LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted

[GtHawk]

Are you really this uninformed @Sighlass ?

[libertybele]

The 34 charges:

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/04/e2e16898-Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

[libertybele]

Trump is facing 136 years for all 34 charges.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.

[LMAO]

So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.

I voted

[catfish1957]

So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.

Supreme County?

[Wingnut]

Trump is facing 136 years for all 34 charges.

There is a Keg party at the Moon Tower tonight.  I have more off a chance of getting laid then Trump has of getting convicted.  But then Trump has laid more track than me.  But I have paid a lot less for the train ride.

[corbe]

   BAJSAN

    (Bring A Joint Smoke All Night) out on @Gefn's back porch, tonight only.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Supreme County?

Sorry, court.

I'm a little tired of losing elections here.

Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.

[catfish1957]

Sorry, court.

I'm a little tired of losing elections here.

Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.

Not that distracted, and one race in WI is a tad obscure for someone like me here in TX. We have our own distraction here in TX including the day to day news of  the results of a  porous border, so that tends to fill our news cycles.   

I did see in the news it was a loss, and gives the dims the WI SC.   I am pro-life, but still have to say Dobbs is about the only tool the dims have left in their arsenal to appeal to moderates.  The GOP needs to address that, or we might have a repeat of an election of lowered expectations.

[Idiot]

Not that distracted, and one race in WI is a tad obscure for someone like me here in TX. We have our own distraction here in TX including the day to day news of  the results of a  porous border, so that tends to fill our news cycles.   

I did see in the news it was a loss, and gives the dims the WI SC.   I am pro-life, but still have to say Dobbs is about the only tool the dims have left in their arsenal to appeal to moderates.  The GOP needs to address that, or we might have a repeat of an election of lowered expectations.

There were a couple of elections yesterday and believe at least the two I saw went liberal.  We are so incredibly screwed.

[sneakypete]

Sorry, court.

Sorry,I should have recognized what you meant. Guess I was more tired than I  thought.

I'm a little tired of losing elections here.

Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.

Trump is the ONLY chance we have of making ANY changes in the way we are being RULED. We haven't be LED since Reagan.

If you  need radical change,and that is the ONLY thing that can save America,we are going to need a radical President that cares about NOTHING more than he cares about how he is  going to be written about in the history books,and his obsession is being written about as "the President that saved America".

He can't be bought,he can't be bribed,and he  can't be blackmailed. On top  of that,he owes the professional thiefs we call "career politicians" Diddly-Squat.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Trump is the ONLY chance we have of making ANY changes in the way we are being RULED. We haven't be LED since Reagan.

Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.

[sneakypete]

There were a couple of elections yesterday and believe at least the two I saw went liberal.  We are so incredibly screwed.

@mrpotatohead

Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

@mrpotatohead

Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.

That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.

[libertybele]

@mrpotatohead

Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.

True @sneakypete that is why those conservatives who can need to get involved at their local precincts.

[LMAO]

Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.

Ditto

[catfish1957]

That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.

I believe this one.  Dobbs decison has been so highly misaligned that it has been the most faux but effective campaign issues of he past 20 years.  The GOP failed miserably in dealing with it.

[LMAO]

I believe this one.  Dobbs decison has been so highly misaligned that it has been the most faux but effective campaign issues of he past 20 years.  The GOP failed miserably in dealing with it.

Abortion and “MAGA Republicans” have been used quite effectively against the GOP

Will it work forever? Probably not. But it’s working now

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

While MAGA are distracted by Trump's circus, the Dems are actually winning elections.

[Bigun]

That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.

Certainly not! But the ones in places that determine outcomes surely are.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Certainly not! But the ones in places that determine outcomes surely are.

If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.

[Bigun]

If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.

If we don't fix the problem (fraudulent elections) we will never win again!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

If we don't fix the problem (fraudulent elections) we will never win again!

Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.

[libertybele]

Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.

I disagree; being energy independent isn't losing.  An election was stolen period. You're not going to change my mind on that. The fix was in the minute every DEM candidate stepped down except Brandon who had less electoral votes than others...same time COVID hit and the rest is history.

Yes I have some issues with Trump but he also had to battle a liberal Congress and corrupt DOJ and still had us turned in a more positive direction.  He's still battling the leftists they don't want him to run -- what does that tell you??

No worries though @Weird Tolkienish Figure I don't think he's going to escape the charges against him, so it is doubtful he'll be the nominee. 

Yes, I'm tired of the GOP losing as well, but if we aren't able to remedy the leftists stealing elections and replace a corrupt DOJ they WILL continue to lose and we will continue to see our Republic crumble.

[LMAO]

If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.

Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?

Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?

What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?

I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting

But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose

[LMAO]

Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.

It appears those more conservative ballot initiatives passed so that is good news

[libertybele]

Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?

Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?

What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?

I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting

But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose

Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?

Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?

What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?

I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting

But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose

Exactly.

[catfish1957]

Unless the GOP comes up with some kind of strategy of dealing with Dobbs, and adjusting the narrative,  the dims are going to keep shoving the issue down our throats.

And we will see more and more results like last November, and last night.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It appears those more conservative ballot initiatives passed so that is good news

That I haven't heard about.

[mystery-ak]

Part of Bragg charges include 30k payment to doorman trying to sell Trump love child story
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Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg announced during a speech on Tuesday that the indictment against former President Trump included charges over an alleged “catch and kill” scheme that involved a former Trump Tower doorman who claimed to have information about Trump’s love child.

Bragg’s office claimed in a statement of facts filed with the court that from August 2015 to December 2017, Trump and his then-lawyer Michael Cohen orchestrated a so-called “catch and kill” scheme with David Pecker, who was the CEO of magazine publisher American Media, Inc. (AMI). They are accused of concealing negative stories about Trump.

This is an old unproven story that is being trotted out once again by Bragg. The filing lists previous allegations that American Media paid former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin $30,000 after he claimed to know of an affair between Trump and an unnamed woman which led to the birth of an illegitimate child out of wedlock.

more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/04/05/part-of-bragg-charges-include-30k-payment-to-doorman-trying-to-sell-trump-love-child-story-1347344/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.

How are you defining "winning"?  Is it simply an "R" election victory?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How are you defining "winning"?  Is it simply an "R" election victory?

It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made  up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.

[LMAO]

Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.

A close election does not mean fraud

And what fraud did DeSantis use in 2022 to blow Crist out of the water? How about Younkin and Winsome Sears in 2021 to win VA?

We have to stop using this as an excuse. Hillary Clinton and her supporters also claimed the 2016 election was fraudulent and stolen when they lost. Hillary Clinton made the false claim that many thousands of ballots were thrown out in the black communities in Wi

We all hate to lose. And the fraudulent election excuse is very comforting verses people just rejected a candidate we supported. But  it is crippling the GOP

If we want to enact much-needed election reforms, we have to win those elections

[libertybele]

It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made  up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.

It would be nice if there were more conservatives who ran for election.  That's one of the problems.

[LMAO]

It would be nice if there were more conservatives who ran for election.  That's one of the problems.

Dan Kelly was very conservative. It was the abortion issue plus being tied to Trump that cost him

I’m not saying people should give up their principles. But I think a lot of these candidates are being tied to Donald Trump and very effectively.

[Bigun]

Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.

Judging by what has happened in recent statewide races there, I would say it very likely was but I live in Texas so I can't tell for sure.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sorry, court.

I'm a little tired of losing elections here.

Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.

GOP Lawmaker Wins Wisconsin Senate Seat, Creating Supermajority
US News, Apr 5, 2023

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Republican state Rep. Dan Knodl defeated a Democratic attorney to win an open Senate seat in Tuesday’s special election, creating a GOP supermajority in the chamber that could be used to impeach Democratic Gov. Tony Evers and other office holders.

Knodl defeated Jodi Habush Sinykin in the 8th District race. The seat represents Milwaukee’s northern suburbs and has leaned red for years. It came open after longtime Republican incumbent Alberta Darling decided to retire in November. Evers called a special election to fill the position.

Knodl’s victory gives Senate Republicans 22 votes in the 33-seat chamber. That’s enough to override a gubernatorial veto in that house. A successful override takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and Assembly, however, and Assembly Republicans remain two seats shy of the 66 they need.

Knodl’s win also gives Senate Republicans enough votes to convict a civil officer, including the governor, other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and judges in impeachment trials. Knodl has said he probably would not support an attempt to impeach Evers.

The state constitution says civil officers can be impeached, including the governor, lieutenant governor and judges. A February analysis from the Legislative Reference Bureau concluded that other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and the state schools superintendent can be impeached as well.

More:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2023-04-05/gop-lawmaker-wins-wis-senate-seat-creating-supermajority

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

GOP Lawmaker Wins Wisconsin Senate Seat, Creating Supermajority
US News, Apr 5, 2023

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Republican state Rep. Dan Knodl defeated a Democratic attorney to win an open Senate seat in Tuesday’s special election, creating a GOP supermajority in the chamber that could be used to impeach Democratic Gov. Tony Evers and other office holders.

Knodl defeated Jodi Habush Sinykin in the 8th District race. The seat represents Milwaukee’s northern suburbs and has leaned red for years. It came open after longtime Republican incumbent Alberta Darling decided to retire in November. Evers called a special election to fill the position.

Knodl’s victory gives Senate Republicans 22 votes in the 33-seat chamber. That’s enough to override a gubernatorial veto in that house. A successful override takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and Assembly, however, and Assembly Republicans remain two seats shy of the 66 they need.

Knodl’s win also gives Senate Republicans enough votes to convict a civil officer, including the governor, other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and judges in impeachment trials. Knodl has said he probably would not support an attempt to impeach Evers.

The state constitution says civil officers can be impeached, including the governor, lieutenant governor and judges. A February analysis from the Legislative Reference Bureau concluded that other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and the state schools superintendent can be impeached as well.

More:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2023-04-05/gop-lawmaker-wins-wis-senate-seat-creating-supermajority

Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.

Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.

[libertybele]

A close election does not mean fraud

And what fraud did DeSantis use in 2022 to blow Crist out of the water? How about Younkin and Winsome Sears in 2021 to win VA?

We have to stop using this as an excuse. Hillary Clinton and her supporters also claimed the 2016 election was fraudulent and stolen when they lost. Hillary Clinton made the false claim that many thousands of ballots were thrown out in the black communities in Wi

We all hate to lose. And the fraudulent election excuse is very comforting verses people just rejected a candidate we supported. But  it is crippling the GOP

If we want to enact much-needed election reforms, we have to win those elections

@LMAO we need to ensure election integrity period.  So who in Congress is doing anything, who at your local level is doing anything, which red states are doing anything?  Ronna McDaniels, what is she doing about election integrity??

Meanwhile, the DEMS continue to steal elections period...fraudulent elections are mounting and the GOP sits twiddling their thumbs. 

As far as DeSantis he had already been in office and proved himself against Crist who had already been in office and disproved himself. Crist was a lousy governor who has changed his party affiliation several time.  Also,  DeSantis and other have worked on election integrity in FL.

[LMAO]

It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made  up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.

Here comes forced unionization

[LMAO]

Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.

Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.

That’s the one bright spot in Wisconsin besides the ballot initiatives. Our governor is a Democrat but we have a very strong GOP state Senate majority.

A different story in Michigan and Minnesota.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Here comes forced unionization

Do Dem voters even work though?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Are you saying this court in WI is made  up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.

No.  The loss of a seat on the court is significant.  But, I don't know enough about the race to comment beyond this.  Was there a dividing issue in play?

[LMAO]

Do Dem voters even work though?

Yes

In the public sector, anyways

[Right_in_Virginia]

Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.

Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.

You're welcome and 

[LMAO]

@LMAO we need to ensure election integrity period.  So who in Congress is doing anything, who at your local level is doing anything, which red states are doing anything?  Ronna McDaniels, what is she doing about election integrity??

Meanwhile, the DEMS continue to steal elections period...fraudulent elections are mounting and the GOP sits twiddling their thumbs. 

As far as DeSantis he had already been in office and proved himself against Crist who had already been in office and disproved himself. Crist was a lousy governor who has changed his party affiliation several time.  Also,  DeSantis and other have worked on election integrity in FL.

I am all for election integrity. People have to have faith that the winner of the election is the true winner, and folks are losing faith in our elections in this country.

But what we see happening is whatever side loses, they claim they were robbed in someway. This has been going on since 2000

[DCPatriot]

"We the American people need to stand behind this guy. There's not another Republican that I can think of who can fight back and fight back this way...I like others, I really do...But at this time, at this moment...He's the guy." -

@marklevinshow

Geezz...look who's reading my posts!  /s   

[LMAO]

Speaking of elections, have folks had a chance to see what the people in Chicago did?

Oh boy