Poll

IF DONALD TRUMP is our nominee, will you vote for him in the General?

YES! HE WAS CHOSEN AT THE CONVENTION
61 (36.1%)
NO! I WILL STAY HOME OR VOTE DOWN TICKET
68 (40.2%)
I WILL WRITE IN TED CRUZ!
37 (21.9%)
I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY!
3 (1.8%)

Total Members Voted: 158

Voting closed: May 07, 2016, 04:02:57 am

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« Reply #525 on: June 24, 2016, 07:45:40 pm »
Just throw a rock...you'll probably hit one.  [including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

Trump is advocating touch back amnesty.  But his supporters are ok with that now because Trump backs it.

Touch back is a horrible idea.  Can you imagine if theme parks had that policy?  All theme parks I know have a policy if you cut in line you get kicked out...no refunds and not allowed back in.  So before someone cuts in line they will think twice.

Now if the policy was if you cut in line we send you to the end of the line then everyone will just cut because the worst thing to happen is you go to the end of the line (same place you would be if you followed the rules). 

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« Reply #526 on: June 24, 2016, 08:07:19 pm »
Because you think just because you don't believe Trump has honor and integrity that he can't get things done.

Fact is we need a real SOB to get these sort of things accomplished. Someone with grit and determination.

Nope, Wolfcreek, I said nothing of the sort.  I actually wasn't even thinking of Trump; I was thinking of what we need in a candidate.

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« Reply #527 on: June 24, 2016, 08:33:20 pm »
Trump is advocating touch back amnesty.  But his supporters are ok with that now because Trump backs it.

Touch back is a horrible idea.  Can you imagine if theme parks had that policy?  All theme parks I know have a policy if you cut in line you get kicked out...no refunds and not allowed back in.  So before someone cuts in line they will think twice.

Now if the policy was if you cut in line we send you to the end of the line then everyone will just cut because the worst thing to happen is you go to the end of the line (same place you would be if you followed the rules).

He's advocating a wall to finally control our southern border. That's where we start.

Some, like the Dreamers, deserve to be first in line....right behind those doing it legally.
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« Reply #528 on: June 24, 2016, 08:35:51 pm »
Nope, Wolfcreek, I said nothing of the sort.  I actually wasn't even thinking of Trump; I was thinking of what we need in a candidate.

You know as well as I that 99 times out of 100 when a politician [no matter who] gets elected and goes to DC, they are turned.

We need someone who not looking to get wealthy on the backs of the taxpayer of this country.
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« Reply #529 on: June 24, 2016, 10:00:52 pm »
"The problem" are the people thought Obama would make a better President than McCain and voted him into office.

"The problem" are those people who thought Obama would make a better President than Romney, and re-elected him.

"The problem" are the millions of people who think that a Socialist, an unconvicted felon, or a reality TV star make up the very best that this country, the country that gave the world Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan, have to offer as a leader.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

It was observed by a famous philosopher in the 1960's that "We has met the enemy,and he is us!"
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« Reply #530 on: June 24, 2016, 10:04:42 pm »

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

I am not dumping on you. This is a serious question,and I would appreciate a serious response. WHAT is it about Trump and his known history that convinces you that he would do anything any differently than Bubbette?

Other than the Big Red "R" he is wearing on his chest this year,that is?

  Ok,two questions. "Do you think ANY president we have had since Reagan left office has been even remotely conservative?"
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« Reply #531 on: June 24, 2016, 10:08:38 pm »
He's YOUR Lucifer.

I accept no Lucifer.

I don't understand why anyone would willingly vote for anyone they think is evil. Even if you think they are a lesser evil,you are STILL knowing voting for evil.

Which is EXACTLY what brought us the Bush Crime Family,and nominations for traitors like McLunatic and dedicated One Worlders like Romney. Someone PLEASE explain to me why any of that was a positive move to make to save our nation and way of life.
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« Reply #532 on: June 24, 2016, 10:12:15 pm »
Dustin Ulsterman

#‎Brexit‬ my-oh-my it's looking like the Brits are about to punch the globalists right in the mouth if these results hold. The political elite are losing their sh*t over this. They are stunned beyond belief this might be happening.

Hold on GB. Sound the call. America is preparing to do something similar.

TRUMP 2016<<

DC,are you claiming "Mr Bankrupt in Mexico so he would steal the life savings of US retirees and not go to court over it in the US." is not a globalist?
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« Reply #533 on: June 24, 2016, 10:15:12 pm »
Someone should ask Trump tomorrow to comment on the devaluation of the pound sterling, the bottom falling out of the US stock market and why that's a good thing.

He won't have an answer because he's effing clueless about economics.

He's clueless about everything but hiring good lawyers to represent him,and he cares nothing about what is good for anyone that isn't him or one of his Mini-Me's.

Trump is smart enough to hire and take the advise of good lawyers,and that's where it ends.

You can be sure there was a plan in place to benefit him before he ever announced because he has been personally making millions from running for office by charging all his expenses to his campaign,renting his private jet to his campaign,billing his campaign for his food,travel,bodyguards,and everything else,including the hats he buys from a company that he owns.

Trump is the world's biggest male whore.
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« Reply #534 on: June 24, 2016, 10:19:22 pm »
Why?

I trusted my life in GWB's hands too!



Yet you seem to  have not learned a damn thing about false political  prophets.
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« Reply #535 on: June 24, 2016, 10:22:47 pm »
Nope, that's not what I said.

Tell me this Pete, if you were a 70 year old billionaire with a beautiful wife and loving children, would you take time out of your life to run for President?

No,but I am not a narcissistic sociopath on a global ego-trip.
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« Reply #536 on: June 24, 2016, 10:24:21 pm »

It's time to move on. Bring on the Revolution!

I agree,but Trump ain't nothing but more "Business as usual".
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« Reply #537 on: June 24, 2016, 10:27:22 pm »
Like someone to do something about the rotten trade deals, the rotten bailout to banks etc, the wide open borders, the constant flow of illegals taking jobs and our tax money, the over-regulation and multiple taxes to support ridiculous ideas like ObamaCare?? Any of those ring a bell?

Trump promised to fix these things. If there's no progress after 4 years, he's outta there. If Hillary is elected, all those things get worse.

Santa used to promise a lot of crap,too. Do you still believe in Santa?

The only difference is the Santa of your youth worked for the department stores that were trying to sell your parents a bill  of good,and todays's Santa used other people's money to buy the department store,and he is busying billing the store for everything he does,and planning on looting the store of any money left over before he bails.
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« Reply #538 on: June 24, 2016, 10:29:50 pm »
My only KING is my savior Jesus Christ.


Is he a mean-mouthed old fat man with orange hair and skin?
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« Reply #539 on: June 24, 2016, 10:32:37 pm »
He's advocating a wall to finally control our southern border. That's where we start.


No,that is just a temporary campaign position that is open to negotiation,like everything else.
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« Reply #540 on: June 24, 2016, 10:35:44 pm »


We need someone who not looking to get wealthy on the backs of the taxpayer of this country.

You mean that someone whose business model is bankruptcy,and who makes their money from claiming bankruptcy after raiding the coffers of the business they are supposed to be running to pay their personal bills is someone you wouldn't support?

Is it possible that you don't know ANYTHING about Trump other than he claims to be a Republican?
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« Reply #541 on: June 25, 2016, 12:33:53 am »
I am not dumping on you. This is a serious question,and I would appreciate a serious response. WHAT is it about Trump and his known history that convinces you that he would do anything any differently than Bubbette?

Other than the Big Red "R" he is wearing on his chest this year,that is?

  Ok,two questions. "Do you think ANY president we have had since Reagan left office has been even remotely conservative?"

Thanks for your interest, @sneakypete !   BTW...you know I've told you I how much I appreciate and respect your raw edge.

And appreciate how you've kept 'it' in check!   :laugh:

Donald Trump is an entrepreneur.  He fixes things.  He builds things.

Our economy needs such a man with that perspective.  Handcuff the Department of the Interior and the Evironment, as well as the Department of Homeland Security. 

Get their boots off the necks of markets and business. 

All he has to do is promise to get people back into a 40 hour work week, because we're going back to free market health care providers.

Trillions of dollars will pour out of the 'woodwork'  We'll see booms that these YUTES have only read about.

And I have to believe that the part will have a strong influence on who he nominates for the Court.   It won't be any 'Sotomayor'. 

And I believe he will crack down on the open borders.

But I think he will be fair.

With Hillary, the IRS will treble down on how they made life miserable for Conservatives.  With Hillary, the 2nd Amendment is repealed outright.  The First Amendment will have limitations...said limitations decided by activist judges who vote straight party line.

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« Reply #542 on: June 25, 2016, 12:36:57 am »
Why on earth should we vote for someone who has to be "kept in check"?  Screw that.

And there won't be a Republican Senate, for sure. 

You continue to ask that we vote for an unpredictable, unstable candidate who has to be put on a leash.

No thanks.

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« Reply #543 on: June 25, 2016, 12:58:43 am »
Thanks for your interest, @sneakypete !   BTW...you know I've told you I how much I appreciate and respect your raw edge.

And appreciate how you've kept 'it' in check!   :laugh:

Donald Trump is an entrepreneur.  He fixes things.  He builds things.

Our economy needs such a man with that perspective.  Handcuff the Department of the Interior and the Evironment, as well as the Department of Homeland Security. 

Get their boots off the necks of markets and business. 

All he has to do is promise to get people back into a 40 hour work week, because we're going back to free market health care providers.

Trillions of dollars will pour out of the 'woodwork'  We'll see booms that these YUTES have only read about.

And I have to believe that the part will have a strong influence on who he nominates for the Court.   It won't be any 'Sotomayor'. 

And I believe he will crack down on the open borders.

But I think he will be fair.

With Hillary, the IRS will treble down on how they made life miserable for Conservatives.  With Hillary, the 2nd Amendment is repealed outright.  The First Amendment will have limitations...said limitations decided by activist judges who vote straight party line.

Thank you for the honest response. If that is what you really believe,that is what you really believe.
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« Reply #544 on: June 25, 2016, 01:17:02 am »
Thanks for your interest, @sneakypete !   BTW...you know I've told you I how much I appreciate and respect your raw edge.

And appreciate how you've kept 'it' in check!   :laugh:

Donald Trump is an entrepreneur.  He fixes things.  He builds things.

Our economy needs such a man with that perspective.  Handcuff the Department of the Interior and the Evironment, as well as the Department of Homeland Security. 

Get their boots off the necks of markets and business. 

All he has to do is promise to get people back into a 40 hour work week, because we're going back to free market health care providers.

Trillions of dollars will pour out of the 'woodwork'  We'll see booms that these YUTES have only read about.

And I have to believe that the part will have a strong influence on who he nominates for the Court.   It won't be any 'Sotomayor'. 

And I believe he will crack down on the open borders.

But I think he will be fair.

With Hillary, the IRS will treble down on how they made life miserable for Conservatives.  With Hillary, the 2nd Amendment is repealed outright.  The First Amendment will have limitations...said limitations decided by activist judges who vote straight party line.

One of your best summations and right on the mark!

Thank you for the honest response. If that is what you really believe,that is what you really believe.

Ditto for me, what he said.

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« Reply #545 on: June 25, 2016, 01:25:50 am »
Thanks for your interest, @sneakypete !   BTW...you know I've told you I how much I appreciate and respect your raw edge.

And appreciate how you've kept 'it' in check!   :laugh:

Donald Trump is an entrepreneur.  He fixes things.  He builds things.

Our economy needs such a man with that perspective.  Handcuff the Department of the Interior and the Evironment, as well as the Department of Homeland Security. 

Get their boots off the necks of markets and business. 

All he has to do is promise to get people back into a 40 hour work week, because we're going back to free market health care providers.

Trillions of dollars will pour out of the 'woodwork'  We'll see booms that these YUTES have only read about.

And I have to believe that the part will have a strong influence on who he nominates for the Court.   It won't be any 'Sotomayor'. 

And I believe he will crack down on the open borders.

But I think he will be fair.

With Hillary, the IRS will treble down on how they made life miserable for Conservatives.  With Hillary, the 2nd Amendment is repealed outright.  The First Amendment will have limitations...said limitations decided by activist judges who vote straight party line.

I want (most of) those things too,  That's why I oppose Trump.  If Trump's the nominee,  Hillary will win. 

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« Reply #546 on: June 25, 2016, 01:33:47 am »
I want (most of) those things too,  That's why I oppose Trump.  If Trump's the nominee,  Hillary will win. 

Save the message.  Replace the messenger.   

First of all...it's too late.  No momentum going into Cleveland? 

Secondly, Trump is Secretariat.  Trump is Sea Biscuit.  Why would you bet against him?

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« Reply #547 on: June 25, 2016, 01:35:28 am »
First of all...it's too late.  No momentum going into Cleveland? 

Secondly, Trump is Secretariat.  Trump is Sea Biscuit.  Why would you bet against him?



Well, he certainly is some part of a horse's anatomy, that's for sure.

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« Reply #548 on: June 25, 2016, 01:35:33 am »
One of your best summations and right on the mark!

Ditto for me, what he said.

Thanks, my friend.    :beer:
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« Reply #549 on: June 25, 2016, 02:05:39 am »
Secondly, Trump is Secretariat.  Trump is Sea Biscuit.  Why would you bet against him?

1. He is not Conservative in any fashion.
2. He is of an incredibly low character.
3. 70% of the electorate cannot stand him.
4. His mouth is big enough to contain both his feet at the same time.

The first two points remove any hope of principled change, even if he were to win.
The second two points remove any hope of winning.