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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3475 on: July 08, 2024, 12:17:35 pm »
Nice to see the Russians getting slaughtered by their own munitions. Rather fitting.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3476 on: July 08, 2024, 08:39:31 pm »
Ukrainian children’s hospital attacked as Russian strikes on cities kill at least 37

 

A Russian missile strike partially destroyed a children’s hospital in Kyiv on Monday, causing terrified patients and their families to flee for their lives, as officials fear more people could be trapped beneath the rubble.

Moscow launched a brazen daytime aerial assault on targets in cities across Ukraine during morning rush hour, killing at least 37 people and injuring 170 others, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The large scale bombardment struck areas in the capital, as well as in Dnipro, Kryvyi Rih, Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.

The death toll includes 27 people killed, including three children, in the capital, the Kyiv city military administration said Monday. Two people were killed and at least 16 were injured in the strike on Kyiv’s Okhmatdyt hospital.

The facility is Ukraine’s largest children’s medical center and has been vital in the care of some of the sickest children from across the country. Every year, around 7,000 surgeries – including treatments for cancer and hematological diseases – are conducted at the hospital, according to Ukraine’s human rights ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets.

Videos from the scene of the children’s hospital showed volunteers working with police and security services to sift through the rubble as smoke billowed from the hospital, as staff described how they tried to rush children to safety in the wake of the attack. Ukraine’s health minister Viktor Liashko said intensive care units, oncology departments and surgery units had been damaged.

More than 600 patients were evacuated from the hospital, with more than 100 transferred to other healthcare facilities, Liashko said, according to state news agency Ukrinform. ...............

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europe/ukraine-russian-strike-childrens-hospital-intl/index.html

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3477 on: July 08, 2024, 11:21:01 pm »
Ukrainian children’s hospital attacked as Russian strikes on cities kill at least 37

A Russian missile strike partially destroyed a children’s hospital in Kyiv on Monday, causing terrified patients and their families to flee for their lives, as officials fear more people could be trapped beneath the rubble.

Moscow launched a brazen daytime aerial assault on targets in cities across Ukraine during morning rush hour, killing at least 37 people and injuring 170 others, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The large scale bombardment struck areas in the capital, as well as in Dnipro, Kryvyi Rih, Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.

The death toll includes 27 people killed, including three children, in the capital, the Kyiv city military administration said Monday. Two people were killed and at least 16 were injured in the strike on Kyiv’s Okhmatdyt hospital.  .  .  .

"Liberators and Protectors", according to one poster here.

Remember the days when an American President would stand before the world and condemn this type of genocide?  I do.  Heck, even Bill Clinton showed the leadership to do this with Serbia back in the '90s.  Today, America has no voice in the world.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3478 on: July 08, 2024, 11:25:02 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3483 on: July 09, 2024, 12:03:54 am »
Fast Russian Propaganda Response to Latest Attack on Ukraine Underscores Its Deliberate Nature

JESS DALY & VALERIIA VOSHCHEVSKA  | Jul 08, 2024  |  17:18


Russian missiles intentionally attacked the largest children's hospital in Ukraine, “Okhmatdyt,” and other civilian targets across the country with more than 40 missiles of various types. So far, at least 31 people have been killed across Ukraine today.

In the hospital that was hit, children are believed to still be trapped under the rubble, according to sources. As Russia celebrates the “Day of Russian Family and Love,” Ukrainians mourn the loss of their own.

Rescuers can hear the voices of people trapped under the rubble and are currently trying to dig them out. Hundreds of Kyiv locals have joined the clean-up and rescue effort.

A pre-planned deliberate attack against civilians
From the early hours of this morning, sirens sounded across Kyiv, and civilians took cover. Initially, the Russian missiles passed the city, heading west to intentionally lead civilians to believe they were safe. However, the missiles quickly changed course and headed back to the city, striking the hospital  .  .  .

.  .  .  This attack appears to have been fully pre-planned, as Russia already had its propaganda responses ready. According to the Center for Countering Disinformation (CCD), just minutes after the reported missiles hit the city, dozens of Russian propaganda Telegram channels started writing their versions of events, celebrating that “the Russian missile operators performed with precision.” They also noted that the attack was deliberately timed after the beginning of the working day so that people would be at their jobs.  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/coordinated-russian-propaganda-response-to-latest-attack-on-ukraine-underscores-its-deliberate-nature-1107
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3484 on: July 09, 2024, 12:08:04 am »
Children and parents awaiting transport to another hospital.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3485 on: July 09, 2024, 08:46:35 am »
Ukrainian children’s hospital attacked as Russian strikes on cities kill at least 37

 

A Russian missile strike partially destroyed a children’s hospital in Kyiv on Monday, causing terrified patients and their families to flee for their lives, as officials fear more people could be trapped beneath the rubble.

Moscow launched a brazen daytime aerial assault on targets in cities across Ukraine during morning rush hour, killing at least 37 people and injuring 170 others, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The large scale bombardment struck areas in the capital, as well as in Dnipro, Kryvyi Rih, Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.

The death toll includes 27 people killed, including three children, in the capital, the Kyiv city military administration said Monday. Two people were killed and at least 16 were injured in the strike on Kyiv’s Okhmatdyt hospital.

The facility is Ukraine’s largest children’s medical center and has been vital in the care of some of the sickest children from across the country. Every year, around 7,000 surgeries – including treatments for cancer and hematological diseases – are conducted at the hospital, according to Ukraine’s human rights ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets.

Videos from the scene of the children’s hospital showed volunteers working with police and security services to sift through the rubble as smoke billowed from the hospital, as staff described how they tried to rush children to safety in the wake of the attack. Ukraine’s health minister Viktor Liashko said intensive care units, oncology departments and surgery units had been damaged.

More than 600 patients were evacuated from the hospital, with more than 100 transferred to other healthcare facilities, Liashko said, according to state news agency Ukrinform. ...............

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europe/ukraine-russian-strike-childrens-hospital-intl/index.html


So tell me why Ukraine is bad and Russia is good in this conflict?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3486 on: July 09, 2024, 08:48:16 am »
This is troubling...

I see it this way, if you support Russia, you are supporting China.



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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3487 on: July 09, 2024, 09:36:28 am »
"Liberators and Protectors", according to one poster here.

Remember the days when an American President would stand before the world and condemn this type of genocide?  I do.  Heck, even Bill Clinton showed the leadership to do this with Serbia back in the '90s.  Today, America has no voice in the world.

LIEden can be relied on to respond slowly and weakly, if at all. IMO, that is the decision context for Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the Arab Palis' 10/7 invasion of Israel.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3488 on: July 09, 2024, 10:34:14 am »
Russian ammo blowing up in Russian "hands":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlPXggSA8g

Video with before and after satellite pictures. An Orc-Shattering Kaboom?
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3489 on: July 09, 2024, 10:49:28 am »
LIEden can be relied on to respond slowly and weakly, if at all. IMO, that is the decision context for Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the Arab Palis' 10/7 invasion of Israel.


I'm not a LIEden supporter, but Trump's position of Appeasement isn't going to be much better but it's going to be worse.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3491 on: July 09, 2024, 03:32:48 pm »
This is such a diabolical war waged by Putin.  He is pure evil.  And he is doing what he is doing because we have such a weak nothing as POTUS.

Every day the Democommies keep Biden in office is one more day for the worst of humanity to run amuck upon the world stage.

An idiot on TV just said 'the president did nothing wrong like Nixon did when he erased tapes'.  What Biden did wrong if you want to use that language is to cease being fully functional.  His total incompetence as a functioning human being puts the entire world in jeopardy.

Biden must be removed immediately.  And while Harris is dumb as a box of rocks, she does have functionality. 

The USA and the world have never been closer to a war that will truly end the world as we know than right this moment.  If Americans do not awaken to the destruction Democommies are leveling upon the world, than perhaps we will see the end soon.

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« Reply #3492 on: July 09, 2024, 04:13:04 pm »
This is such a diabolical war waged by Putin.  He is pure evil.  And he is doing what he is doing because we have such a weak nothing as POTUS.

Every day the Democommies keep Biden in office is one more day for the worst of humanity to run amuck upon the world stage.

An idiot on TV just said 'the president did nothing wrong like Nixon did when he erased tapes'.  What Biden did wrong if you want to use that language is to cease being fully functional.  His total incompetence as a functioning human being puts the entire world in jeopardy.

Biden must be removed immediately.  And while Harris is dumb as a box of rocks, she does have functionality. 

The USA and the world have never been closer to a war that will truly end the world as we know than right this moment.  If Americans do not awaken to the destruction Democommies are leveling upon the world, than perhaps we will see the end soon.
This war would never have started if Biden were not in office, projecting weakness.
When the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, they continued to provide military aid to one faction of the Government there. Yes, they left some materiel, as part of an agreement and eventually pulled the last of their soldiers out.
Nothing like the ill conceived mess that Biden had which simply bugged out leaving billions worth of serviceable equipment.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3493 on: July 09, 2024, 04:28:32 pm »
Agree with you completely Smokin Joe.

Biden is the single greatest existential threat presently to world stability, and the Democommie FAILURE to address his total nonfunctional self is a violation of their oath of office.  They should all be voted out come November.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3494 on: July 09, 2024, 05:12:53 pm »
Agree with you completely Smokin Joe.

Biden is the single greatest existential threat presently to world stability, and the Democommie FAILURE to address his total nonfunctional self is a violation of their oath of office.  They should all be voted out come November.
Considering that for four years just about every one of them has been in violation of their oaths of office, November is a giveaway...
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3495 on: July 09, 2024, 06:06:49 pm »
The War Criminals

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1dz90hq/russian_pilots_commanders_that_fired_missiles_on/




I have looked/listened every where for the UN and other international organizations to denounce this and issue a warrant for Putin's arrest. *crickets*

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3496 on: July 09, 2024, 06:20:51 pm »

I'm not a LIEden supporter, but Trump's position of Appeasement isn't going to be much better but it's going to be worse.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3497 on: July 09, 2024, 06:22:47 pm »
Bill Clinton approved the bombing of a Serbian maternity hospital on an Easter Sunday, and nothing happened to him.
Probably shouldn't hold your breath hoping for war crimes charges against any Russian pilots.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3498 on: July 09, 2024, 08:50:45 pm »
I have looked/listened every where for the UN and other international organizations to denounce this and issue a warrant for Putin's arrest. *crickets*

I am looking/listening for the US Government to denounce it.     *crickets*
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3499 on: July 09, 2024, 08:55:06 pm »
Bill Clinton approved the bombing of a Serbian maternity hospital on an Easter Sunday, and nothing happened to him.
Probably shouldn't hold your breath hoping for war crimes charges against any Russian pilots.

Hey, whatever it took to get Monica Lewinsky off the front page.
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