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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #201 on: October 25, 2021, 08:33:09 pm »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #202 on: October 26, 2021, 05:04:54 pm »
‘Rust’ film armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed faces eviction from Arizona landlady: ‘I want her out’
Reed’s home in Bullhead City, Arizona, is a two-bedroom property close to the Colorado River

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #203 on: October 26, 2021, 06:04:04 pm »
‘Rust’ film armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed faces eviction from Arizona landlady: ‘I want her out’
Reed’s home in Bullhead City, Arizona, is a two-bedroom property close to the Colorado River

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #206 on: October 26, 2021, 07:10:54 pm »
Does not matter, the only thing that matters is baldwin pulled the trigger on a weapon before he verified it's condition.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #207 on: October 26, 2021, 09:25:26 pm »
Actually, @LegalAmerican Matt Hutchins is an attorney who joined Latham & Watkins ' Los Angeles office earlier this year as an associate practicing Mergers & Acquisitions law.

This same firm out of DC represents an attorney for the Clinton campaign under investigation by Durham.  Hutchins has zero to do with this represenation or the Clintons.

Ok. Thank you.  I thought , I had a reliable source.  Now I know better.   

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« Reply #208 on: October 26, 2021, 10:47:11 pm »
Ok. Thank you.  I thought , I had a reliable source.  Now I know better.

Your source was reasonable, but they often misinterpret the input data.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #209 on: October 26, 2021, 11:18:25 pm »
Your source was reasonable, but they often misinterpret the input data.

Thank you... :thumbsup:

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #210 on: October 27, 2021, 09:12:09 am »
Authorities Ready to Present Initial Findings in ‘Rust’ Movie-Set Shooting

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SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — Investigators plan to discuss their initial findings Wednesday in the fatal movie-set shooting in which Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun, killing a cinematographer and wounding the director.

The news conference by Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza and District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies promises the first detailed public comments by investigators about the killing of 42-year-old Halyna Hutchins during a rehearsal at a New Mexico ranch.

The sequence of events on Oct. 21 has baffled Hollywood professionals and prompted calls to better regulate firearms of sets or even ban them in the age of seamless computer-generated imagery.

Court records say that an assistant director, Dave Halls, grabbed the gun from a cart and handed it to Baldwin, indicating the weapon was safe by yelling “cold gun.” But it was loaded with live rounds, according to a written affidavit from a detective.

Baldwin, 63, who is known for his roles in “30 Rock,” “The Departed” and “The Hunt for Red October” along with impression of former President Donald Trump on “Saturday Night Live,” has described the killing as a “tragic accident.”

Carmack-Altwies told The Associated Press prior to the news conference that the investigation is still in its early stages — far from any decisions about whether or not to file criminal charges.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #211 on: October 27, 2021, 09:13:24 am »
Let me guess:  it was all Trump's fault!

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« Reply #212 on: October 27, 2021, 09:15:32 am »
They sure seem to be rushing this investigation.  Wonder to benefit of whom?
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« Reply #213 on: October 27, 2021, 09:18:38 am »
Let me guess:  it was all Trump's fault!

And the gun.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #216 on: October 27, 2021, 12:54:08 pm »
Ok. Thank you.  I thought , I had a reliable source.  Now I know better.

Oops....I just saw your post @LegalAmerican    ----- No worries.  There's SO much misinformation or half information out there  --- I really had to dig to find the full story.   happy77

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« Reply #217 on: October 27, 2021, 06:43:05 pm »
Was the meme posted here about Baldwin.

It said,
I stand Behind Alex Baldwin.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #218 on: October 27, 2021, 06:48:26 pm »
Was the meme posted here about Baldwin.

It said,
I stand Behind Alex Baldwin.

No, but it sure sounds good....
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« Reply #219 on: October 27, 2021, 06:56:02 pm »
No, but it sure sounds good....
It said,
I stand Behind Alex Baldwin.


Because I sure as hell don't want to be standing in front of him...
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #220 on: October 27, 2021, 07:10:48 pm »
It said,
I stand Behind Alex Baldwin.


Because I sure as hell don't want to be standing in front of him...

That's "Alec," as in "Smart ass."
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #221 on: October 27, 2021, 08:07:42 pm »
That's "Alec," as in "Smart ass."

I stand corrected.  But I will stand behind him.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #223 on: October 27, 2021, 08:26:20 pm »
Was the meme posted here about Baldwin.

It said,
I stand Behind Alex Baldwin.
Sounds a lot safer than being in front of him.
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« Reply #224 on: October 27, 2021, 11:12:38 pm »
So a prop gun that fires real bullets?  That was real smart...

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« Reply #225 on: October 28, 2021, 12:42:34 am »
So a prop gun that fires real bullets?  That was real smart...

I always thought that "prop" meant something is a fake, but recently I watched a video that explained that "prop" is short for "property", as in , "property of the production". It doesn't necessarily mean something is fake, it just means that it belongs to the production. So a "prop gun" might be fake or might be real, in either case it is the property of the production.
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« Reply #226 on: October 28, 2021, 01:06:46 am »
When you see someone in Hollywood holding a SHOTGUN and calling it a RIFLE and cocking it three or four times (with some smartass comments) with no casing ejecting. These guys really don't know. They have no clue how a gun actually works?

Liberals really and truly do not know what a gun is, or what it does. THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW!
I know this is crazy (to me anyway) these guys are retarded in every meaning of the word.
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« Reply #227 on: October 28, 2021, 03:46:49 am »
When you see someone in Hollywood holding a SHOTGUN and calling it a RIFLE and cocking it three or four times (with some smartass comments) with no casing ejecting. These guys really don't know. They have no clue how a gun actually works?

Liberals really and truly do not know what a gun is, or what it does. THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW!
I know this is crazy (to me anyway) these guys are retarded in every meaning of the word.
When they wave them around in a movie with the endless Hollywood "clip", never having to reload until some tender moment even though they have fired hundreds of rounds, they are fundamentally clueless as to the limitations and capabilities of the firearms they pretend to handle. It is sad that someone doing their job got killed by this ignorance, by the careless handling of a real weapon, and the failure to ensure it had no live ammunition in it.

These people live in a world of make believe, and it just got real.

The .45 long colt round is roughly equivalent to the .357 Magnum in power, so it is a small wonder that the cinematographer was wounded through and through and the person behind her hit as well. But sad that it happened that way. I wonder about their competence at rendering first aid, but a clipped artery could be very bad news there even with competent personnel. It isn't like on teevee where they get shot in the shoulder and are kung fu fighting in 5 minutes.
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« Reply #228 on: October 28, 2021, 04:44:03 am »
The classics scene some clobber has rescued some maid from some terrible fate?
While running, they suddenly stop, and start conversing about life and the universe...
then they make out and get killed by some lunatic.

Thank You Hollywood, how would we live without you?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #231 on: October 28, 2021, 09:29:13 am »
The gun Was Safe before the shooting. As The  Gun was Not Being Pointed at a Person. The Trigger was Not Being Pulled.

Alec Caused the Gun to Be Verrrry Unsafe and Deadly.

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« Reply #232 on: October 28, 2021, 09:34:02 am »
I'm pro-2A as they come, but idiots like Baldwin shouldn't be within 20 feet of a real gun.

It's like giving my truck keys to my 8 year old grandson for a ride on the interstate.
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« Reply #233 on: October 28, 2021, 09:39:16 am »
I'm pro-2A as they come, but idiots like Baldwin shouldn't be within 20 feet of a real gun.

It's like giving my truck keys to my 8 year old grandson for a ride on the interstate.

I'd trust your 8 y.o. g-son with a tractor-trailer in Chinatown before I'd trust a lib/prog like Baldwin with a gun!

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« Reply #234 on: October 28, 2021, 09:39:58 am »
Some of the comments to Baldwin’s tweet show how hopelessly ignorant some people are.

@catfish1957 - perfect analogy re: your grandson and truck. Many of those comments would have you do away with your truck.
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« Reply #235 on: October 28, 2021, 11:11:49 am »
The classics scene some clobber has rescued some maid from some terrible fate?
While running, they suddenly stop, and start conversing about life and the universe...
then they make out and get killed by some lunatic.

Thank You Hollywood, how would we live without you?
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« Reply #236 on: October 28, 2021, 03:43:51 pm »
Dana Loesch Gets Ahead of the Liberal Media's Predicable Move to Protect Alec Baldwin Post-Accidental Shooting
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I wrote about how the armorer on the set of the film Rust was nervous and doubted her abilities. That doesn’t mean she was at fault and I mentioned to keep an eye out because the Left will weaponize these remarks to protect Alec Baldwin, who accidentally shot and killed the film’s cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, last week. No matter what was said, Baldwin pulled the trigger. He took another director’s word that it was safe. He didn’t check for himself—and a woman is now dead. Joel Souza, the director, was also injured in the incident.  Yet, Dana Loesch was first to fire the warning flare about the liberal media’s predictable pivot. The New York Post reported on a story about how this armorer angered Nicolas Cage so much in a past production that he walked off the set. So, is she totally at fault? No. This was a systemic failure.

“There is enough blame to go around, but it’s disgusting to see a blatant PR effort aimed at placing the entirety of the blame on the younger women hired by the lead producer and talent running the set. Inexcusable and people are giving Baldwin a pass for it,” wrote Loesch.

“I don’t care how “rookie” someone was — that only makes Baldwin look even more irresponsible as part of his job was to know what was happening on his set. Period,” she added.  ... Townhall
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #237 on: October 28, 2021, 03:47:24 pm »
Alec Baldwin retweets story that highlights person to blame for fatal set shooting

The only person deserving blame here is Alec Baldwin.  N one else pulled that trigger.
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« Reply #238 on: October 28, 2021, 04:53:18 pm »
The only person deserving blame here is Alec Baldwin.  N one else pulled that trigger.

Exactly. The gun went off because HE pulled the trigger. Just a few moments of pre-check and he would have seen that it was loaded.
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« Reply #239 on: October 28, 2021, 07:07:12 pm »
I think they are going to pin this on that gal who was the Armorer.  She's young, poor and powerless.   She's a ditz, but she's also a kid.
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« Reply #240 on: October 28, 2021, 07:26:37 pm »
I think they are going to pin this on that gal who was the Armorer.  She's young, poor and powerless.   She's a ditz, but she's also a kid.

Perhaps a diversity hire by an arrogant and inept producer.
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« Reply #241 on: October 28, 2021, 08:00:27 pm »
Everyone of them that handled the gun is culpable.  If bar owners and gun manufacturers are...   :shrug:

But my sixth sense screams a sinister act by a pissed-off union member who got sick and tired of the 'Jeffrey Epstein' tactics Baldwin was using to hand out jobs to somebody whose only qualification is what she's willing to do with her body.

That said, this 'murder' is on video as sure as the sun is rising somewhere right now.

The "live round" didn't get into that chamber by itself.
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« Reply #242 on: October 28, 2021, 08:39:20 pm »
Everyone of them that handled the gun is culpable.  If bar owners and gun manufacturers are...   :shrug:

But my sixth sense screams a sinister act by a pissed-off union member who got sick and tired of the 'Jeffrey Epstein' tactics Baldwin was using to hand out jobs to somebody whose only qualification is what she's willing to do with her body.

That said, this 'murder' is on video as sure as the sun is rising somewhere right now.

The "live round" didn't get into that chamber by itself.

Apparently they were using the same gun for target practice so that makes it much more likely it was loaded with live rounds.

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« Reply #243 on: October 29, 2021, 06:31:11 am »
Baldwin also retweeted this:


https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1453504319400157191



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I'm tired of the term "misfire".  You can't misfire an M1893 Colt .45 Revolver.  It is a single-action pistol that requires the hammer to be engaged and the trigger pulled.  You can share as many articles as you want, but ultimately the person holding the firearm is responsible.

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« Reply #244 on: October 29, 2021, 02:40:44 pm »


source: https: //twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1451508819599650816 - trying to confirm whether he actually said this.
Certainly contrary to the original story that he was "practicing" his cross draw. Either way he was negligent and needs to serve time.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #245 on: October 29, 2021, 02:44:01 pm »
'Course being handed a hot gun wouldn't explain why he pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger.
First rule of gun handling: Treat every gun as if it is loaded, until you clear it. Second rule: Keep your booger picker off the bang switch until you prove it is clear.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #246 on: October 29, 2021, 03:01:54 pm »

If Alec Baldwin was a card-carrying member of the NRA, this wouldn't have happened.  He would have had better knowledge of gun safety.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #247 on: October 29, 2021, 03:04:52 pm »

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1451652014367256587


Protocol (rules) calls for both the prop master and the actor to physically check the chamber of the gun  --- the actor, whoever it is, is not supposed to take the word of the prop master.  Both of them are to confirm the gun's safe to use.



https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertJohnDavi/status/1451499551584669698
If theya re using a period accurate firearm, it was single action: meaning you have to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger to fire. To check, load, and clear it requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate and rotating the cylinder to determine if there are any rounds. This Is neither rocket surgery, or brain science.   
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken him completely by surprise.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #248 on: October 29, 2021, 03:38:56 pm »
If theya re using a period accurate firearm, it was single action: meaning you have to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger to fire. To check, load, and clear it requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate and rotating the cylinder to determine if there are any rounds. This Is neither rocket surgery, or brain science.

Well, it was obviously to difficult for baldwin...

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #249 on: October 29, 2021, 03:49:06 pm »
Certainly contrary to the original story that he was "practicing" his cross draw. Either way he was negligent and needs to serve time.
Yeah....I'm starting to lean this way as well.