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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #250 on: November 11, 2024, 09:32:29 am »
Here's what James Madison himself had to say about it, long after the fact:

James Madison to Andrew Stevenson, 27 Nov. 1830, Letters 4:120--39

https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_1s27.html

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Consider for a moment the immeasurable difference between the Constitution limited in its powers to the enumerated objects, and expounded as it would be by the import claimed for the phraseology in question. The difference is equivalent to two Constitutions, of characters essentially contrasted with each other--the one possessing powers confined to certain specified cases, the other extended to all cases whatsoever; for what is the case that would not be embraced by a general power to raise money, a power to provide for the general welfare, and a power to pass all laws necessary and proper to carry these powers into execution; all such provisions and laws superseding, at the same time, all local laws and constitutions at variance with them? Can less be said, with the evidence before us furnished by the journal of the Convention itself, than that it is impossible that such a Constitution as the latter would have been recommended to the States by all the members of that body whose names were subscribed to the instrument?

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #251 on: November 11, 2024, 05:32:42 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

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« Reply #252 on: November 11, 2024, 05:36:19 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

Other than stalling and cheating taking place in AZ, I don't have a clue as to if she's won or lost or what the heck is going on in AZ.

Remember the hanging 'chads' in FL? AZ now has us beat.

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« Reply #253 on: November 11, 2024, 05:49:03 pm »
She now down about 70,000 votes with 92.48% reporting so Fox News says.

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« Reply #254 on: November 11, 2024, 05:54:06 pm »
Gallego pulled away, so Arizona has traded a sane democrat for a left winger.  This is why the AZ republicans tried to bribe Kari into not running.

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« Reply #255 on: November 11, 2024, 06:03:57 pm »
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I have 500,000 followers.

Does anyone here know a single person who voted for Donald Trump AND Ruben Gallego in Arizona?

Anyone? Even one person?

Like they would tell you ?

Gallego ran an ad with a "republican" businessman saying he was voting for Gallego.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #256 on: November 11, 2024, 06:05:50 pm »
Yet you cannot count votes in a timely manner. Third world goat herders do it orders of magnitude better than Arizona.


https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1855481935893532763

PA is still counting votes.

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« Reply #257 on: November 11, 2024, 06:11:27 pm »
Always watch what the other hand is doing.
Maybe the steal wasn't set for the POTUS race (even the minority of relatively sane democrats had to be less than enthused about Kamala and Timmy) but for down ticket races to position the Dems for the midterms and a reversal of power in the Congress.

Or maybe she ran a terrible campaign

Or maybe people still remember her constant bleating about elections being stolen (I totally respect her right to contest in court....but stop talking about it) and people are fed up with her.

Or maybe when she side-swiped De-Witt, some people got pissed.

Don't get me wrong...I voted for her and I want her to win (and I want Gallego to NOT WIN even more).

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« Reply #258 on: November 11, 2024, 06:12:41 pm »
PA is still counting votes.

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« Reply #259 on: November 11, 2024, 06:15:06 pm »
:yowsa: Keep counting until you get the result you want.  9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000

Casey is trying to Franken his election.  Count votes in Philly till he wins
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« Reply #260 on: November 11, 2024, 06:48:21 pm »
Tomorrow is the deadline for curing absentee and provisional ballots in PA.  A recount would have to be ordered by Thursday.  Some clarity should emerge fairly soon.  I do think the margin will tighten significantly, as there are tens of thousands of provisionals which tend to favor the dems. 

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« Reply #261 on: November 11, 2024, 06:51:29 pm »
Tomorrow is the deadline for curing absentee and provisional ballots in PA.  A recount would have to be ordered by Thursday.  Some clarity should emerge fairly soon.  I do think the margin will tighten significantly, as there are tens of thousands of provisionals which tend to favor the dems.

Since funding is now being directed towards the Harris campaign for recounts, I do anticipate we just might see a few contested.

Although I'm not sure that she can concede and still ask for recounts???

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« Reply #262 on: November 11, 2024, 07:05:11 pm »
Or maybe she ran a terrible campaign

Or maybe people still remember her constant bleating about elections being stolen (I totally respect her right to contest in court....but stop talking about it) and people are fed up with her.

Or maybe when she side-swiped De-Witt, some people got pissed.

Don't get me wrong...I voted for her and I want her to win (and I want Gallego to NOT WIN even more).
Ever consider, maybe, just maybe, the 2020 elections were stolen? Maybe, just maybe,  the same thing is going on even now? (PA, AZ)?
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #263 on: November 11, 2024, 07:14:40 pm »
Since funding is now being directed towards the Harris campaign for recounts, I do anticipate we just might see a few contested.

Although I'm not sure that she can concede and still ask for recounts???

She probably needs the money to cover her debts.  But I have no doubt Marc Elias is billing hours on somebody’s dime.  Every seat is critical and will be used to thwart border security if at all possible. 

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« Reply #264 on: November 11, 2024, 09:28:27 pm »
- Uncounted ballots increased days after the deadline.

These late ballots are falling heavily for Gallego.  Far outside their county averages.
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« Reply #265 on: November 11, 2024, 09:37:12 pm »
Ever consider, maybe, just maybe, the 2020 elections were stolen? Maybe, just maybe,  the same thing is going on even now? (PA, AZ)?

I do believe I said she should pursue it in court.  Just not yammer about it like she did.

In 2022, the election was corrupt.  Instead of saying that and calling for a new one, what does she say ?  "I won."  Real smart.

She's not real popular with some over her antics.

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« Reply #266 on: November 11, 2024, 09:37:53 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

It has not been officially called.  They are still counting votes.

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« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2024, 09:38:45 pm »
Casey is trying to Franken his election.  Count votes in Philly till he wins

If that happens, there will be a full on riot.

He lost.

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« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2024, 09:40:19 pm »
:yowsa: Keep counting until you get the result you want.  9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000

BTW: The Libertarian got 88,000 votes. 

Most of that would have not voted or gone for McCormick.

In AZ, it was the Green Party picking up something like 60K votes.

If Gallego loses.....it was because of that.

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« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2024, 09:45:33 pm »
These late ballots are falling heavily for Gallego.  Far outside their county averages.

They had better be under a microscope.

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« Reply #270 on: November 11, 2024, 10:07:46 pm »
It has not been officially called.  They are still counting votes.

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« Reply #271 on: November 11, 2024, 10:17:13 pm »
They are attempting to Franken-stein the vote. Suddenly, after everything is said and done and everything is closed, a half million votes show up out of nowhere ... and they are all Democrats.

All dead people vote Democrat! Dead votes count too!
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« Reply #272 on: November 11, 2024, 10:22:41 pm »
93% reporting.

She is down 68,000 votes.

She has to win 64% of the remaining vote. 

If she gets to within 1/2 % it might trigger a recount. 

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« Reply #273 on: November 12, 2024, 09:37:08 am »
95% reporting.

She is now down 72,000 votes.

He is already being invited to senate orientation.

I don't think she's conceded.

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« Reply #275 on: November 12, 2024, 10:15:23 am »
https://amgreatness.com/2024/11/12/the-biggest-republican-failure-of-2024/
she tried to go too far into positions she is unqualified for.

Will be good to see her as press secretary
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« Reply #276 on: November 12, 2024, 10:18:37 am »
https://amgreatness.com/2024/11/12/the-biggest-republican-failure-of-2024/

This is the tagline in your article:

For the good of the voters of Arizona, it is time for Kari Lake to finally retire from electoral politics so that the party can turn to other candidates on the bench.

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I could not agree more.

I don't want to hear her name again in connection to a contest.

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« Reply #277 on: November 12, 2024, 10:20:13 am »
she tried to go too far into positions she is unqualified for.

Will be good to see her as press secretary

She was quite capable.

In her general campaign for governor, she ran circles around Hobbs.

She knew the issues.

She came across great.

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She just could not shut up about the 2020 election.

And in 2024, she kept yapping about 2022.

Sure, chase it in court.

But shut up already.

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« Reply #278 on: November 12, 2024, 10:35:41 am »
She was quite capable.

In her general campaign for governor, she ran circles around Hobbs.

She knew the issues.

She came across great.

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« Reply #279 on: November 12, 2024, 11:08:53 am »
knowing issues is one thing, but governing is altogether different

And getting elected is yet another.

She'll not get the chance to govern because she can't get herself elected.

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« Reply #280 on: November 12, 2024, 11:16:02 am »
And getting elected is yet another.

She'll not get the chance to govern because she can't get herself elected.

3rd strike...  she's out.
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« Reply #281 on: November 12, 2024, 07:05:41 pm »
3rd strike...  she's out.

I think this is her second strike, but that's enough for me.

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« Reply #282 on: November 13, 2024, 12:02:11 am »
I think this is her second strike, but that's enough for me.

You are correct.  For some reason, I thought this was her 2nd senatorial run, besides the one for governor.
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« Reply #283 on: November 13, 2024, 10:31:11 am »
Attended the MCRC meeting last night.

A lot of celebration as you might expect. 

Not a lot of discussion on Lake.

I suspect it's over.

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« Reply #284 on: November 14, 2024, 02:05:54 pm »
The SS Lake is below the waves and headed to the bottom.

That is not gloating.  I did not want, in any way, to see Gallego headed to the Senate.  He's a Marxist and a Moron.

And he plans on a very long career there.  He has said as much (when he was in the house he said 30 to 40 years).

But this was our best chance.  Now, we are going to have to root him out and that is going to be tough.

And Lake blew it IMHO.

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« Reply #285 on: November 14, 2024, 02:29:53 pm »
The SS Lake is below the waves and headed to the bottom.

That is not gloating.  I did not want, in any way, to see Gallego headed to the Senate.  He's a Marxist and a Moron.

And he plans on a very long career there.  He has said as much (when he was in the house he said 30 to 40 years).

But this was our best chance.  Now, we are going to have to root him out and that is going to be tough.

And Lake blew it IMHO.

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« Reply #286 on: November 14, 2024, 02:42:00 pm »
The SS Lake is below the waves and headed to the bottom.

That is not gloating.  I did not want, in any way, to see Gallego headed to the Senate.  He's a Marxist and a Moron.

And he plans on a very long career there.  He has said as much (when he was in the house he said 30 to 40 years).

But this was our best chance.  Now, we are going to have to root him out and that is going to be tough.

And Lake blew it IMHO.

What a shame

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« Reply #288 on: November 14, 2024, 02:48:20 pm »
And Lake blew it IMHO.

The Kari Lake MAGA martyrdom has run its course.  Who are they going to dredge up next time?  Kelli Ward?

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« Reply #289 on: November 14, 2024, 03:24:24 pm »

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1856869659783352689

It's a damned shame that the McCainiacs in Arizona and Mitch McConnell have been allowed to do to this great lady. If my saying that offends you tough s&*t!
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« Reply #290 on: November 14, 2024, 03:51:53 pm »
It's a damned shame that the McCainiacs in Arizona and Mitch McConnell have been allowed to do to this great lady. If my saying that offends you tough s&*t!
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« Reply #291 on: November 14, 2024, 03:53:35 pm »
The Kari Lake MAGA martyrdom has run its course.  Who are they going to dredge up next time?  Kelli Ward?

I doubt Kelli would be interested, after running the state Party for two terms.  Maybe I can ask her next time I see her?
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« Reply #292 on: November 14, 2024, 04:37:58 pm »
The Kari Lake MAGA martyrdom has run its course.  Who are they going to dredge up next time?  Kelli Ward?

I like Trump and voted for him and would do so again however I think MAGA will be dead in 4 years.

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« Reply #293 on: November 14, 2024, 09:30:16 pm »
The SS Lake is below the waves and headed to the bottom.
Why would you say that?

You honestly don't think Trump will place her is a position after her staunch support?

She would make a fine Press Secretary as she has all the credentials.

That would not be 'heading' to the bottom.
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« Reply #294 on: November 14, 2024, 10:16:26 pm »
Why would you say that?

You honestly don't think Trump will place her is a position after her staunch support?

She would make a fine Press Secretary as she has all the credentials.

That would not be 'heading' to the bottom.

The SS Lake refers to her campaign and effort to be elected a federal senator from Arizona.

Whatever Lake choses to do next...if it's in the public eye.....will come with some controversy.

It's what she's been.

I seriously doubt she'd do the press secretary thing.  But you never know.

Maybe an ambassadorship ?  Again...who knows.

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« Reply #295 on: November 14, 2024, 10:17:53 pm »
I like Trump and voted for him and would do so again however I think MAGA will be dead in 4 years.

While I still don't know what MAGA stands for...specifically....I don't think it is dead in four years. 

It's part of the culture war and I think part of the left is all to bent on keeping that alive.

J.D. Vance will be the odds on favorite in 2028 (from the GOP) and I doubt he steps to far away from the "red hats".

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« Reply #296 on: November 14, 2024, 10:19:58 pm »
It's a damned shame that the McCainiacs in Arizona and Mitch McConnell have been allowed to do to this great lady. If my saying that offends you tough s&*t!

Everyone is welcomed to their opinion.

Mine is that she shot herself in the foot starting in 2020.  Again in 2022. 

If you look at all the downballot results, it was clock cleaning of the bluebutts in the state. 

Except for her.  She's just about the only bright spot in the whole mess (for the left). 

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #297 on: November 14, 2024, 10:20:57 pm »
The Kari Lake MAGA martyrdom has run its course.  Who are they going to dredge up next time?  Kelli Ward?

Mark Freaking Lamb. 

He needs visibility and he needs money. 

This guy will destroy Mark Kelly in 2028 if it is done correctly.

BTW: Kelly is now to be known as "Uncle Fester".
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« Reply #299 on: November 15, 2024, 09:10:26 am »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien