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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #250 on: November 11, 2024, 09:32:29 am »
Here's what James Madison himself had to say about it, long after the fact:

James Madison to Andrew Stevenson, 27 Nov. 1830, Letters 4:120--39

https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_1s27.html

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Consider for a moment the immeasurable difference between the Constitution limited in its powers to the enumerated objects, and expounded as it would be by the import claimed for the phraseology in question. The difference is equivalent to two Constitutions, of characters essentially contrasted with each other--the one possessing powers confined to certain specified cases, the other extended to all cases whatsoever; for what is the case that would not be embraced by a general power to raise money, a power to provide for the general welfare, and a power to pass all laws necessary and proper to carry these powers into execution; all such provisions and laws superseding, at the same time, all local laws and constitutions at variance with them? Can less be said, with the evidence before us furnished by the journal of the Convention itself, than that it is impossible that such a Constitution as the latter would have been recommended to the States by all the members of that body whose names were subscribed to the instrument?

Quoted from the letter linked above by @Timber Rattler

No way in hell the founders intended to give congress an unlimited power to spend money and until the Roosevelt court stepped in there was not much argument about it.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #251 on: November 11, 2024, 05:32:42 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #252 on: November 11, 2024, 05:36:19 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

Other than stalling and cheating taking place in AZ, I don't have a clue as to if she's won or lost or what the heck is going on in AZ.

Remember the hanging 'chads' in FL? AZ now has us beat.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #253 on: November 11, 2024, 05:49:03 pm »
She now down about 70,000 votes with 92.48% reporting so Fox News says.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #254 on: November 11, 2024, 05:54:06 pm »
Gallego pulled away, so Arizona has traded a sane democrat for a left winger.  This is why the AZ republicans tried to bribe Kari into not running.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #255 on: November 11, 2024, 06:03:57 pm »
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I have 500,000 followers.

Does anyone here know a single person who voted for Donald Trump AND Ruben Gallego in Arizona?

Anyone? Even one person?

Like they would tell you ?

Gallego ran an ad with a "republican" businessman saying he was voting for Gallego.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #256 on: November 11, 2024, 06:05:50 pm »
Yet you cannot count votes in a timely manner. Third world goat herders do it orders of magnitude better than Arizona.


https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1855481935893532763

PA is still counting votes.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #257 on: November 11, 2024, 06:11:27 pm »
Always watch what the other hand is doing.
Maybe the steal wasn't set for the POTUS race (even the minority of relatively sane democrats had to be less than enthused about Kamala and Timmy) but for down ticket races to position the Dems for the midterms and a reversal of power in the Congress.

Or maybe she ran a terrible campaign

Or maybe people still remember her constant bleating about elections being stolen (I totally respect her right to contest in court....but stop talking about it) and people are fed up with her.

Or maybe when she side-swiped De-Witt, some people got pissed.

Don't get me wrong...I voted for her and I want her to win (and I want Gallego to NOT WIN even more).

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #258 on: November 11, 2024, 06:12:41 pm »
PA is still counting votes.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #259 on: November 11, 2024, 06:15:06 pm »
:yowsa: Keep counting until you get the result you want.  9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000

Casey is trying to Franken his election.  Count votes in Philly till he wins
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« Reply #260 on: November 11, 2024, 06:48:21 pm »
Tomorrow is the deadline for curing absentee and provisional ballots in PA.  A recount would have to be ordered by Thursday.  Some clarity should emerge fairly soon.  I do think the margin will tighten significantly, as there are tens of thousands of provisionals which tend to favor the dems. 

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« Reply #261 on: November 11, 2024, 06:51:29 pm »
Tomorrow is the deadline for curing absentee and provisional ballots in PA.  A recount would have to be ordered by Thursday.  Some clarity should emerge fairly soon.  I do think the margin will tighten significantly, as there are tens of thousands of provisionals which tend to favor the dems.

Since funding is now being directed towards the Harris campaign for recounts, I do anticipate we just might see a few contested.

Although I'm not sure that she can concede and still ask for recounts???

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #262 on: November 11, 2024, 07:05:11 pm »
Or maybe she ran a terrible campaign

Or maybe people still remember her constant bleating about elections being stolen (I totally respect her right to contest in court....but stop talking about it) and people are fed up with her.

Or maybe when she side-swiped De-Witt, some people got pissed.

Don't get me wrong...I voted for her and I want her to win (and I want Gallego to NOT WIN even more).
Ever consider, maybe, just maybe, the 2020 elections were stolen? Maybe, just maybe,  the same thing is going on even now? (PA, AZ)?
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #263 on: November 11, 2024, 07:14:40 pm »
Since funding is now being directed towards the Harris campaign for recounts, I do anticipate we just might see a few contested.

Although I'm not sure that she can concede and still ask for recounts???

She probably needs the money to cover her debts.  But I have no doubt Marc Elias is billing hours on somebody’s dime.  Every seat is critical and will be used to thwart border security if at all possible. 

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« Reply #264 on: November 11, 2024, 09:28:27 pm »
- Uncounted ballots increased days after the deadline.

These late ballots are falling heavily for Gallego.  Far outside their county averages.
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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #265 on: November 11, 2024, 09:37:12 pm »
Ever consider, maybe, just maybe, the 2020 elections were stolen? Maybe, just maybe,  the same thing is going on even now? (PA, AZ)?

I do believe I said she should pursue it in court.  Just not yammer about it like she did.

In 2022, the election was corrupt.  Instead of saying that and calling for a new one, what does she say ?  "I won."  Real smart.

She's not real popular with some over her antics.

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« Reply #266 on: November 11, 2024, 09:37:53 pm »
So, has she won or has she lost, officially?

It has not been officially called.  They are still counting votes.

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« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2024, 09:38:45 pm »
Casey is trying to Franken his election.  Count votes in Philly till he wins

If that happens, there will be a full on riot.

He lost.

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« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2024, 09:40:19 pm »
:yowsa: Keep counting until you get the result you want.  9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000

BTW: The Libertarian got 88,000 votes. 

Most of that would have not voted or gone for McCormick.

In AZ, it was the Green Party picking up something like 60K votes.

If Gallego loses.....it was because of that.

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« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2024, 09:45:33 pm »
These late ballots are falling heavily for Gallego.  Far outside their county averages.

They had better be under a microscope.

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« Reply #270 on: November 11, 2024, 10:07:46 pm »
It has not been officially called.  They are still counting votes.

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Re: Kari Lake Officially Launches Bid For US Senate
« Reply #271 on: November 11, 2024, 10:17:13 pm »
They are attempting to Franken-stein the vote. Suddenly, after everything is said and done and everything is closed, a half million votes show up out of nowhere ... and they are all Democrats.

All dead people vote Democrat! Dead votes count too!
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« Reply #272 on: November 11, 2024, 10:22:41 pm »
93% reporting.

She is down 68,000 votes.

She has to win 64% of the remaining vote. 

If she gets to within 1/2 % it might trigger a recount. 

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« Reply #273 on: November 12, 2024, 09:37:08 am »
95% reporting.

She is now down 72,000 votes.

He is already being invited to senate orientation.

I don't think she's conceded.

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