrupt" and “Lock Merchan up."

Protestors are also relentlessly heckling MSNBC.

Eric Trump, his wife Lara, and Donald Trump Jr. are set to speak here any minute.


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Donald Trump Jr. slams Biden campaign for 'political fundraiser' outside court

A highly animated Donald Trump Jr. just spoke outside the courthouse, slamming the Biden campaign for its Robert De Niro-led press conference across the street earlier today.

"It's a witch hunt they're using as a political fundraiser," he said.

"They want power at any and all costs, your rights be damned," he added before his brother Eric took to the mic.
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« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2024, 01:44:09 pm »
Either way the verdict turns out, that is going to be an historic moment for our country.

I'm praying that justice will prevail.

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Trump is back in the courtroom
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Donald Trump has returned to the courtroom following the lunch break.

Now Manhattan prosecutor Joshua Steinglass will begin the defense's closing arguments, which could last more than four hours.
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After agreeing to Jury instructions with Todd Blanche and the Soros funded DA’s office, Merchan has called for the jury.
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Biden, Trump supporters slinging insults at each other outside courthouse, some blowing kisses

Things are escalating between Trump and Biden supporters outside the courthouse — about 15 people altogether — with Biden fans chanting "anti Christ."

Trump supporters are blowing kisses at the other side, with some saying, “If Jesus loved you he would give you teeth.”

Police presence is increasing but they haven’t gotten involved.
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« Reply #74 on: May 28, 2024, 02:08:33 pm »
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The Soros funded DA’s will begin by siting Matthew Colangelo’s opening statement about this case at its core being a conspiracy.
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