Author Topic: BREAKING: FBI PROBING NEW CLINTON EMAILS.. (Read 64292 times)

sinkspur · « **Reply #400 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:37:37 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 09:31:47 pm

Is he speculating or does he know that?

He's saying the FBI doesn't know.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #401 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:39:03 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 09:37:37 pm

He's saying the FBI doesn't know.

How does he know?

Letter says they "appear to be pertinent" I believe?

That doesn't equal "we don't know".

sinkspur · « **Reply #402 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:42:09 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 09:36:43 pm

Clarice Feldman
12 mins ·

Ed Rollins on Lous dobbs (summarized by daddY) links this to the Teneo scandal:

Rollins: The remaining 12 days of this campaign are going to be nothing but this story. I don't care what Hillary does advertising wise, or great organization or any other thing that she has some great advantages on, this is the story of the closing part of this campaign. First of all the FBI Director would not have reopened this if it wasn't very significant. My sense, and I'm not disclosing anything that I haven't already read in the papers, I worked for Teneo for 4 years. Teneo has been exposed the last couple days as a company that basically had close ties set up to Clinton Foundation, what have you. Huma Abedin came and worked for them for 4 or 5 months while she was still (garbled) Deputy Secretary of State. My sense is this may very well have been where this vehicle took place, and what Declan Kelly, who was the leader of that organization when Chuck Grassley was sort of chasing him about the role of Huma, is they had all the former Emails, any Email that was a year old erased from their company computer, so my sense is she probably thought whatever she had on her computer was gone. I think this may have been the outside computer that she used at home or what have you, but I'm confident that everything that she was supposed to get from Hillary went through that computer and obviously he had access to it.

Lou: And the likelihood is great that there are a lot of Emails that perhaps Hillary Clinton and her associates in the Clinton Cartel, whether we're talking about the Foundation, the State Department, her own Campaign, they thought had been eliminated, that perhaps were not.
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Sounds to me like Ed Rollins knows more than he is letting on. Here's more of Ed Rollins on Teneo. He knows it was dirty and in a sense he is dirty for having worked there.
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Lou: Teneo...?

Rollins: There were a lot of good people there and they do some good work, but at the end of the day the top of this organization was basically very much in bed in doing things. Equally important, Justen Cooper, who was one of the young aides who destroyed with a hammer, who broke up all the devices, was very much a part of that set that set the original server up, as a body person for former president Clinton. His legal fees have been paid by the Clinton's for the last several months. So I mean, to a certain extent, it's not clean. You've got to look at them before you get to the bottom of all this, so I think you will. There's a lot to unravel before it's done.

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My take from listening to Ed Rollins is that he is having great difficulty in speaking in his usual straightforward manner, and is very very guardedly considering his sentences and mangling them in a strange, un-regular way. Wonder what and how much he really knows.

Why would Ed Rollins know anything?

If it takes as long as Rollins took to explain this, Hillary's safe.

I know you think I'm just anti-Trump, but a lot of this is baked into the cake. Just as many of us who oppose Trump jumped offside thinking that the Access Hollywood tape would be the stake in the heart, so do many Republicans think this investigation of Huma Abedin is going to kill Hillary.

It won't and, I think, will die out a lot faster than Access Hollywood.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #403 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:43:14 pm »

The Washington Post obtained the text of the letter he sent to FBI employees. Here it is in full:

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To all:

This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation. Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case. Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression. In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.

Jim Comey

mystery-ak · « **Reply #404 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:46:06 pm »

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I know you think I'm just anti-Trump, but a lot of this is baked into the cake. Just as many of us who oppose Trump jumped offside thinking that the Access Hollywood tape would be the stake in the heart, so do many Republicans think this investigation of Huma Abedin is going to kill Hillary.

I'm not in the camp that thinks this will kill Hillary's campaign, but I do believe it may greatly harm her..polls show she is already not trusted and this will add more fuel to the fire no matter how it plays out.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #405 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:47:05 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 09:43:14 pm

The Washington Post obtained the text of the letter he sent to FBI employees. Here it is in full:

Says right there, "They appear to pertinent".

Far cry from "may even be duplicates" etc. etc.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #406 on:** October 28, 2016, 09:58:53 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 09:47:05 pm

Says right there, "They appear to pertinent".

Far cry from "may even be duplicates" etc. etc.

The Clinton campaign are saying they maybe duplicates...Comey has only released two statements today and both posted here.

r9etb · « **Reply #407 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:00:36 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 09:47:05 pm

Says right there, "They appear to be pertinent".

And if he's saying "appear to be pertinent" in public (or semi-public), I think it implies that the investigative team told him something pretty big. Why else would he stir up this hornet nest at this point in the campaign?

I'm still trying to get my head around the possible reasons....

bigheadfred · « **Reply #408 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:02:51 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 09:46:06 pm

I'm not in the camp that thinks this will kill Hillary's campaign, but I do believe it may greatly harm her..polls show she is already not trusted and this will add more fuel to the fire no matter how it plays out.

@sinkspur

hillary in her statement reveals she doesn't know what they have. She is worried. She urges people to get out and vote EARLY. With the news ACA rates are increasing up to 25% that hurts her too. She isn't having a good time right now.

sinkspur · « **Reply #409 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:05:36 pm »

Quote from: r9etb on October 28, 2016, 10:00:36 pm

And if he's saying "appear to be pertinent" in public (or semi-public), I think it implies that the investigative team told him something pretty big. Why else would he stir up this hornet nest at this point in the campaign?

I'm still trying to get my head around the possible reasons....

Comey will have to justify coming forward now with this, at some point. Sooner rather than later.

If he doesn't, and Hillary wins, his career is over.

r9etb · « **Reply #410 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:06:57 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 09:58:53 pm

The Clinton campaign are saying they maybe duplicates...Comey has only released two statements today and both posted here.

OK, this is the Clinton machine we're talking about, so they may be telling the barest of bare truth that these are "duplicates" of something the FBI had seen. But duplicates of what?

One would think that if they're "duplicates" of stuff the FBI has already seen, then they wouldn't justify re-opening the investigation, having already been cleared by them, supposedly. But Comey is re-opening the investigation, so there's something different about these "duplicates." Some new information that was not included in the original investigation.

Which makes me wonder. Maybe they were duplicates of emails that were kept out of view due to an immunity deal. For example, suppose in the FBI's immunity deal they agreed not to use any emails found on Cheryl Mills' computer. But if they were found on Anthony Wiener's computer, and also on Huma's computer.... then they're not covered by the deal.

Something like that....

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #411 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:07:07 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 09:58:53 pm

The Clinton campaign are saying they maybe duplicates...Comey has only released two statements today and both posted here.

Right so Williams or whoever says they may be duplicates as if he has insider information. And is promptly posted by Sinkspur who wants to ruin our fun...

TomSea · « **Reply #412 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:08:40 pm »

It's hard to think the FBI would be so inept that they would stir this up over "duplicates", sounds like a tall tale to me, sounds like damage control.

"Oh, the FBI has already seen these"

bigheadfred · « **Reply #413 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:08:42 pm »

Quote from: r9etb on October 28, 2016, 10:06:57 pm

OK, this is the Clinton machine we're talking about, so they may be telling the barest of bare truth that these are "duplicates" of something the FBI had seen. But duplicates of what?

One would think that if they're "duplicates" of stuff the FBI has already seen, then they wouldn't justify re-opening the investigation, having already been cleared by them, supposedly. But Comey is re-opening the investigation, so there's something different about these "duplicates." Some new information that was not included in the original investigation.

Which makes me wonder. Maybe they were duplicates of emails that were kept out of view due to an immunity deal. For example, suppose in the FBI's immunity deal they agreed not to use any emails found on Cheryl Mills' computer. But if they were found on Anthony Wiener's computer, and also on Huma's computer.... then they're not covered by the deal.

Something like that....

Right. Does anyone know the exact language of those immunity deals?

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #414 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:10:48 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:05:36 pm

Comey will have to justify coming forward now with this, at some point. Sooner rather than later.

If he doesn't, and Hillary wins, his career is over.

Yeah if Comey came out and said that he was essentially reopening the email investigation 2 weeks before a huge election over a damn nothing burger he better believe his career is over, lol. Unless he's drinking on or bath salts...

I remember in the summer this guy was like Mr. Integrity after the email scandal.

So unless there is something here then this is downright bizarre.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #415 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:11:41 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 10:07:07 pm

Right so Williams or whoever says they may be duplicates as if he has insider information. And is promptly posted by Sinkspur who wants to ruin our fun...

I don't know where the *duplicate* story came from but it did not come from Comey's public released statements......and we all know Williams is a Clinton lapdog...so I imagine he is spreading this part of the story.

r9etb · « **Reply #416 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:12:20 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:05:36 pm

If he doesn't, and Hillary wins, his career is over.

I think his career is over, regardless. His behavior in the denouement of the original investigation has damaged his reputation for "scrupulous honesty," to the point where I think he is no longer trusted. For now, he's hanging on to the end of Obama's term, and that'll be the end of it.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #417 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:14:37 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 10:11:41 pm

I don't know where the *duplicate* story came from but it did not come from Comey's public released statements......and we all know Williams is a Clinton lapdog...so I imagine he is spreading this part of the story.

I think Williams was speculating "they may be duplicates". Then this was retweeted to become "fact".

bigheadfred · « **Reply #418 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:16:39 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 10:07:07 pm

Right so Williams or whoever says they may be duplicates as if he has insider information. And is promptly posted by Sinkspur who wants to ruin our fun...

heh heh heh no chance...

mystery-ak · « **Reply #419 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:16:48 pm »

This is from Daily Kos and no mention of duplicates

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/28/1587968/-NBC-Pete-Williams-they-are-not-e-mails-from-Clinton-I-say-w-out-clarification-Comey-must-resign

NBC/Pete Williams: 'they are not e-mails from Clinton'. I say w/out clarification Comey must resign

r9etb · « **Reply #420 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:25:10 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 10:16:48 pm

NBC/Pete Williams: 'they are not e-mails from Clinton'. I say w/out clarification Comey must resign

Hmmmm. Comey didn't do this on his own. It wasn't spur of the moment, and it wasn't a solo act. Something as big as this involved a lot of people, beginning with the investigative team that briefed Comey; and then all the lawyers and advisors who worked with him prior to his sending the letter out.

So they're not "from Clinton?" OK -- but they're pertinent to the investigation and important enough to announce before the election. And other stories have it that Huma Abedin was involved, and likely to have sent things to her own and Wiener's account so that she could print them out for Hillary Clinton.

This is the damndest thing...

bigheadfred · « **Reply #421 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:30:39 pm »

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Trisha Peach @Ptrishapeach
Reddit is showing that Obama today quietly cancelled several upcoming Hillary rally appearances. #HillarysEmails
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bigheadfred · « **Reply #422 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:33:08 pm »

Oceander · « **Reply #423 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:35:20 pm »

Quote from: r9etb on October 28, 2016, 10:25:10 pm

Hmmmm. Comey didn't do this on his own. It wasn't spur of the moment, and it wasn't a solo act. Something as big as this involved a lot of people, beginning with the investigative team that briefed Comey; and then all the lawyers and advisors who worked with him prior to his sending the letter out.

So they're not "from Clinton?" OK -- but they're pertinent to the investigation and important enough to announce before the election. And other stories have it that Huma Abedin was involved, and likely to have sent things to her own and Wiener's account so that she could print them out for Hillary Clinton.

This is the damndest thing...

It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #424 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:36:19 pm »

r9etb · « **Reply #425 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:39:55 pm »

Quote from: Oceander on October 28, 2016, 10:35:20 pm

It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.

Perhaps so. The fact that she's been Hillary's closest aide and advisor for however many years, though -- makes the "betrayed by a rogue aide" excuse a bit tough to swallow.

sinkspur · « **Reply #426 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:39:58 pm »

From the LA Times:

sinkspur · « **Reply #427 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:42:32 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 10:11:41 pm

I don't know where the *duplicate* story came from but it did not come from Comey's public released statements......and we all know Williams is a Clinton lapdog...so I imagine he is spreading this part of the story.

Pete Williams is a former Cheney aide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Williams_(journalist)

r9etb · « **Reply #428 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:43:21 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:39:58 pm

From the LA Times:

Well, maybe.... but if it's really no big deal, why create this firestorm now, when you have all the time in the world after the election to exercise an "abundance of caution" about pertinent emails that turned up in an "unrelated case?"

mystery-ak · « **Reply #429 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:44:53 pm »

Quote from: Oceander on October 28, 2016, 10:35:20 pm

It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.

Hillary's victim days are over..she played that card with Bill..her likeability and trust polling are rock bottom as it is..this will harm her, how much remains to be seen.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #430 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:47:38 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:42:32 pm

Pete Williams is a former Cheney aide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Williams_(journalist)

He is *one of them*..I believe nothing coming from him or MSNBC/NBC

bigheadfred · « **Reply #431 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:47:58 pm »

Quote from: Oceander on October 28, 2016, 10:35:20 pm

It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.

It is OK for you to downplay this because you are an informed voter. What are the on the fence people going to think?

sinkspur · « **Reply #432 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:49:06 pm »

This note to FBI employees sure makes Comey look tentative about what he did:

I wish you would learn to reduce images

mystery-ak · « **Reply #433 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:49:13 pm »

Quote from: r9etb on October 28, 2016, 10:43:21 pm

Well, maybe.... but if it's really no big deal, why create this firestorm now, when you have all the time in the world after the election to exercise an "abundance of caution" about pertinent emails that turned up in an "unrelated case?"

Unless you see Comey actually speaking disregard everything the MSM says or writes

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #434 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:50:43 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:39:58 pm

From the LA Times:

Do you have a link so I can read the entire article?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #435 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:51:37 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:49:06 pm

This note to FBI employees sure makes Comey look tentative about what he did:

I see it differently of course

bigheadfred · « **Reply #436 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:53:45 pm »

Quote from: Scutter on October 28, 2016, 10:52:05 pm

Yep. We're all just going to have to wait and see. My expectation is that nothing will be resolved prior to the election, and all we'll get between now and then is speculation and spin.

Are there more wikileaks dumps coming?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #437 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:55:31 pm »

Quote from: Scutter on October 28, 2016, 10:52:05 pm

Yep. We're all just going to have to wait and see. My expectation is that nothing will be resolved prior to the election, and all we'll get between now and then is speculation and spin.

Most Likely

sinkspur · « **Reply #438 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:56:41 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 10:50:43 pm

Do you have a link so I can read the entire article?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html

mystery-ak · « **Reply #439 on:** October 28, 2016, 10:58:17 pm »

Look at it this way...Hillary herself is shaken..she had to put herself in from of the press tonight something she hates to do...albeit it was a friendly presser...remember this is an ongoing investigation and Comey will/should not make anymore statements now...so we won't know anything until he decides to tell us.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #440 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:00:07 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 10:56:41 pm

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html

nothing new in that article

mystery-ak · « **Reply #441 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:01:27 pm »

Quote from: bigheadfred on October 28, 2016, 10:53:45 pm

Are there more wikileaks dumps coming?

Yes a biggie is expected that is supposed to really hurt Hillary...some suggest this is what prompted Comey to act today.

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #442 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:04:46 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 10:58:17 pm

Look at it this way...Hillary herself is shaken..she had to put herself in from of the press tonight something she hates to do...albeit it was a friendly presser...remember this is an ongoing investigation and Comey will/should not make anymore statements now...so we won't know anything until he decides to tell us.

Listen lady. This was a huge F U from the establishment today. Hitlary was shit on. The paridigm has shifted.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #443 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:04:57 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 28, 2016, 11:00:07 pm

nothing new in that article

They have an unnamed "official" saying this or that.

Even if nothing comes of this, I think the whole thing will put a bad taste in American's mouths. I know it has for me.

Hillary is above the law, as we all know.

TomSea · « **Reply #444 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:05:11 pm »

It must have been a very short press conference as well; only minutes, I didn't see it but that is what it sounds like.

sinkspur · « **Reply #445 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:05:21 pm »

This Comey thing is going to turn out to be a big nothing.

Except it will reveal Comey to be a political animal, and he'll be gone in a Clinton Administration.

sinkspur · « **Reply #446 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:07:28 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 11:04:57 pm

They have an unnamed "official" saying this or that.

Even if nothing comes of this, I think the whole thing will put a bad taste in American's mouths. I know it has for me.

Hillary is above the law, as we all know.

And I think it will come off as entirely political and make Hillary look like a victim.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #447 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:08:08 pm »

Quote from: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 11:05:21 pm

This Comey thing is going to turn out to be a big nothing.

Except it will reveal Comey to be a political animal, and he'll be gone in a Clinton Administration.

He's history no matter who wins....he's a political hack imho

sinkspur · « **Reply #448 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:08:33 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 11:06:11 pm

So says the guy who pretended to be a preacher on Free Republic.

LOL!! You mad?

sinkspur · « **Reply #449 on:** October 28, 2016, 11:11:37 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 11:09:30 pm

Not at all. I feel bad about divulging this information actually...

So why did you do it?

I've never directed any anger at you.

I think I'll put you on ignore. You seem a bit schizophrenic.