(POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

[oldmomster]

If Hillary wins we have a chance of getting conservatives in congress to stop her agenda. 

I see the hope in the statement,  but the obamunist had two terms and they had both houses of congress for the second.  they did NOTHING.  not only that, this last omnibus bill gave dems more than they asked for.  Somehow, I don't trust them to fight hillary.

[For-Q-Clinton]

I see the hope in the statement,  but the obamunist had two terms and they had both houses of congress for the second.  they did NOTHING.  not only that, this last omnibus bill gave dems more than they asked for.  Somehow, I don't trust them to fight hillary.

True that's the dilemma we are in.  Do we vote for Trump and go left and pray he makes some good decisions.  Or do we vote Libertarian and pray congress can keep Hillary in check?  Both are bad choices.  But when faced with the lessor of two evils...choose neither.

[oldmomster]

True that's the dilemma we are in.  Do we vote for Trump and go left and pray he makes some good decisions.  Or do we vote Libertarian and pray congress can keep Hillary in check?  Both are bad choices.  But when faced with the lessor of two evils...choose neither.

then we will agree to disagree.

I have to admit that I have a visceral hatred for the Benghazi Bitch Hillary Clinton.

[wolfcreek]

then we will agree to disagree.

I have to admit that I have a visceral hatred for the Benghazi Bitch Hillary Clinton.

Unfortunately your hate for Hillary isn't shared by many here. I still don't understand why.

[Sanguine]

Unfortunately your hate for Hillary isn't shared by many here. I still don't understand why.

Wolfcreek, that is simply untrue.  You know better. 

[oldmomster]

Unfortunately your hate for Hillary isn't shared by many here. I still don't understand why.

Come on over to TCG for friendly conversation 

[sneakypete]

[quote author=Luis Gonzalez link=topic=203243msg934761#msg934761 date=146639609

>> I'd rather be dead wrong than right, because if I am right, if trump loses to Clinton and takes our Congressinal majorities down with him, or if he wins and he is as bad a President as I believe he would be, he will be the catalyst  for the destruction of effective right-wing politics in the U.S. for quite a long time.


[/quote]

Cheer up,Luis! The right -wing was effectively destroyed in this country after the actual Republicans took congress away from the Dims for the 1st time in 40 years,and then allowed life-long elected Dims from leftist states to switch parties and take over control of what is today,the alleged Republican Party; Ever since then it has been a race between the DNC and the RNC to see who can go the furthest life in the shortest time.

I see a defeat of Trump after he defeated all the fake and semi-fake "conservative" Republicans as a possible first big step to the long-overdue destruction of the today's alleged Republican Party,and the formation of a new actual conservative party that has sense enough to refuse to allow the movers and shakers from the RNC to join as anything other than voting members.

It is a FACT that EVERY time an actual conservative political runs for the WH,they win,and they usually win big. We keep forgetting that in these days of both major political parties being controlled by leftists/globalists. /size]

[sneakypete]

w
 

People who support Trump have moved on. If you want to be politically relevant,  I suggest you do the same.

Ahhh,yes! The old "join the winning party and you too can be a winner!" argument! Never mind that in "winning" you are moving one step closer to the destruction of America as a free and independent nation,YOU ARE ON THE WINNING SIDE!"

No thanks. Bring on the revolution.

[MACVSOG68]

Well the issue is if Trump wins who will be the party to push us to the right?  If Hillary wins we have a chance of getting conservatives in congress to stop her agenda.  If Trump wins we get more liberals in congress and he'll pass their agenda.

How do we wind up with conservatives in congress if Hillary wins but liberals there if Trump wins? 

[sneakypete]

It's a matter of which individual you prefer being in charge of violating the Constitution.

Trump exists in a world where there isn't a Congress or a Constitution. Where his will is all that matters and his experts will make those things he wants to happen, happen, and while I agree that a Hillary Presidency would be bad news, I can't even begin to make the argument that a Trump Imperial Presidency would be less bad.

Luis,what it really boils down to is that if you vote for either you have no right to call yourself a conservative because they are just different versions of the same globalist dictator. It's like having a choice of voting for Hitler or Stalin. Regardless of who wins,you ain't going to like it if you like living in a free country.

What it amounts to is you can choose to vote for whichever globalist you find the least offensive and be a "winner",or you can vote for neither and by voting for neither you have shown the powers that be that you have in effect voted to  be an American.

[sneakypete]

Typical Trump supporter.

Bigot follows a bigot.

Amnesty has not even entered into this equation, but you saw my last name and made the typically bigoted assumption.

Why don't you address the substance of the post instead of engaging in a Trump tactic?

Because you can't, and you can't because you lack the intellect to do it.

BINGO!

[For-Q-Clinton]

Unfortunately your hate for Hillary isn't shared by many here. I still don't understand why.

Our love for our country is greater.  If everyone voted Libertarian we could defeat Hillary and give us our freedom back!  So get on the Libertarian train and vote to defeat both evils.

[sneakypete]

I see the hope in the statement,  but the obamunist had two terms and they had both houses of congress for the second.  they did NOTHING.  not only that, this last omnibus bill gave dems more than they asked for.  Somehow, I don't trust them to fight hillary.

Ahhhh,but what you are overlooking is they love the power of being in office more than the Pope loves Jesus,and when/if they see the traditional conservative voters that usually can be counted on to follow the "vote for the lesser of two evils" Pied Piper desert them by a huge margin,they will start to get scared and then they will start to pay more attention to the voters than the lobbyists and other handlers in DC. After all,if you don't have a seat at the table you can collect any of the under the table money.

[For-Q-Clinton]

How do we wind up with conservatives in congress if Hillary wins but liberals there if Trump wins?

Almost always the party of the President loses seats in congress (unless it's a war or some extreme issue that the nation rallies around the flag).

But if we all vote libertarian then I'm not sure who will take over congress...let's try it.  It can't be worse then the other two options.

[wolfcreek]

Ahhh,yes! The old "join the winning party and you too can be a winner!" argument! Never mind that in "winning" you are moving one step closer to the destruction of America as a free and independent nation,YOU ARE ON THE WINNING SIDE!"

No thanks. Bring on the revolution.

No matter who wins, there will be some sort of revolution. In Hillary's case, a violent one, IMO.

[For-Q-Clinton]

No matter who wins, there will be some sort of revolution. In Hillary's case, a violent one, IMO.

There will be no revolution--especially if Hillary wins. We have a long way to go before we see that.  We'll need to get more like Venezuela and have that for several years before people wake up and realize they don't have freedom and the gov't has no more money to give free things to people to vote for them.  Until that happens we are stuck in a death spiral.

[sneakypete]

There will be no revolution--especially if Hillary wins. We have a long way to go before we see that.  We'll need to get more like Venezuela and have that for several years before people wake up and realize they don't have freedom and the gov't has no more money to give free things to people to vote for them.  Until that happens we are stuck in a death spiral.

Don't worry. Unless we break the stranglehold the globalist DNC and RNC have on our nation,we will be like Venezuela within 10 years. Maybe sooner because both keep importing more 3rd worlders in and giving them "Free stuff" for coming.

[wolfcreek]

Don't worry. Unless we break the stranglehold the globalist DNC and RNC have on our nation,we will be like Venezuela within 10 years. Maybe sooner because both keep importing more 3rd worlders in and giving them "Free stuff" for coming.

And terrorists...or is that the same thing? 

[For-Q-Clinton]

Don't worry. Unless we break the stranglehold the globalist DNC and RNC have on our nation,we will be like Venezuela within 10 years. Maybe sooner because both keep importing more 3rd worlders in and giving them "Free stuff" for coming.

No they get free stuff for voting.

[sneakypete]

And terrorists...or is that the same thing? 

No,but some of the 3rd worlders we are letting in are terrorists. Most are just parasites here for the "free stuff",though.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Tell me you weren't a Jeb voter.

BTW: I need to see some sources before I comment on your accusations against Trump.

Yes, I was a Jeb voter.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced taxes by $19 billion.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced the size of government by more than 10% via privatization of government jobs.

Because as Governor of my State he defeated the teacher's unions and made Florida the first State to offer parents school choice.

Because as Governor of my State he brought the State's unemployment down to below 4%.

Because as Governor of my State our economy grew by 7.2 percent, on average, while the U.S. grew by 5 percent during the same period.

Because as Governor of my State the state went from having $1.3 billion to $9.8 billion in cash reserves.

Because as Governor of my State Florida became the first state to have "choose life" license plates during Bush's tenure, and the fees helped pregnant women.

Because as Governor of my State he ended the practice of Affirmative Action for State workers, State contractors and college admissions.

Because as Governor of my State he received an A+ rating from the NRA.

Maybe to you, there's only one issue that matters, but's makes you myopic, not right.

[RetBobbyMI]

Yes, I was a Jeb voter.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced taxes by $19 billion.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced the size of government by more than 10% via privatization of government jobs.

Because as Governor of my State he defeated the teacher's unions and made Florida the first State to offer parents school choice.

Because as Governor of my State he brought the State's unemployment down to below 4%.

Because as Governor of my State our economy grew by 7.2 percent, on average, while the U.S. grew by 5 percent during the same period.

Because as Governor of my State the state went from having $1.3 billion to $9.8 billion in cash reserves.

Because as Governor of my State Florida became the first state to have "choose life" license plates during Bush's tenure, and the fees helped pregnant women.

Because as Governor of my State he ended the practice of Affirmative Action for State workers, State contractors and college admissions.

Because as Governor of my State he received an A+ rating from the NRA.

Maybe to you, there's only one issue that matters, but's makes you myopic, not right.

All well and good, but what did he do to stop the migration of liberal democrats from the northeast? They are now swelling in strength to dilute the conservative population and turn Florida into another Colorado of the east.

[Luis Gonzalez]

All well and good, but what did he do to stop the migration of liberal democrats from the northeast? They are now swelling in strength to dilute the conservative population and turn Florida into another Colorado of the east.

That's a joke, right?

[RetBobbyMI]

That's a joke, right?

Well, sorta. Florida is becoming the liberal bastion of the southeast with all of the New Englanders moving there. Just like Californians migrating to Colorado, New Yorkers (like Trump) are escaping the high taxes and bringing their NY values with them. Now, once strong GOP areas, are heavily liberal democrat areas.

[MACVSOG68]

Well, sorta. Florida is becoming the liberal bastion of the southeast with all of the New Englanders moving there. Just like Californians migrating to Colorado, New Yorkers (like Trump) are escaping the high taxes and bringing their NY values with them. Now, once strong GOP areas, are heavily liberal democrat areas.

I think Luis' comment related to your concern about what Governor Bush did to stop the liberal migration.  How does a governor do that? 

[wolfcreek]

Yes, I was a Jeb voter.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced taxes by $19 billion.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced the size of government by more than 10% via privatization of government jobs.

Because as Governor of my State he defeated the teacher's unions and made Florida the first State to offer parents school choice.

Because as Governor of my State he brought the State's unemployment down to below 4%.

Because as Governor of my State our economy grew by 7.2 percent, on average, while the U.S. grew by 5 percent during the same period.

Because as Governor of my State the state went from having $1.3 billion to $9.8 billion in cash reserves.

Because as Governor of my State Florida became the first state to have "choose life" license plates during Bush's tenure, and the fees helped pregnant women.

Because as Governor of my State he ended the practice of Affirmative Action for State workers, State contractors and college admissions.

Because as Governor of my State he received an A+ rating from the NRA.

Maybe to you, there's only one issue that matters, but's makes you myopic, not right.

He comes from a family of globalist, NWO types who are , IMO, traitors to this country.

Jeb in fact, is no different from Hillary in that regard.

You can now admit that I picked you off.

[wolfcreek]

Well, sorta. Florida is becoming the liberal bastion of the southeast with all of the New Englanders moving there. Just like Californians migrating to Colorado, New Yorkers (like Trump) are escaping the high taxes and bringing their NY values with them. Now, once strong GOP areas, are heavily liberal democrat areas.

Same thing happening in Texas for years.

[Luis Gonzalez]

He comes from a family of globalist, NWO types who are , IMO, traitors to this country.

Jeb in fact, is no different from Hillary in that regard.

You can now admit that I picked you off.

Again, no response to the substance of the post.

I voted for Jeb for Governor (he was out of the primary race before the Florida primary) because the other guy running for the office was a Democrat.

I guess in that case you would have voted for the Democrat.

[Jazzhead]

Yes, I was a Jeb voter.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced taxes by $19 billion.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced the size of government by more than 10% via privatization of government jobs.

Because as Governor of my State he defeated the teacher's unions and made Florida the first State to offer parents school choice.

Because as Governor of my State he brought the State's unemployment down to below 4%.

Because as Governor of my State our economy grew by 7.2 percent, on average, while the U.S. grew by 5 percent during the same period.

Because as Governor of my State the state went from having $1.3 billion to $9.8 billion in cash reserves.

Because as Governor of my State Florida became the first state to have "choose life" license plates during Bush's tenure, and the fees helped pregnant women.

Because as Governor of my State he ended the practice of Affirmative Action for State workers, State contractors and college admissions.

Because as Governor of my State he received an A+ rating from the NRA.

Maybe to you, there's only one issue that matters, but's makes you myopic, not right.

Jeb had as good a conservative track record as governor as anyone.  Too bad resumes counted for next to nothing this past year.   It was all about scratching itches 'til they bled.   

[skeeter]

Jeb had as good a conservative track record as governor as anyone.  Too bad resumes counted for next to nothing this past year.   It was all about scratching itches 'til they bled.

Jeb did himself no good by claiming republicans could win the white house without conservatives. Obviously, thats not the message primary voters wanted.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Yes, I was a Jeb voter.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced taxes by $19 billion.

Because as Governor of my State he reduced the size of government by more than 10% via privatization of government jobs.

Because as Governor of my State he defeated the teacher's unions and made Florida the first State to offer parents school choice.

Because as Governor of my State he brought the State's unemployment down to below 4%.

Because as Governor of my State our economy grew by 7.2 percent, on average, while the U.S. grew by 5 percent during the same period.

Because as Governor of my State the state went from having $1.3 billion to $9.8 billion in cash reserves.

Because as Governor of my State Florida became the first state to have "choose life" license plates during Bush's tenure, and the fees helped pregnant women.

Because as Governor of my State he ended the practice of Affirmative Action for State workers, State contractors and college admissions.

Because as Governor of my State he received an A+ rating from the NRA.

Maybe to you, there's only one issue that matters, but's makes you myopic, not right.

I liked Jeb. There were a few things I didn't like about him. Think he had some bad answers on immigration. Border security is a big issue for me.

I wasn't a W fan, decent man, horrible leader.

During the debates Trump really looked like he was bullying Jeb, made me feel sorry for him. I'll never understand why GOP primary voters responded to bullying so positively. So disappointing. The entire ordeal sucked.

But if Jeb allowed himself to be bullied, maybe he wasn't the right man for the job, on the other hand.

[wolfcreek]

I liked Jeb. There were a few things I didn't like about him. Think he had some bad answers on immigration. Border security is a big issue for me.

I wasn't a W fan, decent man, horrible leader.

During the debates Trump really looked like he was bullying Jeb, made me feel sorry for him. I'll never understand why GOP primary voters responded to bullying so positively. So disappointing. The entire ordeal sucked.

But if Jeb allowed himself to be bullied, maybe he wasn't the right man for the job, on the other hand.

The entire GOPe allowed themselves to be bullied for the better part of 8 years.Jeb and the rest are grown men  who could take up for themselves. Imagine what Hillary would do to their weaknesses.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The entire GOPe allowed themselves to be bullied for the better part of 8 years.Jeb and the rest are grown men  who could take up for themselves. Imagine what Hillary would do to their weaknesses.

Again, avoiding the substance, avoiding my question and responding with a meme.

Given the choice in your State's race for governonr between a Democrat and a Republican, when that Republican was Jeb Bush, who would you vote for?

[Luis Gonzalez]

Jeb did himself no good by claiming republicans could win the white house without conservatives. Obviously, thats not the message primary voters wanted.

"I’m a conservative, but don’t forget, this is called the ‘Republican Party,’ not the ‘conservative party.'" - Donald Trump

[catfish1957]

"I’m a conservative, but don’t forget, this is called the ‘Republican Party,’ not the ‘conservative party.'" - Donald Trump

From the guy who says conservatism means conserve.   LMAO......

[wolfcreek]

Again, avoiding the substance, avoiding my question and responding with a meme.

Given the choice in your State's race for governonr between a Democrat and a Republican, when that Republican was Jeb Bush, who would you vote for?

Was I talking to you, Luis?

You forget his brother was the Governor of Texas. If I knew what I know now about that family, no, I wouldn't have voted for him.

 I suspect Jeb is kowtowed into the amnesty by that little Mexican woman he married.

[WAC]

Well you can count me voting for Trump now.....it's the card we have to play.....and his speech today was dead on! 

I have given this some serious thought and lots of struggle.....so I will be voting for Trump as a Citizen of this fine country! It's the only one I have...and I will not let Hillary take it owver and destory it the rest of the way from what Obama has.....not going to happen!

[wolfcreek]

Well you can count me voting for Trump now.....it's the card we have to play.....and his speech today was dead on! 

I have given this some serious thought and lots of struggle.....so I will be voting for Trump as a Citizen of this fine country! It's the only one I have...and I will not let Hillary take it owver and destory it the rest of the way from what Obama has.....not going to happen!

I hope more GOP voters come to that conclusion before the election.

Hillary would be the worst case scenario.

[WAC]

I hope more GOP voters come to that conclusion before the election..Hillary would be the worst case scenario.

Oh I think they will too....I've had many discussions with wise men and woman whose opinions I value.....both opposing and for Trump.  But it has taken some time for me to see that even though I certainly don't like the man....I do think he has the "picture" of strength this country needs even if his mouth gets in the way...and it's been a long time since we've had such. It's important now with the way the World Stage is shaping up.....

I also chuckle sort of....if Trump could get me wondering from one minute to the next what he's going to do....it's a good indication he will do likewise with our enemies, and that's a good thing...he will surely keep them on their toes and it will not be business as usual by any means.

How that plays out for this nation remains to be seen...but I do think he's for this country....and Hillary is completely opposed.

[wolfcreek]

Oh I think they will too....I've had many discussions with wise men and woman whose opinions I value.....both opposing and for Trump.  But it has taken some time for me to see that even though I certainly don't like the man....I do think he has the "picture" of strength this country needs even if his mouth gets in the way...and it's been a long time since we've had such. It's important now with the way the World Stage is shaping up.....

I also chuckle sort of....if Trump could get me wondering from one minute to the next what he's going to do....it's a good indication he will do likewise with our enemies, and that's a good thing...he will surely keep them on their toes and it will not be business as usual by any means.

How that plays out for this nation remains to be seen...but I do think he's for this country....and Hillary is completely opposed.

Indeed

[musiclady]

Oh I think they will too....I've had many discussions with wise men and woman whose opinions I value.....both opposing and for Trump.  But it has taken some time for me to see that even though I certainly don't like the man....I do think he has the "picture" of strength this country needs even if his mouth gets in the way...and it's been a long time since we've had such. It's important now with the way the World Stage is shaping up.....

I also chuckle sort of....if Trump could get me wondering from one minute to the next what he's going to do....it's a good indication he will do likewise with our enemies, and that's a good thing...he will surely keep them on their toes and it will not be business as usual by any means.

How that plays out for this nation remains to be seen...but I do think he's for this country....and Hillary is completely opposed.

For some of us it's far more important than "not liking this man."  We cannot vote for someone who opposes every principle we have.  Obviously, Hillary opposes everything we stand for too, and every #NeverTrump person I know hates Hillary.  We know how bad she is.

That should be an indicator of how horrific a candidate Donald Trump is.

I used to be in the "lesser of two evils' camp, and opposed people who wouldn't vote for the Republican candidate.  But this election is so very different.  We truly do have a choice between two EQUAL evils, and nothing in my conscience, or in the values I have had my entire life will allow me to mark the ballot for Donald Trump.

I believe there are many other conservatives who feel as strongly as I do.  We cannot be pushed or bullied into voting for someone who is so despicable.......and who is most certainly not for the country.  It's all about him.  It's always been all about him and all the hoping in the world won't make that change. 

[skeeter]

"I’m a conservative, but don’t forget, this is called the ‘Republican Party,’ not the ‘conservative party.'" - Donald Trump

Didn't he say that after he virtually locked up the nomination?

Even when he was still referring to himself as a conservative it was clear by the way he'd spit the term out that he is as contemptuous of conservatives as the Bush family.

[oldmomster]

Didn't he say that after he virtually locked up the nomination?

Well, we havent had the convention yet, and repubs are making headlines still talking about changing the rules on him. 

[musiclady]

Well, we havent had the convention yet, and repubs are making headlines still talking about changing the rules on him.

The rules of the convention have always been flexible.  There's nothing "unfair" about what's going on, all the whining notwithstanding.

[WAC]

For some of us it's far more important than "not liking this man."  We cannot vote for someone who opposes every principle we have.  Obviously, Hillary opposes everything we stand for too, and every #NeverTrump person I know hates Hillary.  We know how bad she is. .......................That should be an indicator of how horrific a candidate Donald Trump is.

I used to be in the "lesser of two evils' camp, and opposed people who wouldn't vote for the Republican candidate.  But this election is so very different.  We truly do have a choice between two EQUAL evils, and nothing in my conscience, or in the values I have had my entire life will allow me to mark the ballot for Donald Trump.

I believe there are many other conservatives who feel as strongly as I do.  We cannot be pushed or bullied into voting for someone who is so despicable.......and who is most certainly not for the country.  It's all about him.  It's always been all about him and all the hoping in the world won't make that change.

Well I understand your position... As a Christian myself I use to be there and very strong about it......But I'm NOT basing my support for Trump based on opposing Hillary alone, that's simply the icing on the cake. I'm voting because I took a good long look at why we vote,  first and foremost it's because we are CITIZENS of this country 'while we are here'.

So with that in mind it's because I'm a Citizen I'm automatically free to vote, and that freedom came from men and woman 'dying' so that I could do so. How then can I not vote when it's within the power God gave me to do just that?????

It's not about who or not is the worst evildoer of the two.........they are simply reflective of the state of corruption in this country...and we have them now because of that same corruption in the media and those who have the power to move elections. A power that THEY are responsible to God for. 

We fought the good fight to get the right man in IMO. He lost. Trump won. Of course it wasn't fair and square, but it was our media involved news sources that frame the election and we know how that went. Even so here we are with these two to choose from.

I'm not voting because I'm a Christian...I'm voting because I"m a Citizen....

And this regardless if I like the choice or not. ...and I will let God deal with Trump...because my principles are not based on a Presidential Election...they're based 'IN' the King of Kings of Lords of Lords......he can work this election to whatever purposes he has in mind regarding Trump....he did it with others like Trump throughout the Bible......thinking of Saul turned Paul.

[oldmomster]

I'm not voting because I'm a Christian...I'm voting because I"m a Citizen....

And this regardless if I like the choice or not. ...and I will let God deal with Trump...because my principles are not based on a Presidential Election...they're based 'IN' the King of Kings of Lords of Lords......he can work this election to whatever purposes he has in mind regarding Trump....he did it with others like Trump throughout the Bible......thinking of Saul turned Paul.

So eloquent.  Clearly you've prayed about this.  Thank you for sharing.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Was I talking to you, Luis?

You forget his brother was the Governor of Texas. If I knew what I know now about that family, no, I wouldn't have voted for him.

 I suspect Jeb is kowtowed into the amnesty by that little Mexican woman he married.

So you would have voted for the Democrat.

Thanks, your post has told me everything that I wanted to know.

[WAC]

The rules of the convention have always been flexible.  There's nothing "unfair" about what's going on, all the whining notwithstanding.

You have to admit though, it's interesting that they did a similar thing with Ron Paul  when he went for the delegate count and they screamed to high heavens when he did that.... and changed the rules to make sure he didn't win.

They've had to have found some way to jiggle the rules enough to stay within the parameters they are required to.  It's going to be interesting, but everything is so disconnected at this point.

[musiclady]

Well I understand your position... As a Christian myself I use to be there and very strong about it......But I'm NOT basing my support for Trump based on opposing Hillary alone, that's simply the icing on the cake. I'm voting because I took a good long look at why we vote,  first and foremost it's because we are CITIZENS of this country 'while we are here'.

So with that in mind it's because I'm a Citizen I'm automatically free to vote, and that freedom came from men and woman 'dying' so that I could do so. How then can I not vote when it's within the power God gave me to do just that?????

It's not about who or not is the worst evildoer of the two.........they are simply reflective of the state of corruption in this country...and we have them now because of that same corruption in the media and those who have the power to move elections. A power that THEY are responsible to God for. 

We fought the good fight to get the right man in IMO. He lost. Trump won. Of course it wasn't fair and square, but it was our media involved news sources that frame the election and we know how that went. Even so here we are with these two to choose from.

I'm not voting because I'm a Christian...I'm voting because I"m a Citizen....

And this regardless if I like the choice or not. ...and I will let God deal with Trump...because my principles are not based on a Presidential Election...they're based 'IN' the King of Kings of Lords of Lords......he can work this election to whatever purposes he has in mind regarding Trump....he did it with others like Trump throughout the Bible......thinking of Saul turned Paul.

I said nothing about not voting.  I am going to vote, and agree with your reasons for voting.

I am just not voting for either corrupt, unChristian candidate that the two major parties have put up.

I've heard the "King David" /"Saul" arguments for Trump, but the basic ingredient missing is that both men were repentant, and Donald Trump is proud of his sinfulness.

As a Christian, I will vote, but my conscience will not allow me to vote for evil.

God's will WILL be done, as it always is, and I have to stand before HIM with every decision I have made in this life.  The one thing I will not do is vote for a man who supports the murderous organization Planned Parenthood, and has claimed he is "completely pro choice."

You cannot bully OR guilt me into doing what my Christian principles will not allow me to do.

You can keep trying, but it won't work.

[Sanguine]

Well, we havent had the convention yet, and repubs are making headlines still talking about changing the rules on him.

No, they're talking about working within the rules and not voting for DT.