(POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

[wolfcreek]

Let me reiterate, If you are for AMNESTY, you are a traitor to the country and the rule of law. IMO

Otherwise, that was really sweet. 

[catfish1957]

Let me reiterate, If you are for AMNESTY, you are a traitor to the country and the rule of law. IMO

Otherwise, that was really sweet. 

Someone here is advocating amnesty?   Who?

[Luis Gonzalez]

I wasn't among those who came to your defense Luis and that was because long experience has taught me that you didn't need me to! 

We're good Bigun.

 

[wolfcreek]

Someone here is advocating amnesty?   Who?

Just throw a rock...you'll probably hit one.  [including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

[DCPatriot]

Just throw a rock...you'll probably hit one.  [including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

Keep up the good fight, my FRiend!   I read all of your posts.

I have what I used to consider "close FRiends",   heck, almost 'family'...in the #nevertrump camp. 

And based strictly on what is at risk, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...don't think I haven't begun to wonder in sadness, just how could I have been wrong about them.

How couldn't I have seen the rigidness to an opinion that has gotten to the point that they are willing to see Hillary Clinton win...just so they can feel appreciated. 

They've never once shown such a trait.   Some going back as far as Schiavo and Elian.   

I refuse to engage them anymore.   Once in awhile, I'll chirp in when I see something egregious.   Otherwise, talk to the hand. 

 

[INVAR]

Just throw a rock...you'll probably hit one.  [including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

Ahhhh, he comes to what he intended to say from the beginning but buried in a racist screed instead.

Let me translate what they mean once again: 'If you do not vote for Trump, you are a traitor'.  That's their insistent view.  They will toss bigotry in there as a bonus too.

And yet the Trump Militant wonder aloud (to make themselves appear magnanimous), how it is that some of us won't give their prince a pass and seem more willing to fight Trump and his hordes than Hildabeast and her hordes.

The answer is that we think their prince and the Trump militant pose a greater threat to our liberty than Hildabeast does.

i.e.:, I've not received promises of death for treason from her hordes like I have the Trump Militant. 

[Oceander]

Keep up the good fight, my FRiend!   I read all of your posts.

I have what I used to consider "close FRiends",   heck, almost 'family'...in the #nevertrump camp. 

And based strictly on what is at risk, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...don't think I haven't begun to wonder in sadness, just how could I have been wrong about them.

How couldn't I have seen the rigidness to an opinion that has gotten to the point that they are willing to see Hillary Clinton win...just so they can feel appreciated. 

They've never once shown such a trait.   Some going back as far as Schiavo and Elian.   

I refuse to engage them anymore.   Once in awhile, I'll chirp in when I see something egregious.   Otherwise, talk to the hand. 

 

But you'll still go around trashing the forum itself, and attacking new members who don't kowtow to you. 

[mystery-ak]

[including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

I am tired of seeing this as an argument here...no one here that I know of has endorsed Hillary...

[musiclady]

Just throw a rock...you'll probably hit one.  [including those who would just as soon see Hillary as POTUS]

I hate to be repetitious, but it is those of you who have blindly supported Trump (and echoed his racism) who have enabled Hillary to become POTUS.  YOU have done this, wolfcreek.

There's not a person on this forum opposing Trump who wants Hillary to be President. 

That is a bald faced lie, and you really need to stop repeating it.

It would be difficult to dig yourself any deeper into your slimy hole, but you seem intent on doing it.   

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I am tired of seeing this as an argument here...no one here that I know of has endorsed Hillary...

 

[wolfcreek]

I am tired of seeing this as an argument here...no one here that I know of has endorsed Hillary...

Sorry but, that's just the reality of the situation.

[wolfcreek]

I hate to be repetitious, but it is those of you who have blindly supported Trump (and echoed his racism) who have enabled Hillary to become POTUS.  YOU have done this, wolfcreek.

There's not a person on this forum opposing Trump who wants Hillary to be President. 

That is a bald faced lie, and you really need to stop repeating it.

It would be difficult to dig yourself any deeper into your slimy hole, but you seem intent on doing it.   

Put me on ignore if you don't like what I say.

[DCPatriot]

I am tired of seeing this as an argument here...no one here that I know of has endorsed Hillary...

I made a distinction in my post.

Seeing as how it's down to Trump/Clinton...the very fact that one in here is #nevertrump says that they would rather have Hillary as President.

That's not "endorsing".   It's just a statement indicating they've chosen the Hill on which to die    Pun intended.

[Oceander]

I made a distinction in my post.

Seeing as how it's down to Trump/Clinton...the very fact that one in here is #nevertrump says that they would rather have Hillary as President.

That's not "endorsing".   It's just a statement indicating they've chosen the Hill on which to die    Pun intended.

Utterly false. 

[musiclady]

Put me on ignore if you don't like what I say.

You're not worth the bother.  You regurgitate mindless propaganda, and don't tell the truth, but you're still not worth putting on ignore.

btw, it's not that I don't "like" what you say.

It's that what you say is completely untrue. 

And I like truth.

Ergo, I don't like the one you have chosen to worship......

[musiclady]

I made a distinction in my post.

Seeing as how it's down to Trump/Clinton...the very fact that one in here is #nevertrump says that they would rather have Hillary as President.

That's not "endorsing".   It's just a statement indicating they've chosen the Hill on which to die    Pun intended.

No matter how many times people you know and used to respect tell the truth about NOT supporting Hillary, you still choose to slander us.

It's shameful, DC.   

[DCPatriot]

No matter how many times people you know and used to respect tell the truth about NOT supporting Hillary, you still choose to slander us.

It's shameful, DC.   

No...what's shameful is that I have to put YOU on ignore.   

[DCPatriot]

Utterly false.

Will you vote for Donald Trump in November?   

If not...you're part of the problem and not a solution.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

Today, it was 4-4 at the SCOTUS that kept Obama's illegal amnesty for 5 million from becoming reality.

That's utterly true.   

[INVAR]

Will you vote for Donald Trump in November?   

If not...you're part of the problem and not a solution.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

What do you intend to do about it big guy?

Advocate killing us for treason like your Trump Militant faithful have been gleefully suggesting???

[sitetest]

See you later folks.  I see that liars for stumpy are allowed to utter any damned (and I do mean dsmned) at humans and we're expected to take, but we humans are told "no personal attacks."

I've seen this movie before.  It didn't have a happy ending.

[DCPatriot]

But you'll still go around trashing the forum itself, and attacking new members who don't kowtow to you.

I have never trashed the forum.

It's called "tough love".

If I didn't give a sh*t, I'd have simply faded away like other Trump supporters.

And that point holds more sway now than ever.

Trump or Hillary?

If you can't pledge to vote for the Nominee against Hillary Clinton in November, then you've assisted Hillary Clinton and the Left.

Have a nice day, @Oceander   

[Oceander]

I have never trashed the forum.

It's called "tough love".

If I didn't give a sh*t, I'd have simply faded away like other Trump supporters.

And that point holds more sway now than ever.

Trump or Hillary?

If you can't pledge to vote for the Nominee against Hillary Clinton in November, then you've assisted Hillary Clinton and the Left.

Have a nice day, @Oceander   

Yes, you have.  Attacking the forum and attacking new members is not tough love, it's utterly disrespectful and out of bounds.   You are lucky Mystery-ak has all the honor you lack. 

that I won't vote for Trump does not mean I support Clinton.  That is a logical falsehood.  I will support the GOP nominee if that person is someone I can trust.  I cannot trust Trump and therefore will not support him.

[musiclady]

No...what's shameful is that I have to put YOU on ignore.   

Because I believe what I have always believed and still stand for what I have always stood for?

Because I oppose both Hillary and Trump, and don't like to be lied about?

Is THAT why you need to put me on "Ignore?"

For my consistency and honor??

[musiclady]

See you later folks.  I see that liars for stumpy are allowed to utter any damned (and I do mean dsmned) at humans and we're expected to take, but we humans are told "no personal attacks."

I've seen this movie before.  It didn't have a happy ending.

Don't go anywhere.

We need to keep fighting the falsehoods, and the more we have doing it, the better.

I have no doubt that the lies against us will continue, but we can't let the bullies win.

We have to counter with TRUTH every time we can.

[musiclady]

Yes, you have.  Attacking the forum and attacking new members is not tough love, it's utterly disrespectful and out of bounds.   You are lucky Mystery-ak has all the honor you lack. 

that I won't vote for Trump does not mean I support Clinton.  That is a logical falsehood.  I will support the GOP nominee if that person is someone I can trust.  I cannot trust Trump and therefore will not support him.

Logic is clearly not the strong suit of someone who's so emotionally invested that he can't think straight any more.

If he just heard himself say those stupid words out loud, he'd be ashamed......

[Bigun]

I am tired of seeing this as an argument here...no one here that I know of has endorsed Hillary...

This is the perfect example of what I mean by circular argument! This little diddy has been refuted countless times already here yet there it is again!

[musiclady]

This is the perfect example of what I mean by circular argument! This little diddy has been refuted countless times already here yet there it is again!

It's all they've got Bigun.  That's what happens when you can't handle the truth.

[DB]

See you later folks.  I see that liars for stumpy are allowed to utter any damned (and I do mean dsmned) at humans and we're expected to take, but we humans are told "no personal attacks."

I've seen this movie before.  It didn't have a happy ending.

It seems to me the lies have been refuted as they should have. What is most important is that refuting the lies is allowed. TOS didn't allow that and that IS the difference.

You are not alone here by any means. I've been too busy the last month or so to have much participation.

[roamer_1]

Will you vote for Donald Trump in November?   
If not...you're part of the problem and not a solution.
 

That presupposes that Trump is the solution.
He is not.

[Oceander]

Will you vote for Donald Trump in November?   

If not...you're part of the problem and not a solution.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

Today, it was 4-4 at the SCOTUS that kept Obama's illegal amnesty for 5 million from becoming reality.

That's utterly true.   

No, I won't, because he is just as bad as Clinton.  I'm not some rube who knows nothing of NYC politics; I live here, and I know all about Trump and his type.  He is at least as liberal as Bloomberg is, and probably more so since NYC real estate is much more crony capitalist than is the information services industry.  And nothing Trump says can be taken at value because he's an admitted liar; he revels in the sport of telling lies in negotiations to try and get one over on the marks.  He cannot be trusted. 

It's six of one, half dozen of the other as between Clinton and Trump; he is just as much a part of the problem as she is. 

[sneakypete]

Reality: If the "majority" of the GOP voters don't get behind the nominee, it's going to be a tough 4 to 8 years [or much longer] for this country.

So,even you are saying there will be no change.

 I really wish we had the option to vote for someone that puts America ahead of self,but it looks like those days are gone forever.

[sneakypete]

Someone here is advocating amnesty?   Who?

That may be a stretch. We all know that Bubbette! and the entire DNC is pro-amnesty and open borders,and we all know that Trump is pro-amnesty and open borders when it comes to people willing to work cheap for his corporations,and we suspect it goes deeper than that.

[sneakypete]

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How couldn't I have seen the rigidness to an opinion that has gotten to the point that they are willing to see Hillrary Clinton win...just so they can feel appreciated. 

 
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Well,you and I are not "old friends on the net" as far as I go,but for ME,it has nothing to do with a need to feel appreciated. I have Asperger's,and don't really give a damn if anyone likes me or not.

I am never Trump because I have given up on the political system,and see him being elected as nothing more than a temporary prop to keep the slaves from revolting for another year or two and they start another war somewhere to distract us.

I will NEVER be the first one to fire a shot,and I will NEVER encourage anyone else to do so either,but IMHO the revolution needs to happen within the next couple of years or it will never happen and we will once again be subjects instead of citizens. I see it happening regardless of if Trump or Bubbette! is the stand-in standing in at the WH,so since it is going to happen anyhow,LET THE GAMES BEGIN! The sooner it happens the better if individual freedoms and America is to survive.

Either way,national elections are now a sham and so is what passes for the Two Party System today. Both candidates "work for" the betterment of the same people,themselves.  I don't see this changing unless the public rises up and forces changes.
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[Luis Gonzalez]

Will you vote for Donald Trump in November?   

If not...you're part of the problem and not a solution.

"The problem" are the people thought Obama would make a better President than McCain and voted him into office.

"The problem" are those people who thought Obama would make a better President than Romney, and re-elected him.

"The problem" are the millions of people who think that a Socialist, an unconvicted felon, or a reality TV star make up the very best that this country, the country that gave the world Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan, have to offer as a leader.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

[mystery-ak]

"The problem" are the people thought Obama would make a better President than McCain and voted him into office.

"The problem" are those people who thought Obama would make a better President than Romney, and re-elected him.

"The problem" are the millions of people who think that a Socialist, an unconvicted felon, or a reality TV star make up the very best that this country, the country that gave the world Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan, have. To offer a s a leader.

Any other bloviating is white noise.

love

[Luis Gonzalez]

This is the perfect example of what I mean by circular argument! This little diddy has been refuted countless times already here yet there it is again!

For the several months between the day that Trump announced his candidacy to the day that the last GOP candidate fell out of the race, a significant number of hard-core Conservatives, libertarians, and broken-glass Republicans sounded the warning that A) Trump would lose to Hillary because his numbers are upside down, and B) that they would never support him, at either the Primary or General Election level, yet, those who supported Trump chose to ignore that group.

Well, they should have listened, and those who ignored me to this point can continue ignoring me, since I'll pay them no more attention that they paid me.

Best of luck.

#NeverTrump

[DCPatriot]

For the several months between the day that Trump announced his candidacy to the day that the last GOP candidate fell out of the race, a significant number of hard-core Conservatives, libertarians, and broken-glass Republicans sounded the warning that A) Trump would lose to Hillary because his numbers are upside down, and B) that they would never support him, at either the Primary or General Election level, yet, those who supported Trump chose to ignore that group.

Well, they should have listened, and those who ignored me to this point can continue ignoring me, since I'll pay them no more attention that they paid me.

Best of luck.

#NeverTrump

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

[Jazzhead]

That presupposes that Trump is the solution.
He is not.

Precisely.

To me, the priority is defeating Trump.  Why do you think I keep wanting, against all odds, to see him defeated at the convention?   Because THAT's the only way we're going to defeat Hillary!

DC,  the flaw in your logic is thinking that supporting Trump means opposition to Clinton.  TRUMP ENABLES HILLARY.  He is the one who makes her look good.   

If you're #NeverHillary,  you have to be #NeverTrump.  Simple as that,  DC. 

[Idiot]

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

Go back and proof read what you just wrote.  Pretty sick buddy...........

[Jazzhead]

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

But why, if you oppose Clinton, do you insist that we accept Lucifer as the alternative?   

I don't give a fig if 14 million voted for Lucifer.   I still want him replaced at the convention.   

[Luis Gonzalez]

I don't give a fig if Donald Trump is Lucifer.   He's MY Lucifer.  He's OUR Lucifer.

I'll still take that over Hillary Rodham Clinton and her stacked SCOTUS any day...any year.  for decades to come.

He's YOUR Lucifer.

I accept no Lucifer.

[DCPatriot]

Go back and proof read what you just wrote.  Pretty sick buddy...........

That's what some of the SOCONS call him.   Among other things in here.  I was using absurdity to make my point.

My point is that no matter what he is, he's represented by millions of Americans and controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate.

And an loud minority party with their sympathetic media....

[DCPatriot]

Dustin Ulsterman

#‎Brexit‬ my-oh-my it's looking like the Brits are about to punch the globalists right in the mouth if these results hold. The political elite are losing their sh*t over this. They are stunned beyond belief this might be happening.

Hold on GB. Sound the call. America is preparing to do something similar.

TRUMP 2016

[sinkspur]

That's what some of the SOCONS call him.   Among other things in here.  I was using absurdity to make my point.

My point is that no matter what he is, he's represented by millions of Americans and controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate.

And an loud minority party with their sympathetic media....

Why on earth should we vote for someone who has to be "kept in check"?  Screw that.

And there won't be a Republican Senate, for sure. 

You continue to ask that we vote for an unpredictable, unstable candidate who has to be put on a leash.

No thanks.

[Jazzhead]

That's what some of the SOCONS call him.   Among other things in here.  I was using absurdity to make my point.

My point is that no matter what he is, he's represented by millions of Americans and controlled/kept in check by a Republican-led House and Senate.

And an loud minority party with their sympathetic media....

Let me get this straight.  You don't care "no matter what he is",  because millions voted for him.   (A plurality, not a majority, but no matter).

That's he got a mob of supporters says nothing,  if that mob's supporting Lucifer.   

[sinkspur]

Dustin Ulsterman

Someone should ask Trump tomorrow to comment on the devaluation of the pound sterling, the bottom falling out of the US stock market and why that's a good thing.

He won't have an answer because he's effing clueless about economics.

[DCPatriot]

Let me get this straight.  You don't care "no matter what he is",  because millions voted for him.   (A plurality, not a majority, but no matter).

That's he got a mob of supporters says nothing,  if that mob's supporting Lucifer.

I don't care what he tries to be...because he's answering to millions who voted and supported him.   I trust him with my life.

Hillary Clinton?   Not so much.   

[Jazzhead]

I don't care what he tries to be...because he's answering to millions who voted and supported him.   I trust him with my life.
 

You realize that you're espousing cultism, don't you?   

[INVAR]

You realize that you're espousing cultism, don't you?   

He doesn't care.

He wants a dictator.

He doesn't care if it's Satan himself.

Trump is their messiah.

A king.

Someone who will punish those he himself hates.

That's why the Trump Militant are calling for the deaths of millions of Conservatives and Republicans who refuse to vote for him for Treason.

[DCPatriot]

You realize that you're espousing cultism, don't you?   

Why?

I trusted my life in GWB's hands too!

And Ronald Reagan's.

Look, Jazzhead...you guyz are just pissed that some of us saw a winner when you mocked and mocked and mocked.

And he's going to the next POTUS and you're pissed that you picked a loser...whoever the flavor de jour was at the time.

It makes all your heads explode...to the point the embarrassment of admitting you backed the wrong horse is too much for you to publicly accept.

I understand there's a word for it.......