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« Reply #500 on: April 05, 2023, 10:18:28 am »
Can Wisconsin GOP supermajority impeach/remove Justices?

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« Reply #501 on: April 05, 2023, 10:19:15 am »
Speaking of elections, have folks had a chance to see what the people in Chicago did?

Oh boy

This ought to be a wake up call to every corporation, and honest hard working citizen there to get the hell out.
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« Reply #502 on: April 05, 2023, 10:19:46 am »
Can Wisconsin GOP supermajority impeach/remove Justices?

Maybe

But you would need a reason to impeach and to remove.
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« Reply #503 on: April 05, 2023, 10:19:55 am »
No.  The loss of a seat on the court is significant.  But, I don't know enough about the race to comment beyond this.  Was there a dividing issue in play?

The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.

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« Reply #504 on: April 05, 2023, 10:20:27 am »
This ought to be a wake up call to every corporation, and honest hard working citizen there to get the hell out.

No kidding

Have you read the new mayors political positions and plans? He’s gonna make Lori Lightfoot look conservative.
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« Reply #505 on: April 05, 2023, 10:21:04 am »
Maybe

But you would need a reason to impeach and to remove.

Haha, Alvin Bragg says otherwise IMO. If they don't need a reason to put a former President in jail, we don't need a reason to impeach and remove. Tit for tat.

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« Reply #506 on: April 05, 2023, 10:21:11 am »
The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.

Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?
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« Reply #507 on: April 05, 2023, 10:21:37 am »
It would be nice if Republicans won elections.

It would be.  But, I think it's also time for a Republican Council of Trent ----- in fact, I think we're smack dab in the middle of one; although too many are skipping the meetings.

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« Reply #508 on: April 05, 2023, 10:21:59 am »
I was wondering where she was..

 Melania M.I.A. Former first lady nowhere to be found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago speech

Former first lady Melania Trump was noticeably absent from Mar-a-Lago’s ballroom Tuesday night.

Former first lady Melania Trump was noticeably absent from Mar-a-Lago’s ballroom Tuesday night as her husband, former President Donald Trump, made his first public comments hours after becoming the first commander-in-chief in US history to be arraigned on criminal charges.

“I have a great family and they’ve done a fantastic job and we appreciate it very much. They’ve gone through a lot,” the 76-year-old told around 400 supporters at his Palm Beach, Fla., residence and club.

“I have a son here [Don Jr.] who has done a great job, another son here [Eric] who has done a great job, and Ivanka,” added Trump, referring to three of his four adult children.

“And Barron will be great someday,” the former president went on, shouting out his teenage son with third wife Melania. “He is tall and he is smart.”

The former first lady was not singled out for praise.

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« Reply #509 on: April 05, 2023, 10:23:04 am »
The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.

I knew Dan Kelly was going to lose. Tons of money poured into the state from outside interests for the more liberal judge. Plus the ads ran against him were very effective. They revolved around the abortion issue and a couple ads that defined  him as an “extremist Trump Republican”
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« Reply #510 on: April 05, 2023, 10:24:01 am »

(From left) Victor Knavs, Donald Trump Jr. and his fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Tiffany Trump and her husband, Michael Boulos.
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« Reply #511 on: April 05, 2023, 10:24:13 am »
Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?

Agreed

But it doesn’t look good for 2024.

But I do believe as far as the Senate goes, Manchin and Tester are vulnerable
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« Reply #512 on: April 05, 2023, 10:26:12 am »
Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?

Well I actually got invested in WI because it's unusual that they elect their SC justices, but also during the recall elections of a decade they were in the news. But losing the SC at a state level is pretty huge IMO.

The libs on Twitter are calling this "the most important election of the year" which to me seems like BS maybe, but our side gets too invested in Trump drama. Shiny things.

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« Reply #513 on: April 05, 2023, 10:27:44 am »
Well I actually got invested in WI because it's unusual that they elect their SC justices, but also during the recall elections of a decade they were in the news. But losing the SC at a state level is pretty huge IMO.

The libs on Twitter are calling this "the most important election of the year" which to me seems like BS maybe, but our side gets too invested in Trump drama. Shiny things.

I think you may have answered this question before, but are you a fellow Cheesehead?
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« Reply #514 on: April 05, 2023, 10:28:02 am »
For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0.  When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over.  The winner is the winner.  The loser is the loser.  If it's a tie, neither team is happy.

For lawyers, the game never ends.  If they loose they can appeal.  If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions.  If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court.  If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds.  There is no game clock.

As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match.  We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on.  We keep re-arguing the previous contest.  There is no acceptance and moving on.  We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #515 on: April 05, 2023, 10:28:31 am »

(From left) Victor Knavs, Donald Trump Jr. and his fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Tiffany Trump and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Wow, Guilfoyle has chunked out.  Considering the Trump history of dealing with wives, she'd better renew that gym membership. 
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« Reply #516 on: April 05, 2023, 10:29:12 am »
I think you may have answered this question before, but are you a fellow Cheesehead?

Nope.

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« Reply #517 on: April 05, 2023, 10:30:44 am »
For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0.  When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over.  The winner is the winner.  The loser is the loser.  If it's a tie, neither team is happy.

For lawyers, the game never ends.  If they loose they can appeal.  If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions.  If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court.  If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds.  There is no game clock.

As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match.  We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on.  We keep re-arguing the previous contest.  There is no acceptance and moving on.  We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.

Yup

This is similar to the Covid argument. We see here folks arguing the past. What’s the plan going forward so that the mistakes that were made never happen again? I personally prefer Kristi Noem’s Covid response versus either Trump’s or  DeSantis.
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« Reply #518 on: April 05, 2023, 10:31:12 am »
Wow, Guilfoyle has chunked out.  Considering the Trump history of dealing with wives, she'd better renew that gym membership.

I think she’s always been curvy
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« Reply #519 on: April 05, 2023, 10:32:35 am »
Nope.

Two types of ads were run against Kelly. His abortion stance, which is out of the main stream, and Trump.

I did vote for him, but I knew he was gonna lose. Judge Janet has a very weak on crime record.
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« Reply #520 on: April 05, 2023, 10:34:27 am »
I think she’s always been curvy

Yeah, but I can definitley see some cheesecake impact on that figure. 
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« Reply #521 on: April 05, 2023, 10:36:48 am »
Yeah, but I can definitley see some cheesecake impact on that figure.

Don’t they say  the camera adds 10 pounds
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« Reply #522 on: April 05, 2023, 10:37:31 am »
The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.

Truth be told, I haven't the time or the inclination to follow every race in the fifty states. I rely on others to bring contests to the forefront for debate and assistance.

I also think the dismantling of the rule of law and the codification of election interference from every corner of our Republic is a critical issue ---- much, much more than a distraction or nonsense.  But, I also understand that others just want it back under the rug,.   :shrug:





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« Reply #523 on: April 05, 2023, 10:41:26 am »
I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did

Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire
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« Reply #524 on: April 05, 2023, 10:45:53 am »
That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.

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« Reply #525 on: April 05, 2023, 10:48:04 am »
Ditto

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Personally,I am a little surprised both of you haven't started pushing the "Jeb Bush" train down the tracks. He's more your style,although not having mama Bush to tell him what to say,think,and do has kinda handicapped him.
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« Reply #526 on: April 05, 2023, 10:50:00 am »
Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.

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When was the last time,IF  EVER,that Wisconsin elected a conservative candidate?
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« Reply #527 on: April 05, 2023, 10:50:11 am »
I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did

Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire
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More like what the voters didn't  do. There was only a 33% turnout.
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« Reply #528 on: April 05, 2023, 10:52:43 am »
Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.

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That is so absurd that if you tried to tell it to someone who didn't know it actually  happened,they wouldn't believe you.
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« Reply #529 on: April 05, 2023, 10:53:19 am »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

When was the last time,IF  EVER,that Wisconsin elected a conservative candidate?

Wisconsin went for Reagan twice. Elected Scott Walker. Maybe not always a conservative candidate. Wisconsin has voted for Republicans.

And did you know that Wisconsin went to Trump in 2016?
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« Reply #530 on: April 05, 2023, 10:56:02 am »

This is an old unproven story that is being trotted out once again by Bragg. The filing lists previous allegations that American Media paid former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin $30,000 after he claimed to know of an affair between Trump and an unnamed woman which led to the birth of an illegitimate child out of wedlock.

 

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30 grand might be a lot of money to thee,me,and the doorman,but Trump probably thought it was cheaper to pay the doorman the 30 grand  than it would be to fight it in  court.

Not to mention all the lost time he would have spend it court,which would have obviously cost him more than 30 grand.

Sometimes reality just sucks.
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« Reply #531 on: April 05, 2023, 10:58:46 am »
Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.

Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.

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I didn't even know that  was possible.

Nor did I know that there were so many elected Republican officials in Wisconsin.
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« Reply #532 on: April 05, 2023, 11:02:07 am »
I am all for election integrity. People have to have faith that the winner of the election is the true winner, and folks are losing faith in our elections in this country.

But what we see happening is whatever side loses, they claim they were robbed in someway.
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This has been going on since 2000

@LMAO You misspelled "forever".
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« Reply #533 on: April 05, 2023, 11:05:15 am »
I was wondering where she was..

 Melania M.I.A. Former first lady nowhere to be found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago speech

“I have a great family and they’ve done a fantastic job and we appreciate it very much. They’ve gone through a lot,” the 76-year-old told around 400 supporters at his Palm Beach, Fla., residence and club.

“I have a son here [Don Jr.] who has done a great job, another son here [Eric] who has done a great job, and Ivanka,” added Trump, referring to three of his four adult children.

“And Barron will be great someday,” the former president went on, shouting out his teenage son with third wife Melania. “He is tall and he is smart.”

The former first lady was not singled out for praise.

FWIW @mystery-ak Trump was talking about how well run his companies are and thanked his children for working so hard making this happen.  I was more surprised that he thanked Tiffany than not mentioning Melania in this context.   :laugh:

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« Reply #534 on: April 05, 2023, 11:06:32 am »
For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0.  When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over.  The winner is the winner.  The loser is the loser.  If it's a tie, neither team is happy.

For lawyers, the game never ends.  If they loose they can appeal.  If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions.  If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court.  If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds.  There is no game clock.

As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match.  We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on.  We keep re-arguing the previous contest.  There is no acceptance and moving on.  We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.

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Sure it does. Shut off the money flowing into their coffers,and  the  "game" shuts down instantly.
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« Reply #535 on: April 05, 2023, 11:09:37 am »
Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp

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« Reply #536 on: April 05, 2023, 11:09:38 am »
I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did

Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire

@LMAO

Voters do what they always do,vote in their own selfish self-interest.

Ok,that is an exaggeration. Probably no  more than 80 percent do that.

Still,that makes it a steep hill for "rational" to climb.
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« Reply #537 on: April 05, 2023, 11:12:09 am »
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30 grand might be a lot of money to thee,me,and the doorman,but Trump probably thought it was cheaper to pay the doorman the 30 grand  than it would be to fight it in  court.

Not to mention all the lost time he would have spend it court,which would have obviously cost him more than 30 grand.

Sometimes reality just sucks.

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« Reply #538 on: April 05, 2023, 11:12:13 am »
Wisconsin went for Reagan twice. Elected Scott Walker. Maybe not always a conservative candidate. Wisconsin has voted for Republicans.

And did you know that Wisconsin went to Trump in 2016?

@LMAO

I admit to being  wrong about this after another poster wrote that the Republicans were on the move in Wis.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #539 on: April 05, 2023, 11:27:41 am »
@LMAO

Voters do what they always do,vote in their own selfish self-interest.

Ok,that is an exaggeration. Probably no  more than 80 percent do that.

Still,that makes it a steep hill for "rational" to climb.

Where's the self interest in living in a violent, crime infested hellhole?

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #540 on: April 05, 2023, 11:31:15 am »
FWIW...

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I just learned last night that @JusticeDanKelly thought he could win without Trump’s support in the great state of Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is my home state and Trump is beloved by the people.

Foolish that Dan didn’t want Trump’s help — guess we know why he lost now.

8:43 AM · Apr 5, 2023

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #542 on: April 05, 2023, 11:38:58 am »
Maybe the Stormy Daniels episode still has her a bit pissed.  Her lack of being there may imply the Donald did indeed have an affair.

Or, she had nothing to wear with her "I really don't care, do u?" jacket.   88devil

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #543 on: April 05, 2023, 11:43:06 am »
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Daniel Kelly was a Scott Walker appointee

Both are GOP establishment

Daniel Kelly has now lost 2 races for Supreme Court, both times by 10 points

Ron Johnson just won a Senate seat running on a platform MAGA

We know the recipe for WI

It’s MAGA

They just need MAGA candidates

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #544 on: April 05, 2023, 11:45:10 am »
FWIW...

Alex Bruesewitz
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I just learned last night that @JusticeDanKelly thought he could win without Trump’s support in the great state of Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is my home state and Trump is beloved by the people.

Foolish that Dan didn’t want Trump’s help — guess we know why he lost now.

8:43 AM · Apr 5, 2023

Yet,  he lost with Trump’s endorsement in 2020

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #545 on: April 05, 2023, 12:09:45 pm »
Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.

An anecdotal point... In the non-partisan Green Bay mayoral race the conservative challenger, Chad Weininger, was labeled a MAGA conservative in all the TV and radio spots.  Of course, he lost. 
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #546 on: April 05, 2023, 12:12:55 pm »
An anecdotal point... In the non-partisan Green Bay mayoral race the conservative challenger, Chad Weininger, was labeled a MAGA conservative in all the TV and radio spots.  Of course, he lost.

One of the commercials in the supreme court race did have Trump’s endorsement of Kelly from 2020 as part of the commercial. And in the background there was a scene from January 6 basically implying that Judge Kelly was there

Unfair? Yes, But  it worked.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #547 on: April 05, 2023, 12:14:01 pm »
Truth be told, I haven't the time or the inclination to follow every race in the fifty states. I rely on others to bring contests to the forefront for debate and assistance.

I also think the dismantling of the rule of law and the codification of election interference from ever corner of our Republic is a critical issue ---- much, much more than a distraction or nonsense.  But, I also understand that others just want it back under the rug,.   :shrug:

Ditto! Especially the part I highlighted.  Without an honest rule of law NOTHING else matters. We are missing that currently.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #548 on: April 05, 2023, 12:31:43 pm »
FWIW @mystery-ak Trump was talking about how well run his companies are and thanked his children for working so hard making this happen.  I was more surprised that he thanked Tiffany than not mentioning Melania in this context.   :laugh:

They're fine .... on their way to dinner a couple of nights ago:



Yes, he was referring to his children, and I didn't really even miss his mention of Melania but I too was surprised by his mention of Tiffany...perhaps her moral support. (Her new husband has very deep pockets and connections as well).

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #549 on: April 05, 2023, 12:32:18 pm »
Ditto! Especially the part I highlighted.  Without an honest rule of law NOTHING else matters. We are missing that currently.

I second that Ditto!!