Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set

[mountaineer]

He claims he didn't pull the trigger.
Give me a break.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1466113093411524611

[Idiot]

He claims he didn't pull the trigger.
Give me a break.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1466113093411524611

Anyone know what the gun was?  Colt SAA?  Got to cock it first....at least on mine.

[Hoodat]

A red SUV pulled the trigger.

[LegalAmerican]

Anyone know what the gun was?  Colt SAA?  Got to cock it first....at least on mine.

Yes, it was determined early on, it was gun, that required to COCK it first....then he put his finger on the trigger. A gun for that time in history, in the movie RUST.   He pointed at this woman.  I say on purpose. He is Alec....he can get by with anything!  I hope he ends up in jail.  He can do his POTUS TRUMP impersonation....there.  Such a vile person.

[Cyber Liberty]

To say this is a really bizarre turn of events would be an understatement.

[LegalAmerican]

A red SUV pulled the trigger.

   Yes, cars and guns...keep misbehaving.  lol.   

[LegalAmerican]

He claims he didn't pull the trigger.
Give me a break.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1466113093411524611

I loathe all these lefts.  'THIS TRAGIC ACCIDENT'. Right, but SELF DEFENSE, saving your own life, IS MURDER TO ANY LEFTIST. 

[Smokin Joe]

I loathe all these lefts.  'THIS TRAGIC ACCIDENT'. Right, but SELF DEFENSE, saving your own life, IS MURDER TO ANY LEFTIST.

Only if you are defending against Leftists.

[GtHawk]

Anyone know what the gun was?  Colt SAA?  Got to cock it first....at least on mine.

As I recall yes it was a Colt SSA, but he's banking on most all liberals being clueless about hot that firearm operates. Baldwin has a problem with his statement, according to the cameraman? Baldwin not only cocked the weapon he deliberately pointed it at Hutchins and pulled the trigger. I don't think any amount of lies and bad acting is going to bail him out of this, he failed his responsibilities to safety in every position he had on the set and his reckless actions killed one and injured another. I hope he saved enough money penny pinching, cutting corners and ignoring industry standards to pay for the judgments coming against him.

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nypost/status/1466150440752533512

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1466151871186407432

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1466151871186407432

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexGrenier/status/1466152081874640898

[240B]

Like most clueless Liberals who know nothing at all about how weapons work, he was horsing around like a 15 year old, pointing the pistol at various people on set saying things like, I'm gonna shoot ya!, I'm gonna kill ya, Bang! you're dead.

He thought this was a hilarious joke.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1466203936793116672

[Hoodat]

Like most clueless Liberals who know nothing at all about how weapons work, he was horsing around like a 15 year old, pointing the pistol at various people on set saying things like, I'm gonna shoot ya!, I'm gonna kill ya, Bang! you're dead.

He thought this was a hilarious joke.

The most frustrating thing of all for him is that he doesn't get a do-over.  For decades, he has worked in an industry where he can screw up 40 times in a row, but get it right on the 41st take, and that is the only take his audience will ever see.  People like Baldwin have no clue when it comes to real life situations where the mistake of an executive can cost hundreds or thousands of people their jobs and livelihoods.  They will never be able to relate to what it takes for someone like Donald Trump to do his job.  Because they always get a do-over.  But not this time, Alec.

[rustynail]

Duality, schizophrenia.  The other Alec Baldwin dropped the pin on the shell.

[Polly Ticks]

Obviously he's still working on the gun control agenda, since he is postulating that those evil guns kill people all on their own.

[catfish1957]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nypost/status/1466150440752533512

Someone being shot dead without a trigger being pulled or weapon being dropped?????/......

[mountaineer]

Did the revolver also point itself at the woman, Alec, before pulling its own trigger?

[mystery-ak]

December 2, 2021
Has Alec Baldwin had a psychological break, or is this a tryout for his defense?
By Pandra Selivanov

We've all heard the slogan "guns don't kill people, people kill people," and human nature seems to bear out that bit of wisdom.  The beginning of the book of Genesis recounts the story of Cain and Abel, two brothers who had a fatal falling out long before guns were invented.  The only human remains found in the La Brea Tar Pits of Los Angeles belonged to a young woman who seems to have been a homicide victim 9,000 years ago — again, long before guns were invented.

Even after the invention of guns, people continue to kill each other with everything from common household implements to exotic poisons to complicated bombs.  The most rabid gun control advocates generally concede that guns don't jump up and shoot someone of their own accord.

I suspect that even Alec Baldwin, before he killed Halyna Hutchins on the set of his movie Rust, would have agreed that a gun can't shoot someone of its own accord.  Be that as it may, Baldwin sat down for an interview with ABC News to insist that he did not pull the trigger on the gun that fired the bullet that killed Halyna.

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/has_alec_baldwin_had_a_psychological_break_or_is_this_a_tryout_for_his_defense.html

[mystery-ak]

Alec Baldwin's claim he didn't pull trigger on 'Rust' questioned by sheriff: 'Guns don't just go off'
The Oct. 21 incident left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead
By Lauryn Overhultz | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-says-didnt-pull-trigger-experts-weigh-in

[Kamaji]

He's testing out a defense theory to see if it'll fly with enough people.

[EdinVA]

[deb]

Did the revolver also point itself at the woman, Alec, before pulling its own trigger?

Yes. Absolutely yes. /s

[LegalAmerican]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1466203936793116672

Oh my gosh.  Is true.   

[LegalAmerican]

Did the revolver also point itself at the woman, Alec, before pulling its own trigger?

And first,  cocking itself.   

[Lando Lincoln]

Most sources report the gun was a Colt Single-Action Army. If so, what Baldwin is saying about not pulling the trigger is plausible. The Colt SAA does not have a modern transfer bar or hammer block safety system that prevents the hammer from impacting a live round without the trigger being pulled. If you pull the hammer back on the SAA without being fully cocked, and then releasing it, the hammer can strike with sufficient force to fire a round in the live cylinder. This is why most shooters of the SAA keep an empty cylinder under the hammer.

That said, he is still responsible for the safety of that gun.

[mountaineer]

Samantha Chang
@samantha_chang
The hit TV show "Yellowstone" has lots of gunfights (including a jaw-dropping 13.5-minute nonstop gunfight in its Season 4 opener).

Unlike Alec, none of the actors shot or killed production staffers.
7:45 AM · Dec 3, 2021·

[mountaineer]

Stephen Gutowski
@StephenGutowski
2m
This is a great visual demonstration of why Alec Baldwin's description of how the gun fired without the trigger being pulled is implausible.

https://twitter.com/noraneus/status/1466747943202041862

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1466753482011160577

[DefiantMassRINO]

Was Alec using a Smart Gun with a low IQ?  How else does a gun spontaneously fire itself?

[Idiot]

Of course he did it, he just won't admit it.  He'll get off with a slap on the wrist, but will have to live with the fact he killed someone for the rest of his life.  It would eat up a normal person.

[verga]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1466753482011160577

I am waiting for LeBron James to come out and claim "Crocodile tears".

[mystery-ak]

Alec Baldwin Describes What Happened on ‘Rust’ Set: “I Let Go of the Hammer and ‘Bang,’ the Gun Goes Off”

In his first sit-down interview since the shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, Baldwin spoke to ABC's George Stephanopoulos.
December 2, 2021 6:27pm

Baldwin told the interviewer, Good Morning America’s George Stephanopoulos, that he did not want to wait for the lawsuits or investigations to conclude before telling his side of the story. “I think that there is a criminal investigation, that could be a while. There is all kinds of civil litigation, and I felt that there were a lot of misconceptions,” Baldwin said. “The sheriff’s department hasn’t even released a report to the DA yet … I feel like I can’t wait for that process to end.”

more
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alec-baldwin-abc-interview-rust-1235056159/

[deb]

He pointed the gun at her. Even if it mysteriously “went off by itself”, he still had it pointed at her.
Another simple gun rule broken.

[Kamaji]

Alec Baldwin Describes What Happened on ‘Rust’ Set: “I Let Go of the Hammer and ‘Bang,’ the Gun Goes Off”

In his first sit-down interview since the shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, Baldwin spoke to ABC's George Stephanopoulos.
December 2, 2021 6:27pm

Baldwin told the interviewer, Good Morning America’s George Stephanopoulos, that he did not want to wait for the lawsuits or investigations to conclude before telling his side of the story. “I think that there is a criminal investigation, that could be a while. There is all kinds of civil litigation, and I felt that there were a lot of misconceptions,” Baldwin said. “The sheriff’s department hasn’t even released a report to the DA yet … I feel like I can’t wait for that process to end.”

more
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alec-baldwin-abc-interview-rust-1235056159/

Sounds like it was too close of a replica to the original, and didn't have a transfer bar.  That being said, it was still Baldwin's duty - nondelegable duty - as the holder of the firearm to understand all of its mechanisms - including the fact that it didn't have a transfer bar (my speculation for now) - and to understand the consequences of interacting with that firearm, including manually pulling the hammer back part way and letting it fall.

Baldwin failed those duties, or was negligent in carrying them out, and the death was therefore proximately caused by his own negligence.  He is therefore personally liable for that death (and the other injury).

[mountaineer]

He pointed the gun at her. Even if it mysteriously “went off by itself”, he still had it pointed at her.
Another simple gun rule broken.

They weren't even filming at the time. He didn't check to make sure the gun was unloaded, and he pointed the gun for no reason whatsoever.

Actor John Schneider reacts:

... An investigation into the incident has been underway for a month now, and Baldwin spoke out Thursday night, claiming during a tell-all interview with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News that despite holding the gun, he "didn't pull the trigger."

Ahead of Baldwin's interview, a preview was released, which featured Baldwin's comments, and Schneider, 61, shared his thoughts on the matter in an
18-minute video titled "Seriously Alec?"

Schneider claimed the interview was "all designed to make us feel sorry for Alec Baldwin" and claimed the actor's teary-eyed emotional responses during the interview were "bulls--t."  ...

"What kind of idiots do you take us for?" the actor questioned. He then pleaded with law enforcement, asking investigators not to believe Baldwin's claim, calling it "nonsense." ...

Yahoo News

[240B]

Why would he cock the gun if he did not intend to shoot it?

[240B]

He pointed the gun at her. Even if it mysteriously “went off by itself”, he still had it pointed at her.
Another simple gun rule broken.

Read an article the day it happened in which someone on set reported Baldwin was pointing the gun at everyone near him as a kind of 'joke'. He was playing around with the weapon.

[yodaspock]

I just want to clear up the "I didn't pull the trigger comment" by Alec Baldwin. The pistol he was using was copy of the Colt Single action Army. It's a very old style of pistol with no safety features, It is usually carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber, so you have to cock the revolver, to place a new round under the firing pin then pull the trigger. These are the pistols that could be fanned, Which is holding the trigger down and quickly moving the hammer back so it slams' forward over and over till the gun is empty. You can tell it's this kind of pistol by the firing pin on the hammer.

If you put the hammer down on a full chamber and you jar the hammer the shell it will fire (right into your foot)

So, it is possible to fire the gun by pulling the hammer not to the trigger lock position, but just before that point and releasing the hammer, so it slams forward and fires the shell.

 

[240B]

Why would he cock the hammer if he did not intend to shoot?
Pulling the hammer back shows intent, whether or not he pulled the trigger.
Pulling the hammer back is the same as pulling the trigger.

[Kamaji]

Why would he cock the hammer if he did not intend to shoot?
Pulling the hammer back shows intent, whether or not he pulled the trigger.
Pulling the hammer back is the same as pulling the trigger.

Since he believed the gun was not loaded - a claim that seems reasonable - there was not sufficient intent to shoot.

That is the whole point of the gun safety rules - they exist to prevent bad things happening unintentionally, not to stop intentional actions.

[240B]

Since he believed the gun was not loaded - a claim that seems reasonable - there was not sufficient intent to shoot.

That is the whole point of the gun safety rules - they exist to prevent bad things happening unintentionally, not to stop intentional actions.

Of course there was intent to fire. Whether a blank or a live round he certainly intended to fire the weapon.

[Kamaji]

Of course there was intent to fire. Whether a blank or a live round he certainly intended to fire the weapon.

There does not appear to be. 

But that is irrelevant.  Getting hung up on "intent to fire" is exactly what he wants, because he wins in that scenario.

What matters is that he negligently handled a firearm - a nondelegable duty - and as a proximate cause of that negligence, somebody died.  He is liable for the damages of his negligence.

[Absalom]

Adversity is the greatest challenge to a Man's Character, giving one the opportunity to prove
their worth; as such, Bozo Baldwin's horse manure clearly labels him devoid of character.
What a shock from this Hollywood flunkey, eh?

[mountaineer]

There does not appear to be. 

But that is irrelevant.  Getting hung up on "intent to fire" is exactly what he wants, because he wins in that scenario.

What matters is that he negligently handled a firearm - a nondelegable duty - and as a proximate cause of that negligence, somebody died.  He is liable for the damages of his negligence.

Indeed. Has he been charged with (at the very least) involuntary manslaughter yet?

[DCPatriot]

Of course he did it, he just won't admit it.  He'll get off with a slap on the wrist, but will have to live with the fact he killed someone for the rest of his life.  It would eat up a normal person.

He stands to lose MILLIONS of $$$... damned right he's going to "...pull a Joey Bishop".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN2gU0XU5FU

[DCPatriot]

Of course there was intent to fire. Whether a blank or a live round he certainly intended to fire the weapon.

Within the first several hours since the shooting, it was being reported that the deceased woman was 'instructing' Baldwin about the gun...he got frustrated and said, "You mean like THIS?"  And then gun fired.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1466859790919942145

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/newsmax/status/1466901308015669249