Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah...
(some people can't smell 'fish' in a seafood market)

They stole it...AGAIN!
But after years of the MSM pissing on people's heads, some actually think its raining.

The view from afar seems a little clearer. (and the McCainiacs seem to be alive and well)

[catfish1957]

Yeah...
(some people can't smell 'fish' in a seafood market)

They stole it...AGAIN!
But after years of the MSM pissing on people's heads, some actually think its raining.

The view from afar seems a little clearer. (and the McCainiacs seem to be alive and well)

Especially fishy is that 147, 960. (i.e over 5% of voters somehow decided to vote for POTUS, but not the senatorial choice.  I call Bull Shit!!!!

[Bigun]

Yeah...
(some people can't smell 'fish' in a seafood market)

They stole it...AGAIN!
But after years of the MSM pissing on people's heads, some actually think its raining.

The view from afar seems a little clearer. (and the McCainiacs seem to be alive and well)

And it pizzes me off royally!  Some people are too F'n stupid to be free!

[HikerGuy83]

It's a damned shame that the McCainiacs in Arizona and Mitch McConnell have been allowed to do to this great lady. If my saying that offends you tough s&*t!

Offend.  How would that offend.

It's the dynamic of Arizona.

The McStains in the state could not hold back Donald Trump, nor prevent pick-ups in the AZ state house and AZ senate.

More than anything, Lake regularly irritated people who otherwise would have supported a conservative candidate.

She lost.  That's what is offensive. 

Gallego is headed to the senate and he's going to be tough to root out.  That is even more offensive.

If she tries to run for another office, I am going to be really offended.

[HikerGuy83]

Especially fishy is that 147, 960. (i.e over 5% of voters somehow decided to vote for POTUS, but not the senatorial choice.  I call Bull Shit!!!!

You follow her campaign ?

You don't sideswipe the head of the state GOP and not piss people off.

Lake is going away quietly.  If she thought there was a chance she got cheated.....she'd be in there fighting.

Or....maybe.....she realizes that she's cried wolf just a few to many times.

The offset isn't new for her. 

Call what you want, you can also call Gallego....Senator Gallego.

And that is B.S.  Never should have happened.

But you keep screaming it.  We need more people talking down elections around here.  I really helps us get people elected.

[Bigun]

Offend.  How would that offend.

It's the dynamic of Arizona.

The McStains in the state could not hold back Donald Trump, nor prevent pick-ups in the AZ state house and AZ senate.

More than anything, Lake regularly irritated people who otherwise would have supported a conservative candidate.

She lost. That's what is offensive. 

Gallego is headed to the senate and he's going to be tough to root out.  That is even more offensive.

If she tries to run for another office, I am going to be really offended.

No! She did not lose! She had yet another office STOLEN from her.

[HikerGuy83]

Yeah...
(some people can't smell 'fish' in a seafood market)

They stole it...AGAIN!
But after years of the MSM pissing on people's heads, some actually think its raining.

The view from afar seems a little clearer. (and the McCainiacs seem to be alive and well)

Are you not the one who keeps saying we are a blue state in spite of being countered continually ?

I think you lost that argument on election night.

And the McStains only have power when we give it to them.  T-boning the head of the state party (and consequently being booed off the stage by the state committeeman), continuing to scream fraud.....instead of just pursuing it in court, and ignoring outer counties all cost her. 

[Bigun]

Are you not the one who keeps saying we are a blue state in spite of being countered continually ?

I think you lost that argument on election night.

And the McStains only have power when we give it to them.  T-boning the head of the state party (and consequently being booed off the stage by the state committeeman), continuing to scream fraud.....instead of just pursuing it in court, and ignoring outer counties all cost her.

Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat

I say it is blue!

[HikerGuy83]

No! She did not lose! She had yet another office STOLEN from her.

Oh she lost alright.

From what I recall, you don't live here. 

She was polling in the toilet long before Nov 5. 

I am surprised it was as close as it was. 

And let's be clear......If you look through this forum, I started a couple of threads on Gallego (and what a lying jerk he is). 

I wish Lake would have won.  Besides his crazy ideology, it is embarrassing. 

But you don't get to do things "your way" and not expect consequences.

[Bigun]

Oh she lost alright.

From what I recall, you don't live here. 

She was polling in the toilet long before Nov 5. 

I am surprised it was as close as it was. 

And let's be clear......If you look through this forum, I started a couple of threads on Gallego (and what a lying jerk he is). 

I wish Lake would have won.  Besides his crazy ideology, it is embarrassing. 

But you don't get to do things "your way" and not expect consequences.

I don't reside in Arizona myself but I have close relatives who live in a VERY red area of the state so I'm kept in the loop constantly. You can ignore the BS that occurs in YOUR county if you want but I will not!

[HikerGuy83]

Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat

I say it is blue!

Then you'd have to say Kansas is blue too. 

They've had more democratic governors in the last 40 years than republicans...by far (and one of the repubican governors was as milquetoast RINO as you can get).

They've had democratic SOS.

Why ?

Because of the massive infighting in the GOP.  I lived it for many years as a PC there.

And we have the same thing here.

In fact, as we go into our LD elections, we have the same thing going on.  It is incredible that people want to blame others for their not performing when the answer is right before them. 

Trump rocked it.

We now have stronger majorities in the state house and state senate.  We are developing great candidates. 

Hobbs has not chance in 2026.....

And when Mark Kelly comes up for re-election......Mark Lamb is going to steamroll his sorry fanny.

The party is recovering, I hope from the influence of John McStain.  We talk about it all the time.

Tuesday was great.

But we are just getting started.

[HikerGuy83]

I don't reside in Arizona myself but I have close relatives who live in a VERY red area of the state so I'm kept in the loop constantly. You can ignore the BS that occurs in YOUR county if you want but I will not!

Have fun in court. 

Sounds like Lake won't be there with you.

You and your relatives can ignore the polling all you want.  The writing was on the wall long before November 5th.  Trump was leading.  She was trailing....badly.

Those are the facts.

[cato potatoe]

And it pizzes me off royally!  Some people are too F'n stupid to be free!

Place the blame where it lies.  She told McCain Republicans to “get the hell out.”  So, a sizable chunk of moderates went over to Gallego.  She made enemies on the right also.  A capable politician would be more strategic.  Trump threw a bone to every wing of the party.  He even spoke at the Libertarian convention.

[HikerGuy83]

Especially fishy is that 147, 960. (i.e over 5% of voters somehow decided to vote for POTUS, but not the senatorial choice.  I call Bull Shit!!!!

The polls told you that long before it happened.

Somehow you thought that wouldn't happen ?

[catfish1957]

You follow her campaign ?

You don't sideswipe the head of the state GOP and not piss people off.

Lake is going away quietly.  If she thought there was a chance she got cheated.....she'd be in there fighting.

Or....maybe.....she realizes that she's cried wolf just a few to many times.

The offset isn't new for her. 

Call what you want, you can also call Gallego....Senator Gallego.

And that is B.S.  Never should have happened.

But you keep screaming it.  We need more people talking down elections around here.  I really helps us get people elected.

My POV was from an independent observer, based on 50 years of my own political obsession, I can honestly and accurately say that  people just normally don't skip down ballot at a rate of 5%.  But....   I'll leave, and you can stick this thread where the sun doesn't shine.  Was getting bored with it anyway. 

Buh bye....

[HikerGuy83]

Place the blame where it lies.  She told McCain Republicans to “get the hell out.”  So, a sizable chunk of moderates went over to Gallego.  She made enemies on the right also.  A capable politician would be more strategic.  Trump threw a bone to every wing of the party.  He even spoke at the Libertarian convention.

He was running adds with verified republicans saying they would vote for him.

He tried to come off as being more centrist.  He changed his position on the border and it appears to have appealed to many in the middle.

There was little she could do as she had painted herself into a corner on so many issues......issues she seemed so capable of handling in 2022.

[HikerGuy83]

My POV was from an independent observer, based on 50 years of my own political obsession, I can honestly and accurately say that  people just normally don't skip down ballot at a rate of 5%.  But....   I'll leave, and you can stick this thread where the sun doesn't shine.  Was getting bored with it anyway. 

Buh bye....

I guess those polls just didn't give you a hint of what might happen.

Have a day.

[Bigun]

I guess those polls just didn't give you a hint of what might happen.

Have a day.

Polls say whatever the people who commission them want them to say.

You have a nice day.

[HikerGuy83]

Polls say whatever the people who commission them want them to say.

You have a nice day.

In this case it was polls that showed Trump up Big and Lake down Big.

That doesn't jive with your claim.  Not at all.

[DB]

I don't reside in Arizona myself but I have close relatives who live in a VERY red area of the state so I'm kept in the loop constantly. You can ignore the BS that occurs in YOUR county if you want but I will not!

I voted for Kari but I don't trust her. I can't reconcile her intense support of Obama, to the point of going door to door campaigning for him back in 2012, and what she says now. One of those two things isn't what it claims to be.

[Bigun]

I voted for Kari but I don't trust her. I can't reconcile her intense support of Obama, to the point of going door to door campaigning for him back in 2012, and what she says now. One of those two things isn't what it claims to be.

That I can understand @DB but the blatant, in you face, FRAUD pisses me off! What pisses me off even more is that the legislature isn't doing a damned thing about it.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

He was running adds with verified republicans saying they would vote for him.

He tried to come off as being more centrist.  He changed his position on the border and it appears to have appealed to many in the middle.

That is exactly what Kamala did, keeping TDS Rinos around and moving to the middle.

Didn't help Harris, so why does that help Gallego?

Bad argument to say why Lake lost.

[Fishrrman]

I'm the guy who has repeatedly claimed that Arizona is a blue state.

And I stand by what I've said -- regardless of the fact that Mr. Trump won there by a good margin on Nov. 5th.

It seems impossible for Republicans to win the Senate there.

And as Bigun posted above in reply 307:
"Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat"

If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

To those Briefers IN Arizona:
Sometimes it takes someone observing from a distance to see how things really are...

[IsailedawayfromFR]

If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

so you believe that no cheating occurred?  Righhhhhhht.

[HikerGuy83]

I'm the guy who has repeatedly claimed that Arizona is a blue state.

And I stand by what I've said -- regardless of the fact that Mr. Trump won there by a good margin on Nov. 5th.

It seems impossible for Republicans to win the Senate there.

And as Bigun posted above in reply 307:
"Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat"

If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

To those Briefers IN Arizona:
Sometimes it takes someone observing from a distance to see how things really are...

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think Kansas is a blue state ?

[HikerGuy83]

[/quote]

If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

You missed the part where we improved majorities in both the AZ senate and AZ house ?

We elected Trump Bigley !

We have been running crap candidates for a while now.  McSally, Masters, and Lake.  In Lake's case, it was a crap campaign.

[Smokin Joe]

Are you not the one who keeps saying we are a blue state in spite of being countered continually ?

WRONG!
No, I are not the one who said Arizona is a blue state. Find it, quote it, and it shouldn't be hard if I
"keep saying it".

You can't, because that did not happen.

[HikerGuy83]

WRONG!
No, I are not the one who said Arizona is a blue state. Find it, quote it, and it shouldn't be hard if I
"keep saying it".

You can't, because that did not happen.

And I apologize.

I went back and looked and I confused you with another poster.

My bad.  My mistake.

Again...apologies.

[HikerGuy83]

Meanwhile: over in PA, the democrats are openly trying to cheat.

[Bigun]

Meanwhile: over in PA, the democrats are openly trying to cheat.

Trying???

[HikerGuy83]

That is exactly what Kamala did, keeping TDS Rinos around and moving to the middle.

Didn't help Harris, so why does that help Gallego?

Bad argument to say why Lake lost.

That is exactly what Kamala did, keeping TDS Rinos around and moving to the middle.

Didn't help Harris, so why does that help Gallego?

Bad argument to say why Lake lost.

I don't recall saying it was why Lake lost.  It was a statement about his tactics and evidence that he had some form of republican support.

An AZ businessman is NOT Liz Cheney.

Huge difference.

Lake lost for a host of reasons.

As indicated, polling showed her way down (farther than what she wound up) even as Trump was pulling away from Harris.

People seem surprised she lost.

I'm not.

[Bigun]

I don't recall saying it was why Lake lost.  It was a statement about his tactics and evidence that he had some form of republican support.

An AZ businessman is NOT Liz Cheney.

Huge difference.

Lake lost for a host of reasons.

As indicated, polling showed her way down (farther than what she wound up) even as Trump was pulling away from Harris.

People seem surprised she lost.

I'm not.

Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Kari won't be the one speaking to reporters.

President Trump Selects Karoline Leavitt to Serve as White House Press Secretary
President-elect Donald Trump has chosen the person who will do battle with the White House press corps for his second term.

On Friday, Trump announced in a statement that Karoline Leavitt, the 27-year-old national press secretary of his presidential campaign, would serve as his press secretary for his upcoming administration.

She will become the youngest person ever to hold the position. The previous youngest press secretary was the late Ron Ziegler, who served under former President Richard Nixon.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/breaking-president-trump-selects-karoline-leavitt-serve-as/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.

why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.

As Trump was in the lead by several points, Kari Lake was also making strides and cutting down on her opponent’s lead as Arizona counties continued dumping vote totals that were favorable to Lake in the days following the election.

However, that changed last weekend despite expectations the trend would continue as more Republican votes were counted and Lake would win in a close election.

Democrat Ruben Gallego currently leads Kari Lake by nearly 80,000 votes in the Senate race, with over 98% of the votes counted statewide. Meanwhile, President Trump has a more than 185,000 vote lead over Kamala Harris.

This makes no sense, especially when you take into account other races in Maricopa County and statewide where Trump or Lake-Endorsed candidates won.

Take, for example, the countywide race for Maricopa County Recorder, where Kari Lake-Endorsed Republican Justin Heap won by about 80,000 votes. Likewise, President Trump took a 70,000 vote lead in Maricopa.

However, In the same county, where over 60% of Arizona voters reside, Kari Lake apparently lost by over 100,000 votes.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/watch-dinesh-dsouza-makes-case-investigating-kari-lakes/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I'm the guy who has repeatedly claimed that Arizona is a blue state.

And I stand by what I've said -- regardless of the fact that Mr. Trump won there by a good margin on Nov. 5th.

It seems impossible for Republicans to win the Senate there.

And as Bigun posted above in reply 307:
"Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat"

If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

To those Briefers IN Arizona:
Sometimes it takes someone observing from a distance to see how things really are...

Yep, Dinesh is at some distance and is honing in on 'how things really are...'
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,514851.msg3104028.html#msg3104028

[Bigun]

Texas is a red state; hasn't elected a Democrat to any statewide office in thirty years. Arizona is NOT a red state but I sincerely hope they get there soon!

[HikerGuy83]

Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.

Florida is just as fast as I understand it.

But it happens because we have people in office who simply like pissing off the right.

He's leaving.

BTW: PA is still counting.

[HikerGuy83]

Texas is a red state; hasn't elected a Democrat to any statewide office in thirty years. Arizona is NOT a red state but I sincerely hope they get there soon!

Then Kansas isn't a red state either.

Nor is Montana

[HikerGuy83]

why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.

As Trump was in the lead by several points, Kari Lake was also making strides and cutting down on her opponent’s lead as Arizona counties continued dumping vote totals that were favorable to Lake in the days following the election.

However, that changed last weekend despite expectations the trend would continue as more Republican votes were counted and Lake would win in a close election.

Democrat Ruben Gallego currently leads Kari Lake by nearly 80,000 votes in the Senate race, with over 98% of the votes counted statewide. Meanwhile, President Trump has a more than 185,000 vote lead over Kamala Harris.

This makes no sense, especially when you take into account other races in Maricopa County and statewide where Trump or Lake-Endorsed candidates won.

Take, for example, the countywide race for Maricopa County Recorder, where Kari Lake-Endorsed Republican Justin Heap won by about 80,000 votes. Likewise, President Trump took a 70,000 vote lead in Maricopa.

However, In the same county, where over 60% of Arizona voters reside, Kari Lake apparently lost by over 100,000 votes.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/watch-dinesh-dsouza-makes-case-investigating-kari-lakes/

Blah blah blah blah blah.....
Blah blah....

Polling showed the others tight and winning  while Lake was getting her ass kicked. 

The voting shifted right and she experienced some of that too. 

But was to far in the hole to start. 

For those of us watching her....it was not a surprise. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Blah blah blah blah blah.....
Blah blah....

Polling showed the others tight and winning  while Lake was getting her ass kicked. 

The voting shifted right and she experienced some of that too. 

But was to far in the hole to start. 

For those of us watching her....it was not a surprise.

I am not surprised. 

[HikerGuy83]

why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.

Things broke for Trump right at the end.  AZ is getting back to it's roots.

If she thinks she was cheated, she's not saying it (a wise move).  It's off to get the data analyzed and the courts involved if she thinks she has a case.  I certainly wish her the best if that is the case.

However, speculating like Dinesh does nothing but feed the left who have fed upon the "election denier" garbage for four years. 

When Dinesh or Lake has a case....bring it forward.

Until then, it's not helping. 

[Bigun]

I am not surprised.

I'm not either! Not one bit! This shit will never stop as long as people continue to allow it.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Things broke for Trump right at the end.  AZ is getting back to it's roots.

If she thinks she was cheated, she's not saying it (a wise move).  It's off to get the data analyzed and the courts involved if she thinks she has a case.  I certainly wish her the best if that is the case.

However, speculating like Dinesh does nothing but feed the left who have fed upon the "election denier" garbage for four years. 

When Dinesh or Lake has a case....bring it forward.

Until then, it's not helping.

bring a case?

You most obviously did not watch irrefutable evidence in '2000 mules'.

[HikerGuy83]

bring a case?

You most obviously did not watch irrefutable evidence in '2000 mules'.

You are correct.  Was Kari Lakes 2024 election in there ?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

You are correct.  Was Kari Lakes 2024 election in there ?

You actually should investigate that movie and his other movie 'Vindicating Trump' yourself rather than depend upon insights from people like me who you seem to disparage for their views.  Then you can draw your own conclusions.

[HikerGuy83]

You actually should investigate that movie and his other movie 'Vindicating Trump' yourself rather than depend upon insights from people like me who you seem to disparage for their views.  Then you can draw your own conclusions.

Not wasting my time.

If she isn't contesting.....then I figure that tells me something.

If she is....that tells me something else.

I've got better ways to spend my time.

[HikerGuy83]

I'm not either! Not one bit! This shit will never stop as long as people continue to allow it.

Not sure that is what he meant.

[Bigun]

Not sure that is what he meant.

I don't know. I only know that what I said is EXACTLY what I meant to say.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Not wasting my time.

If she isn't contesting.....then I figure that tells me something.

If she is....that tells me something else.

I've got better ways to spend my time.

of course that is your answer, as it encapsulates that you really don't care to know facts or the truth, and prefer to just state an opinion.  Why bother obtaining an opinion that isn't based on bias?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

We can investigate it sure. Frankly the stuff happening in PA and CA is more worrying to me.