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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3950 on: August 10, 2024, 09:06:59 pm »
My guess is it is a bargaining chip. They'll return Russian territory if Russia returns Ukrainian territory.

They're really after the Kursk Nuclear Power Station so that they can trade it for the Zaporizhia nuke plant.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3951 on: August 10, 2024, 09:30:22 pm »
That could be. If others impose a "peace talk" at least now they have something to bargain with and trade to get their country back. Unfortunately, peace talks with communists are only, historically, an opportunity for the Communists to reposition troops and move up supplies. Both Korea and Vietnam are shining examples.

Kinda like with Moslems?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3952 on: August 10, 2024, 09:33:07 pm »
They're really after the Kursk Nuclear Power Station so that they can trade it for the Zaporizhia nuke plant.
They overran the gas pipeline (to Europe) hub there as well. The Power station would be a nice bonus.https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/08/09/ukraine-just-captured-a-key-piece-of-pipeline-infrastructure-in-russia-so-why-is-gas-still-flowing
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3953 on: August 10, 2024, 10:27:12 pm »
Russians face tough choices in defending Kursk amid Ukrainian push

Adam Zygiel  •  12h


The Russians do not want to divert forces to the Kursk Oblast in order not to weaken their position on the front line, according to the Institute for the Study of War. For now, the command relies on units already deployed in the border zone.

"It appears that the Russian military command relies on existing units deployed in the border zone and readily available forces in the rear, most of which are units manned by conscripts and irregular formations to counter the situation in the Kursk Oblast," the Institute for the Study of War reported.

"The Russian military command may currently be resisting pressure to redeploy forces from other operational directions to prevent disrupting Russian offensive operations in eastern Ukraine," it added.
In response to the Ukrainian offensive in the border regions of Russia, Moscow has deployed forces from unspecified operational reserves. Units with conscripts and special forces, including the Chechen Akhmat unit, former mercenaries from the Wagner Group, and the 1st Corps of the Donetsk People's Republic Army, have been sent to the region.

"The Russian military command might transfer more experienced and better-equipped frontline units from eastern or southern Ukraine to the Kursk Oblast, but it will likely take a considerable amount of time for such units to reach the Kursk Oblast," the ISW reported.

However, the Institute notes that, according to one of the "milbloggers," that is, war bloggers, units of the 44th Army Corps from the Leningrad Military District are operating near Rylsk in the Kursk Oblast. The soldiers were involved in an operation in the Kharkiv Oblast. According to the command, this may indicate that interrupting the operation is a "necessary sacrifice" to defend the Kursk Oblast.  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3961 on: August 11, 2024, 03:53:41 pm »
Ukraine is moving on Moscow
Poland, America, Slavonia will join
« Last Edit: August 11, 2024, 03:55:11 pm by 240B »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3962 on: August 11, 2024, 04:04:06 pm »
Ukraine is moving on Moscow
Poland, America, Slavonia will join

So, a region in Croatia is seeking to conquer Moscow?  Really?

Slavonia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavonia

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3963 on: August 11, 2024, 04:20:24 pm »
The Ukrainian goal is Moscow.  (i will burn down the kremlin and cook sausages on it)

Anyone who joins in will get a share of the profits.

Russia is weak and stupid. Now is the time.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3964 on: August 11, 2024, 04:21:58 pm »
They're really after the Kursk Nuclear Power Station so that they can trade it for the Zaporizhia nuke plant.

That power plant provides power to a large industrial area. Like, “Nice industrial area you got there. It’d be a shame if someone shut off its power.”
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3965 on: August 11, 2024, 05:57:56 pm »
The Ukrainian goal is Moscow.  (i will burn down the kremlin and cook sausages on it)

I'm looking forward to next year's Victory Day parade in Red Square being led by the Ukrainian Tractor Brigade!  happy77
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3966 on: August 11, 2024, 06:24:20 pm »
How close to they have to get before the Kremlin is in HIMARS range?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3967 on: August 11, 2024, 08:42:51 pm »
I'm looking forward to next year's Victory Day parade in Red Square being led by the Ukrainian Tractor Brigade!  happy77
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Made me laugh because I just yesterday got some spam email telling me that I am "preapprove" for a 'tractor loan'. Yes, I can buy a tractor and the government will back me. OK? I guess? I don't know? I guess now I will buy a tractor. What the hell do I care?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3968 on: August 11, 2024, 09:47:40 pm »
@MeganC
Made me laugh because I just yesterday got some spam email telling me that I am "preapprove" for a 'tractor loan'. Yes, I can buy a tractor and the government will back me. OK? I guess? I don't know? I guess now I will buy a tractor. What the hell do I care?

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3969 on: August 11, 2024, 10:56:39 pm »
Ukrainians aren't close yet to Kursk, and Kursk is 350-400 miles from Moscow.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3970 on: August 12, 2024, 12:03:04 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3971 on: August 12, 2024, 12:03:29 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3972 on: August 12, 2024, 12:06:23 am »
Desperation:  Russians in a hurry - building straight line trenches, which will not be good to any troops occupying it.



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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3973 on: August 12, 2024, 12:08:19 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3974 on: August 12, 2024, 12:10:18 am »
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