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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4100 on: August 16, 2024, 05:01:13 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 16, 2024, 04:00:59 pm
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Thank you for posting the Order of Battle info.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4101 on: August 16, 2024, 07:17:44 pm »
A different kind of benefit from Ukraine's invasion of Kursk:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ5Yu0cR7J4


Ukraine is already defeating some (narrow band) jammers by frequency hopping. This capture will enable Ukraine to use unjammed frequencies.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4102 on: August 16, 2024, 10:02:29 pm »
DAY 11 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA


Syem River bridge near Glushkova.


https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/status/1824509696230801773
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4103 on: August 16, 2024, 10:03:18 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4104 on: August 16, 2024, 10:04:12 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4105 on: August 16, 2024, 10:06:43 pm »
Ukraine is blowing bridges to trap Russians on the south side of river near Glushkova.


https://twitter.com/Bricktop_NAFO/status/1824499651506282930
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4106 on: August 16, 2024, 10:08:30 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4107 on: August 16, 2024, 10:15:51 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4108 on: August 16, 2024, 10:19:56 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4109 on: August 16, 2024, 10:22:19 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4110 on: August 16, 2024, 10:25:47 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4111 on: August 16, 2024, 10:27:26 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4112 on: August 16, 2024, 10:30:21 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4113 on: August 16, 2024, 10:32:11 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4114 on: August 16, 2024, 10:33:16 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4115 on: August 16, 2024, 10:40:55 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4116 on: August 16, 2024, 10:45:47 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4117 on: August 16, 2024, 10:50:48 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4118 on: August 16, 2024, 10:54:19 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4119 on: August 17, 2024, 02:12:50 am »
Biden did not want "victory" on either side. The American view of war is always stalemate ... never actual victory. The same policy can be seen in Israel with Hamas.

World war two Germany defeated followed the next day with - Russian Cold War - No Victory
Korea ... Armistice - No Victory
Vietnam ... abandoned from rooftops - No Victory
Iraq ... pull out - No Victory
Afghanistan - Worst defeat in American history - No Victory
Ukraine/Russia ... Russia allowed to attack Ukraine, Ukraine not allowed to respond in kind and attack Russia - ongoing
Israel attacked by Hamas ... Israel "allowed" to respond but never to actually win - ongoing

My proposition is that America has NEVER WON any modern war. They fought to stalemate and then gave up.
Revolutionary War, Civil War, OK granted. But any war from 1900 until today, America fights until stalemate and then surrenders. That is what America ALWAYS does. Look at history. It will slap you in the face.

America is the source of 'endless 20+ year forever ongoing years of wars' with no victor. In fact, America LOVES endless wars. As long as NOBODY actually 'wins' the war, then we can stop and start the same war again in a couple of years.

Depending on America as a war ally is a fool's bet. "America" (not Jews) is really the source of all wars.

America is playing the entire world for FOOLS, and they get away with it every time and leave millions of dead in their wake as they leave and count their money.

My proposition is that America has never actually 'WON' any war, since 1900. America will fight until stalemate and then give up and pull out of the battlefield. That is what America ALWAYS does. War is not meant to be 'won' in terms of actual 'victory'. America just fights a war for a while ... and then simply pulls out and surrenders. It is not only a pattern, it is what America thinks war is.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4120 on: August 17, 2024, 06:20:26 am »
Quote from: 240B on August 17, 2024, 02:12:50 am
Biden did not want "victory" on either side. The American view of war is always stalemate ... never actual victory. The same policy can be seen in Israel with Hamas.

World war two Germany defeated followed the next day with - Russian Cold War - No Victory
Korea ... Armistice - No Victory
Vietnam ... abandoned from rooftops - No Victory
Iraq ... pull out - No Victory
Afghanistan - Worst defeat in American history - No Victory
Ukraine/Russia ... Russia allowed to attack Ukraine, Ukraine not allowed to respond in kind and attack Russia - ongoing
Israel attacked by Hamas ... Israel "allowed" to respond but never to actually win - ongoing

My proposition is that America has NEVER WON any modern war. They fought to stalemate and then gave up.
Revolutionary War, Civil War, OK granted. But any war from 1900 until today, America fights until stalemate and then surrenders. That is what America ALWAYS does. Look at history. It will slap you in the face.

America is the source of 'endless 20+ year forever ongoing years of wars' with no victor. In fact, America LOVES endless wars. As long as NOBODY actually 'wins' the war, then we can stop and start the same war again in a couple of years.

Depending on America as a war ally is a fool's bet. "America" (not Jews) is really the source of all wars.

America is playing the entire world for FOOLS, and they get away with it every time and leave millions of dead in their wake as they leave and count their money.

My proposition is that America has never actually 'WON' any war, since 1900. America will fight until stalemate and then give up and pull out of the battlefield. That is what America ALWAYS does. War is not meant to be 'won' in terms of actual 'victory'. America just fights a war for a while ... and then simply pulls out and surrenders. It is not only a pattern, it is what America thinks war is.
Look at the pattern, and since WWII and the advent of nukes, we haven't had a 'win'. I'm not counting the operations in Panama and Grenada, because those were more limited.

Korea, VietNam, Kuwait (while a 'win', was limited in objective and failed to eliminate the source of the problem, setting up...) Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel...
Definitive victory has not been on the table for a while.

Ike was right.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4121 on: August 17, 2024, 10:14:37 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 16, 2024, 10:02:29 pm
DAY 11 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA


Syem River bridge near Glushkova.


https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/status/1824509696230801773

"Collapsed" under the "weight" of a Ukrainian cruise missile or JDAM, :silly: . There are 3 other bridges across this river: one is near the border of Ukraine, which Russia won't be able to use; the other two have limited weight-bearing capability and are on small roads, not very useful. Apparently, Russia has built a pontoon bridge near the Glushkova bridge, but it is of limited capacity and in an obviously vulnerable location. Ukraine has basically isolated a significant area from Russian reinforcements.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4122 on: August 17, 2024, 11:54:53 am »
The destruction of the Pantsir near the Kerch Strait Bridge takes one more such system out of Russia's operational inventory. It MAY also presage attacks on the bridge itself or nearby supporting facilities.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4123 on: August 17, 2024, 01:36:08 pm »
Quote from: 240B on August 17, 2024, 02:12:50 am
Biden did not want "victory" on either side. The American view of war is always stalemate ... never actual victory. The same policy can be seen in Israel with Hamas.

Truth.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4124 on: August 17, 2024, 03:48:39 pm »
In Leftist American political dogmas "WINNING" is 'racist'.
And the foe does not matter to them. If you 'WIN', no matter what, you are automatically a racist.

It is absurd with White people fighting similar White people, but, the very act of being successful, that alone, makes you racist.
Success is a mortal sin!

(do not try to understand this, the Liberal mind is a morass of confusion, self hate, and delusion)
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4125 on: August 17, 2024, 03:53:30 pm »
Quote from: 240B on August 17, 2024, 02:12:50 am


My proposition is that America has never actually 'WON' any war, since 1900. America will fight until stalemate and then give up and pull out of the battlefield. That is what America ALWAYS does. War is not meant to be 'won' in terms of actual 'victory'. America just fights a war for a while ... and then simply pulls out and surrenders. It is not only a pattern, it is what America thinks war is.

And anyone who thinks any future major ememy of ours will play by these same rules are  foolish.  Expect something more like South Carolina / Georgia in 1864.
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« Reply #4126 on: August 17, 2024, 07:35:01 pm »
Quote from: 240B on August 17, 2024, 03:48:39 pm
In Leftist American political dogmas "WINNING" is 'racist'.
And the foe does not matter to them. If you 'WIN', no matter what, you are automatically a racist.

It is absurd with White people fighting similar White people, but, the very act of being successful, that alone, makes you racist.
Success is a mortal sin!

(do not try to understand this, the Liberal mind is a morass of confusion, self hate, and delusion)
It's that way with any Communist government. If you have anything nicer or better, no matter how hard you worked to get it, or if you crated it yourself, then you have shorted the rest of the collective, and held back on them. That makes you evil in their minds.

(ENVY!)

Remember those teachers in school (in the '60s) who, when they caught you with gum, would ask if you brought enough for everyone? (fomenting ENVY! to prove you were bad)

(Yes that's how long this sh*t has been going on).
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4127 on: August 17, 2024, 08:28:56 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 17, 2024, 06:20:26 am
Look at the pattern, and since WWII and the advent of nukes, we haven't had a 'win'. I'm not counting the operations in Panama and Grenada, because those were more limited.

Korea, VietNam, Kuwait (while a 'win', was limited in objective and failed to eliminate the source of the problem, setting up...) Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel...
Definitive victory has not been on the table for a while.

Ike was right.
Who would want to cure cancer when you can just keep it going and even cause it to happen and make millions?
There really is a visceral greed out there in some people which I do not understand and can not relate.
These people are mentally ill, they are sick. Who would stay in Congress for 60 years until they die at their desk.
They are sick people. They are actually and factually 'mentally ill' by any medical definition.

Why would you ever 'win' a war?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4128 on: August 18, 2024, 12:14:57 am »
Quote from: 240B on August 17, 2024, 08:28:56 pm
Who would want to cure cancer when you can just keep it going and even cause it to happen and make millions?
There really is a visceral greed out there in some people which I do not understand and can not relate.
These people are mentally ill, they are sick. Who would stay in Congress for 60 years until they die at their desk.
They are sick people. They are actually and factually 'mentally ill' by any medical definition.

Why would you ever 'win' a war?
I agree with your point, and I think we saw it demonstrated recently when $20 cures were maligned and buried for $100 shots that did not work. But then, I heard about half the people who ask how you are doing are only hoping you are worse off than they are so they can feel better about themselves. I don't gt it either.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4129 on: August 18, 2024, 12:55:26 am »
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« Reply #4131 on: August 18, 2024, 01:01:25 am »
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« Reply #4132 on: August 18, 2024, 01:07:10 am »
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« Reply #4133 on: August 18, 2024, 01:08:53 am »
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« Reply #4134 on: August 18, 2024, 01:09:31 am »
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« Reply #4135 on: August 18, 2024, 01:13:41 am »
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« Reply #4136 on: August 18, 2024, 01:14:57 am »
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« Reply #4137 on: August 18, 2024, 01:17:34 am »
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« Reply #4138 on: August 18, 2024, 01:20:53 am »
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« Reply #4139 on: August 18, 2024, 01:22:34 am »
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« Reply #4140 on: August 18, 2024, 01:23:39 am »
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« Reply #4141 on: August 18, 2024, 01:24:21 am »
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« Reply #4142 on: August 18, 2024, 01:31:19 am »
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« Reply #4143 on: August 18, 2024, 01:32:42 am »
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« Reply #4144 on: August 18, 2024, 01:34:13 am »
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« Reply #4145 on: August 18, 2024, 07:18:11 am »
Putin must have really hated those cars.
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« Reply #4146 on: August 18, 2024, 09:09:00 am »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on August 18, 2024, 07:18:11 am
Putin must have really hated those cars.
No electrics, so fairly easy to put out.
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« Reply #4147 on: August 18, 2024, 10:17:38 am »
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Zvannoe bridge

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1eurdlo/another_bridge_has_been_almost_destroyed_in_the/

That is the second bridge across that river that Ukraine has destroyed. It basically cuts off Russian troops on the side Ukraine controls or is marauding from reinforcements and supplies. Of course, today's barrier to Russian reinforcements may be tomorrow's barrier to Ukrainian advance.
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« Reply #4148 on: August 18, 2024, 10:51:47 am »
Is anything happening in Ukraine besides in the Kursk area?
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« Reply #4149 on: August 18, 2024, 04:13:09 pm »
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Is anything happening in Ukraine besides in the Kursk area?

@Cyber Liberty

Yes.  Russians are making significant (and costly) gains west of Avdiivka.  Pokrovsky is the new target.  They are also pushing west of Bakhmut towards Chasiv Yar.  Russia has a massive amount of troops built up in Donet'sk oblast, and the Ukrainians lack the manpower to stand up to the assaults.

Not all the posts on the daily updates are about Kursk.  But it does get most of the attention.  Here are the sectors in Ukraine to be watching:



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