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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #325 on: November 15, 2024, 07:51:35 pm »

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If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

You missed the part where we improved majorities in both the AZ senate and AZ house ?

We elected Trump Bigley !

We have been running crap candidates for a while now.  McSally, Masters, and Lake.  In Lake's case, it was a crap campaign.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #326 on: November 15, 2024, 08:05:10 pm »
Are you not the one who keeps saying we are a blue state in spite of being countered continually ?


WRONG!
No, I are not the one who said Arizona is a blue state. Find it, quote it, and it shouldn't be hard if I
"keep saying it".

You can't, because that did not happen.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #327 on: November 15, 2024, 11:33:06 pm »
WRONG!
No, I are not the one who said Arizona is a blue state. Find it, quote it, and it shouldn't be hard if I
"keep saying it".

You can't, because that did not happen.

And I apologize.

I went back and looked and I confused you with another poster.

My bad.  My mistake.

Again...apologies.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #328 on: November 16, 2024, 09:00:05 am »
Meanwhile: over in PA, the democrats are openly trying to cheat.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #329 on: November 16, 2024, 09:05:15 am »
Meanwhile: over in PA, the democrats are openly trying to cheat.

Trying???
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #330 on: November 16, 2024, 09:06:51 am »
That is exactly what Kamala did, keeping TDS Rinos around and moving to the middle.

Didn't help Harris, so why does that help Gallego?

Bad argument to say why Lake lost.
That is exactly what Kamala did, keeping TDS Rinos around and moving to the middle.

Didn't help Harris, so why does that help Gallego?

Bad argument to say why Lake lost.

I don't recall saying it was why Lake lost.  It was a statement about his tactics and evidence that he had some form of republican support.

An AZ businessman is NOT Liz Cheney.

Huge difference.

Lake lost for a host of reasons.

As indicated, polling showed her way down (farther than what she wound up) even as Trump was pulling away from Harris.

People seem surprised she lost.

I'm not.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #331 on: November 16, 2024, 09:27:34 am »
I don't recall saying it was why Lake lost.  It was a statement about his tactics and evidence that he had some form of republican support.

An AZ businessman is NOT Liz Cheney.

Huge difference.

Lake lost for a host of reasons.

As indicated, polling showed her way down (farther than what she wound up) even as Trump was pulling away from Harris.

People seem surprised she lost.

I'm not.

Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #332 on: November 16, 2024, 10:36:30 am »
Kari won't be the one speaking to reporters.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #333 on: November 16, 2024, 10:41:59 am »
Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.
why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.

As Trump was in the lead by several points, Kari Lake was also making strides and cutting down on her opponent’s lead as Arizona counties continued dumping vote totals that were favorable to Lake in the days following the election.

However, that changed last weekend despite expectations the trend would continue as more Republican votes were counted and Lake would win in a close election.

Democrat Ruben Gallego currently leads Kari Lake by nearly 80,000 votes in the Senate race, with over 98% of the votes counted statewide. Meanwhile, President Trump has a more than 185,000 vote lead over Kamala Harris.

This makes no sense, especially when you take into account other races in Maricopa County and statewide where Trump or Lake-Endorsed candidates won.

Take, for example, the countywide race for Maricopa County Recorder, where Kari Lake-Endorsed Republican Justin Heap won by about 80,000 votes. Likewise, President Trump took a 70,000 vote lead in Maricopa.

However, In the same county, where over 60% of Arizona voters reside, Kari Lake apparently lost by over 100,000 votes.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/watch-dinesh-dsouza-makes-case-investigating-kari-lakes/
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #334 on: November 16, 2024, 10:45:09 am »
I'm the guy who has repeatedly claimed that Arizona is a blue state.

And I stand by what I've said -- regardless of the fact that Mr. Trump won there by a good margin on Nov. 5th.

It seems impossible for Republicans to win the Senate there.

And as Bigun posted above in reply 307:
"Governor - Democrat
AG - Democrat
Secretary of State - Democrat"


If Arizonians are "red", why can't they elect Republicans in their own state?

To those Briefers IN Arizona:
Sometimes it takes someone observing from a distance to see how things really are...
Yep, Dinesh is at some distance and is honing in on 'how things really are...'
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #335 on: November 16, 2024, 11:08:39 am »
Texas is a red state; hasn't elected a Democrat to any statewide office in thirty years. Arizona is NOT a red state but I sincerely hope they get there soon!
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #336 on: November 16, 2024, 12:20:21 pm »
Just out of curiosity, why does it take two weeks or more for someone to lose in Arizona? Anyone can lose in Texas in less than 6 hours and there are a hell of a lot more ballots to count in Texas.

Florida is just as fast as I understand it.

But it happens because we have people in office who simply like pissing off the right.

He's leaving.

BTW: PA is still counting.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #337 on: November 16, 2024, 12:20:53 pm »
Texas is a red state; hasn't elected a Democrat to any statewide office in thirty years. Arizona is NOT a red state but I sincerely hope they get there soon!

Then Kansas isn't a red state either.

Nor is Montana

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #338 on: November 16, 2024, 12:25:03 pm »
why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.

As Trump was in the lead by several points, Kari Lake was also making strides and cutting down on her opponent’s lead as Arizona counties continued dumping vote totals that were favorable to Lake in the days following the election.

However, that changed last weekend despite expectations the trend would continue as more Republican votes were counted and Lake would win in a close election.

Democrat Ruben Gallego currently leads Kari Lake by nearly 80,000 votes in the Senate race, with over 98% of the votes counted statewide. Meanwhile, President Trump has a more than 185,000 vote lead over Kamala Harris.

This makes no sense, especially when you take into account other races in Maricopa County and statewide where Trump or Lake-Endorsed candidates won.

Take, for example, the countywide race for Maricopa County Recorder, where Kari Lake-Endorsed Republican Justin Heap won by about 80,000 votes. Likewise, President Trump took a 70,000 vote lead in Maricopa.

However, In the same county, where over 60% of Arizona voters reside, Kari Lake apparently lost by over 100,000 votes.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/watch-dinesh-dsouza-makes-case-investigating-kari-lakes/

Blah blah blah blah blah.....
Blah blah....

Polling showed the others tight and winning  while Lake was getting her ass kicked. 

The voting shifted right and she experienced some of that too. 

But was to far in the hole to start. 

For those of us watching her....it was not a surprise. 

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #339 on: November 16, 2024, 12:28:45 pm »
Blah blah blah blah blah.....
Blah blah....

Polling showed the others tight and winning  while Lake was getting her ass kicked. 

The voting shifted right and she experienced some of that too. 

But was to far in the hole to start. 

For those of us watching her....it was not a surprise.

I am not surprised. 
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #340 on: November 16, 2024, 12:30:34 pm »
why?  Dinesh explains here.
Dinesh D’Souza Makes The Case for Investigating Kari Lake’s Stolen Senate Race
by Jordan Conradson Nov. 15, 2024

Filmmaker and author Dinesh D’Souza came out earlier this week calling for an investigation into Kari Lake’s Senate election after a closer look at the vote totals and comparing them to Trump’s impressive win in the state.


Things broke for Trump right at the end.  AZ is getting back to it's roots.

If she thinks she was cheated, she's not saying it (a wise move).  It's off to get the data analyzed and the courts involved if she thinks she has a case.  I certainly wish her the best if that is the case.

However, speculating like Dinesh does nothing but feed the left who have fed upon the "election denier" garbage for four years. 

When Dinesh or Lake has a case....bring it forward.

Until then, it's not helping. 

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« Reply #341 on: November 16, 2024, 12:36:52 pm »
I am not surprised.

I'm not either! Not one bit! This shit will never stop as long as people continue to allow it.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #342 on: November 16, 2024, 03:56:22 pm »
Things broke for Trump right at the end.  AZ is getting back to it's roots.

If she thinks she was cheated, she's not saying it (a wise move).  It's off to get the data analyzed and the courts involved if she thinks she has a case.  I certainly wish her the best if that is the case.

However, speculating like Dinesh does nothing but feed the left who have fed upon the "election denier" garbage for four years. 

When Dinesh or Lake has a case....bring it forward.

Until then, it's not helping.
bring a case?

You most obviously did not watch irrefutable evidence in '2000 mules'.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #343 on: November 16, 2024, 04:03:39 pm »
bring a case?

You most obviously did not watch irrefutable evidence in '2000 mules'.

You are correct.  Was Kari Lakes 2024 election in there ?

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« Reply #344 on: November 16, 2024, 08:36:51 pm »
You are correct.  Was Kari Lakes 2024 election in there ?
You actually should investigate that movie and his other movie 'Vindicating Trump' yourself rather than depend upon insights from people like me who you seem to disparage for their views.  Then you can draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #345 on: November 16, 2024, 11:10:06 pm »
You actually should investigate that movie and his other movie 'Vindicating Trump' yourself rather than depend upon insights from people like me who you seem to disparage for their views.  Then you can draw your own conclusions.

Not wasting my time.

If she isn't contesting.....then I figure that tells me something.

If she is....that tells me something else.

I've got better ways to spend my time.

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« Reply #346 on: November 17, 2024, 12:09:00 am »
I'm not either! Not one bit! This shit will never stop as long as people continue to allow it.

Not sure that is what he meant.

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« Reply #347 on: November 17, 2024, 08:29:00 am »
Not sure that is what he meant.

I don't know. I only know that what I said is EXACTLY what I meant to say.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #348 on: November 17, 2024, 09:34:22 am »
Not wasting my time.

If she isn't contesting.....then I figure that tells me something.

If she is....that tells me something else.

I've got better ways to spend my time.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #349 on: November 17, 2024, 09:49:50 am »
We can investigate it sure. Frankly the stuff happening in PA and CA is more worrying to me.