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Re: BREAKING: FBI PROBING NEW CLINTON EMAILS..
« Reply #375 on: October 28, 2016, 08:55:33 pm »
She might even sue the FBI for double-jeopardy.  If she's President, she'd be able to make the call.

That'd be really interesting.  Specially if she gets to nominate a good chunk of the Supreme court.

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« Reply #376 on: October 28, 2016, 08:56:17 pm »
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The FBI doesn't know what those emails contain as yet, but would not have changed his assessment about the case.

This is amazing...they don't know what the emails say but no matter what it wouldn't change their opinions on Hillary's culpability....yeah right.
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« Reply #377 on: October 28, 2016, 08:56:49 pm »
What will be interesting over the weekend is to see how hard the Republican leadership pushes this. 

I'm thinking they'll address it, but won't go the wall over it, afraid that, if they do, Trump might actually win.

I figure the GOP and Trump will overplay this to the point of ridiculousness.  And come Monday, people will have processed the information and realized just how unhinged Trump became over it.

And if there is a major oppo research drop from Clinton, then the viewpoint that Trump overreached in this will add to the 'punch' of the drop.  Of course, that depends on if there is a drop or not.

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« Reply #378 on: October 28, 2016, 08:58:33 pm »
I figure the GOP and Trump will overplay this to the point of ridiculousness.  And come Monday, people will have processed the information and realized just how unhinged Trump became over it.

And if there is a major oppo research drop from Clinton, then the viewpoint that Trump overreached in this will add to the 'punch' of the drop.  Of course, that depends on if there is a drop or not.


No. Trump will say something stupid or there is footage of Trump groping a black woman in a KKK robe out there.


It will totally take Hillary's email problems out of the news.

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« Reply #379 on: October 28, 2016, 08:59:17 pm »
Update:

4 devices found between Huma and Anthony Weiner.


Battery powered, i assume....

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« Reply #380 on: October 28, 2016, 09:00:04 pm »
This is amazing...they don't know what the emails say but no matter what it wouldn't change their opinions on Hillary's culpability....yeah right.


Right... they're just announcing it in a statement with Clinton's name in it 11 days before an election for the hell of it. Just for no reason.

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« Reply #381 on: October 28, 2016, 09:01:57 pm »

From Comey's original letter:



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You tell me.

I stated that in point 3.

Yet as he's said the FBI doesn't know what they have as yet... this looks like the FBI has scanned the subject and recipient lines and saw Clinton's email address.

But that the FBI hasn't yet read the contents of the emails.

However, as he's said that the new information would not have changed his decision to not recommend prosecution... I'd say that he's now finding out from the FBI investigators reading the emails that there isn't anything there.

That said, I doubt the FBI has had a chance to read through them all, what with it being Friday and Halloween.  Next week, though.

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« Reply #382 on: October 28, 2016, 09:03:22 pm »
This is amazing...they don't know what the emails say but no matter what it wouldn't change their opinions on Hillary's culpability....yeah right.

There is no way the justice department and the FBI can open the Hillary Email investigation again in any real way. Any real exposure of the investigation only reveals the justice department's and FBI's corruption of the investigation so they must bury it or they bury themselves.

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« Reply #383 on: October 28, 2016, 09:03:29 pm »

No. Trump will say something stupid or there is footage of Trump groping a black woman in a KKK robe out there.


It will totally take Hillary's email problems out of the news.

This is true.  Trump cannot tolerate not being in the spotlight.  So he'll do *ANYTHING* to get the focus back, regardless of it being good or bad.  And in the press, bad sells.


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« Reply #384 on: October 28, 2016, 09:03:57 pm »
However, as he's said that the new information would not have changed his decision to not recommend prosecution... I'd say that he's now finding out from the FBI investigators reading the emails that there isn't anything there.


Why/how would you say that? He isn't releasing any more information AFAIK.

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« Reply #385 on: October 28, 2016, 09:06:46 pm »
However, as he's said that the new information would not have changed his decision to not recommend prosecution... I'd say that he's now finding out from the FBI investigators reading the emails that there isn't anything there.

That will be the story, yes.  Oh sorry, "Narrative."
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« Reply #386 on: October 28, 2016, 09:07:40 pm »

I want to hear from the FBI why they are investigating if it won't affect their exoneration.

Perhaps they're only referring to Hillary.  Personally, I think Hillary's top, most trusted aide going down on national security issues is still a very big deal.  It's a direct reflection on her judgment and the kind of people she'd bring in with her.

And that's the charitable view.  The uncharitable view will be that she let her subordinate take the fall for her sins.

Either way, just because Hillary herself isn't indicted doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.
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« Reply #387 on: October 28, 2016, 09:07:48 pm »

Why/how would you say that? He isn't releasing any more information AFAIK.

That's what was posted on this thread as news.  Which would mean that he's looking at there being nothing there (at least, against Clinton).  Which makes him look like a fool to spin up all those politicians for nothing.

And he is going to be looking for a new job in January... as Director level positions tend to switch out with each administration.

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Blowing his credibility this close to the new administration is definitely going to impact his ability to secure another government/political job.  And I think he's slowly coming to realize that.
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« Reply #388 on: October 28, 2016, 09:09:17 pm »
Perhaps they're only referring to Hillary.  Personally, i think Hillary's top, most trusted aid going down on national security issues is still a very big deal.  It's a direct reflection on her judgment and the kind of people she'd bring in with her.

And that's the charitable view.  The uncharitable view will be that she let her subordinate take the fall for her sins.

Either way, just because Hillary herself isn't indicted doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.


Yep.


My hope that if and when she wins, and I think she may squeak by, she does so with GOP keeping the Senate and heavily damaged that she's basically a lame duck. In 2020 we can run someone better against her.

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« Reply #389 on: October 28, 2016, 09:10:53 pm »

Right... they're just announcing it in a statement with Clinton's name in it 11 days before an election for the hell of it. Just for no reason.

The truth is that Hillary's people have no idea what is on those devices, and cannot know how far this could go.  They likely figure this won't be resolved by the election, so they are trying to shape the public narrative with bogus FBI leaks that Hillary is really in the clear.

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« Reply #390 on: October 28, 2016, 09:11:51 pm »
We are all jaded to some degree or another. As most of us have been political observers over decades of time, how could we not be?  But the timing is so extraordinary, with potential reverberations so huge, that this feels different to me. Maybe it is nothing.  It is probably nothing even.

But, damn.

Can you imagine the amount of pressure from below required to force Comey to do this now?  I can't.
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« Reply #391 on: October 28, 2016, 09:16:53 pm »
The truth is that Hillary's people have no idea what is on those devices, and cannot know how far this could go.  They likely figure this won't be resolved by the election, so they are trying to shape the public narrative with bogus FBI leaks that Hillary is really in the clear.


Wait, you think Hillary had this leaked this close to the election on purpose? What?!


I don't think so.

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« Reply #392 on: October 28, 2016, 09:26:11 pm »
Perhaps they're only referring to Hillary.  Personally, I think Hillary's top, most trusted aide going down on national security issues is still a very big deal.  It's a direct reflection on her judgment and the kind of people she'd bring in with her.

And that's the charitable view.  The uncharitable view will be that she let her subordinate take the fall for her sins.

Either way, just because Hillary herself isn't indicted doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.

You couldn't find five out of five hundred Hillary voters who know who Huma Abedin is.

It will not matter.
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« Reply #393 on: October 28, 2016, 09:28:42 pm »
You couldn't find five out of five hundred Hillary voters who know who Huma Abedin is.

It will not matter.


Yeah, they'll just read the headline, which is "FBI investigates Clinton".


Still bad for her.

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« Reply #394 on: October 28, 2016, 09:29:55 pm »
Can you imagine the amount of pressure from below required to force Comey to do this now?  I can't.

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« Reply #395 on: October 28, 2016, 09:30:07 pm »

 
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Pete Williams just said on MSNBC that the FBI doesn't even know that the new emails aren't "duplicates" of emails they've already seen.
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Pete Williams just said on MSNBC that the FBI doesn't even know that the new emails aren't "duplicates" of emails they've already seen.


Is he speculating or does he know that?

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« Reply #397 on: October 28, 2016, 09:33:31 pm »

Is he speculating or does he know that?

He is shoveling sh&/!  Trying to cover for her.
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« Reply #398 on: October 28, 2016, 09:36:43 pm »
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Ed Rollins on Lous dobbs (summarized by daddY) links this to the Teneo scandal:

Rollins: The remaining 12 days of this campaign are going to be nothing but this story. I don't care what Hillary does advertising wise, or great organization or any other thing that she has some great advantages on, this is the story of the closing part of this campaign. First of all the FBI Director would not have reopened this if it wasn't very significant. My sense, and I'm not disclosing anything that I haven't already read in the papers, I worked for Teneo for 4 years. Teneo has been exposed the last couple days as a company that basically had close ties set up to Clinton Foundation, what have you. Huma Abedin came and worked for them for 4 or 5 months while she was still (garbled) Deputy Secretary of State. My sense is this may very well have been where this vehicle took place, and what Declan Kelly, who was the leader of that organization when Chuck Grassley was sort of chasing him about the role of Huma, is they had all the former Emails, any Email that was a year old erased from their company computer, so my sense is she probably thought whatever she had on her computer was gone. I think this may have been the outside computer that she used at home or what have you, but I'm confident that everything that she was supposed to get from Hillary went through that computer and obviously he had access to it.

Lou: And the likelihood is great that there are a lot of Emails that perhaps Hillary Clinton and her associates in the Clinton Cartel, whether we're talking about the Foundation, the State Department, her own Campaign, they thought had been eliminated, that perhaps were not.
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Sounds to me like Ed Rollins knows more than he is letting on. Here's more of Ed Rollins on Teneo. He knows it was dirty and in a sense he is dirty for having worked there.
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Lou: Teneo...?

Rollins: There were a lot of good people there and they do some good work, but at the end of the day the top of this organization was basically very much in bed in doing things. Equally important, Justen Cooper, who was one of the young aides who destroyed with a hammer, who broke up all the devices, was very much a part of that set that set the original server up, as a body person for former president Clinton. His legal fees have been paid by the Clinton's for the last several months. So I mean, to a certain extent, it's not clean. You've got to look at them before you get to the bottom of all this, so I think you will. There's a lot to unravel before it's done.

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My take from listening to Ed Rollins is that he is having great difficulty in speaking in his usual straightforward manner, and is very very guardedly considering his sentences and mangling them in a strange, un-regular way. Wonder what and how much he really knows.
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