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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #200 on: June 08, 2023, 05:02:11 pm »
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BTW,this is a free country,so if sharing the same state with Trump bothers you,you can always move to California,where you  will be surrounded by "like minds".

Like minds?  Let me remind you that El Tumpo is the one proposing $15 Trillion dollar Freedom cities and bonuses for babies.....

Do us all a  favor and go out to CA with Trump and the rest of the socialist.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #201 on: June 08, 2023, 05:02:28 pm »
@sneakypete
 
Tumpy gave him nothing. And there is his school records, his military records, his Congressional record, and two terms as governor. How much record do you want?

And that record is decidedly Conservative, all the way along.

@roamer_1

WOW! "Conservative school records,and conservative Military Lawyer records"!

Desperation is NEVER pretty,and you  have to be pretty freaking desperate to cite his school records and him being a military lawyer as positives.

I WILL grant you that his record as the Governor of Fla has been pretty impressive,but in MY mind he HAD to do all that to set the stage for a WH run.

He MIGHT be as conservative IF elected to the WH,and  might NOT be conservative at all,and instead use all his time selling political favors and backstabbing  the people  who supported him.

Not that any of this really matters because my  GUESS is that the DNC already has the votes counted. If Jesus were to come back to life and run for the office of the President of the US as a Repubican,he would lose,even though  he seems to have been the "original communist".

Communism  has now  morphed into Globalism,and it sure seems like the Globalists,who are nothing more or less than than the "Nazi Fascists of WW-2 with a kinder face and better PR", have  taken over control of the west.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #202 on: June 08, 2023, 05:05:06 pm »
@roamer_1

WOW! "Conservative school records,and conservative Military Lawyer records"!

Desperation is NEVER pretty,and you  have to be pretty freaking desperate to cite his school records and him being a military lawyer as positives.

I WILL grant you that his record as the Governor of Fla has been pretty impressive,but in MY mind he HAD to do all that to set the stage for a WH run.

He MIGHT be as conservative IF elected to the WH,and  might NOT be conservative at all,and instead use all his time selling political favors and backstabbing  the people  who supported him.

Not that any of this really matters because my  GUESS is that the DNC already has the votes counted. If Jesus were to come back to life and run for the office of the President of the US as a Repubican,he would lose,even though  he seems to have been the "original communist".

Communism  has now  morphed into Globalism,and it sure seems like the Globalists,who are nothing more or less than than the "Nazi Fascists of WW-2 with a kinder face and better PR", have  taken over control of the west.

Your continous idiotic contention of RDS backstabbing is pretty rich considering tumpy has made a career out of it for those who didn't kiss his ass. Kaleigh Mc is just one recent example
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #203 on: June 08, 2023, 05:06:31 pm »
@roamer_1

WOW! "Conservative school records,and conservative Military Lawyer records"!

Desperation is NEVER pretty,and you  have to be pretty freaking desperate to cite his school records and him being a military lawyer as positives.

I WILL grant you that his record as the Governor of Fla has been pretty impressive,but in MY mind he HAD to do all that to set the stage for a WH run.

He MIGHT be as conservative IF elected to the WH,and  might NOT be conservative at all,and instead use all his time selling political favors and backstabbing  the people  who supported him.

Not that any of this really matters because my  GUESS is that the DNC already has the votes counted. If Jesus were to come back to life and run for the office of the President of the US as a Repubican,he would lose,even though  he seems to have been the "original communist".

Communism  has now  morphed into Globalism,and it sure seems like the Globalists,who are nothing more or less than than the "Nazi Fascists of WW-2 with a kinder face and better PR", have  taken over control of the west.

Look up the first rule of holes.

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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #204 on: June 08, 2023, 05:10:20 pm »
Nope.  One cannot be successful in the global business world if this is true. 

The truth is Trump was given absolutely terrible people to choose from ---- especially for positions requiring Senate confirmation and receiving Congressional recommendations. But, now he knows them all ---- from bowel habits to every back room alliance.  Round two will be shock and awe.  Take it to the bank.


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I am not sure that at this time in point that anyone can do any better because the way the system is set up,a President MUST pick people that have the approval of the career criminals in Congress or the US Senate to get one of his nominees hired.

Do ANY  of you  REALLY think the majority of the career pols in DC are going to vote to have someone hired that hasn't proven to be reliable from THEIR POV?

And the reality of it is that the FACT that we DO have a few actual conservative Congresscritters and US Senators,they  are far outnumbered by the "Global Borg".

Can ANY  of you think of any OTHER explanation why Slow Joe wasn't removed from office  within a year  of taking it?
The man was senile on the day he was sworn in,and has  only  gotten worse since,yet he is still in office and the DNC are supporting his re-election.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #205 on: June 08, 2023, 05:20:35 pm »
Harry Truman
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
Lyndon Johnson
Ronald Reagan
George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush

@Hoodat

That is 10 Presidents out of 46.

On top of that,the first few Presidents were elected because they were proven Patriots that wanted to preserve America.

Then there is the group starting with Truman and ending with Eisenhower that were PROBABLY honest men who wanted to make America a better and safer place for us all to live and enjoy our freedoms. Yes,this list IS debatable.

The rest,with the OBVIOUS EXCEPTION of Reagan  have been  self-serving  scum,with the POSSIBLE exception of  JFK,who truth to be told,wasn't the shiniest penny in the collection plate,and had handlers to tell him what to do.

To be fair to those scum,they would have never been able to achieve world-class scum status if it weren't for the dumbass voters that voted for them because they honestly  thought they were getting something for nothing because they were too freaking stupid to realize the only thing you get for free in life is grief. You have to work for the good stuff.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #206 on: June 08, 2023, 05:22:13 pm »
@LMAO

Because I am NOT voting for him OR ANY OTHER OF THE CAREER CRIMINALS THAT ARE RUNNING.

If that isn't basic and obvious enough for you, find a child to explain it to you.

And again he avoids the question for probably the fifth time. You keep telling me why you’re not voting for anybody but Trump. That’s not the question.

So, using your reasoning, if Ron DeSantis gets the nomination and you don’t vote for him for president, then you’re just helping Joe Biden or whatever democrat runs in his place. That’s your stated standard, not  mine.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #207 on: June 08, 2023, 05:24:29 pm »
@sneakypete  Trump is facing criminal charges including a felony.  I think it would be wise of MAGA started to realize that even though those charges may be bogus they are serious and the are seriously trying to put him behind bars.

That is reality. 
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #208 on: June 08, 2023, 05:28:51 pm »
Except that your opinion is fact free @sneakypete .
What you suggest has never happened before... And I don't mean just here. In all of history, I am unaware of ANY one man that overturned the system in a beneficial way. 'Bomb-thrower' or not.

Well, one... Only One... And you don't believe He existed, so...

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Names like George Washington,Thomas Jefferson,and Ben Franklin just seemed to pop into my head.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #209 on: June 08, 2023, 05:30:37 pm »
Your continous idiotic contention of RDS backstabbing is pretty rich considering tumpy has made a career out of it for those who didn't kiss his ass. Kaleigh Mc is just one recent example

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Get someone to explain the definition of the word "hypocrisy" to you.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #210 on: June 08, 2023, 05:32:20 pm »
Look up the first rule of holes.

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Look in the mirror as  you  say that.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #211 on: June 08, 2023, 05:33:55 pm »
@catfish1957

Get someone to explain the definition of the word "hypocrisy" to you.

I’ll be more than happy to explain the definition of the word hypocrisy

Here  is the official definition

the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

It’s when you do one thing, but you preach to others to do the opposite. For example, a holy roller politician that preaches against homosexuality, but then is later found in bed with a teenage boy.

Another is telling people that if they don’t vote for a certain politician, then they’re helping the opposition, but they don’t apply that same standard to themselves and their voting choice wink777
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« Reply #212 on: June 08, 2023, 05:48:53 pm »
@Hoodat

The only reason DeSantis even HAD a military career,assuming you are uninformed  enough to  accept being a military lawyer as being in the military....

As far as I can tell, your logic here would apply to anyone who didn't serve in the combat arms.  So supply people, mechanics, drivers, many comm people, etc. etc. etc. really didn't serve at all, and shouldn't even be considered veterans.  Are you sure you want to make that argument?

And just to clarify what DeSantis did overseas, he was the senior legal advisor attached to the Commander, Special  Operations Forces - West, who was SEAL Team 3 Commander, Navy Capt. Dane Thorleifson.   They were based in Fallujah, so its not like he was riding a desk from the safety of the Pentagon.  Here's what his CO had to say about him:

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During his active duty in the U.S. Navy, DeSantis was deployed to Iraq in 2007 after President George W. Bush announced a surge of about 30,000 additional troops to the country.

“He was my main guy and I trusted him,” said retired Navy Capt. Dane Thorleifson, DeSantis’ commanding SEAL officer.  DeSantis served as a legal adviser to Thorleifson in support of counterinsurgency operations in Iraq.

“There were some operations were we killed some guys and we had to make sure we were all good, that everything was legal and done right. He kept us clean,” Thorleifson said.

https://www.news-press.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/30/ron-desantis-bets-conservative-appeal-florida-governor-bid/1820152002/

Being in Fallujah in 2007 meant that even if he wasn't a trigger-puller, he likely at least heard bullets/mortars frequently, and of course there was always the risk of IED's for everyone deployed in country.

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Military lawyers exist to convict actual soldiers of crimes so they can have them put into a military prison,or be kicked out of the millitary. They do NOT fight any  actual battles. They  are clerks with  law degrees.

If there assigned as prosecutors, then yes.  Although I think we could agree that there are plenty of ordinary crimes committed in the military where the guys deserve to be punished.  But DeSantis was never a prosecutor, though he did do some defense for accused sailors.

Other than being in Iraq, his other main military duty as a lawyer was in Gitmo, where the left accused him of covering up abuse committed by American troops against the terrorist prisoners.  They hate him for serving in Gitmo:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/28/ron-desantis-guantanamo-bay-allegations

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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #213 on: June 08, 2023, 06:04:44 pm »

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I am not sure that at this time in point that anyone can do any better because the way the system is set up,a President MUST pick people that have the approval of the career criminals in Congress or the US Senate to get one of his nominees hired.
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Trump can string together interim appointments until he gets the Senate he needs in the 2026 midterms, if he has to. 

I am so looking forward to Trump unleashed!

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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #214 on: June 08, 2023, 06:10:34 pm »
   That insinuates that Trump was LEASHED at one time and I find that hard to believe.
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« Reply #215 on: June 08, 2023, 06:18:48 pm »
WOW! "Conservative school records,and conservative Military Lawyer records"!

@sneakypete
LOL! I said his record (not his records) was Conservative, all the way along.

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Desperation is NEVER pretty,and you  have to be pretty freaking desperate to cite his school records and him being a military lawyer as positives.


Moving the goalpost. Your original claim was that there was no record of accomplishment prior to DeSantis' role as governor. I was just asserting that there is plenty of record before that time, and that record is Conservative... He didn't, at any given time, decide to become a Republican, and Don Republican plumage, suddenly hawking sweet nothings to the Republican rank and file, opposite of what he was before... Changing his spots, as it were, as some may have done.  :whistle:

He's been what he is, all the way along - And his actions today are predictable because of it... Which is why the record is important.

And there is not a hint of desperation in that. In fact, it may as well be my only determining tool of decision. I will push the pot on who and what he is, because his record plainly declares it.

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I WILL grant you that his record as the Governor of Fla has been pretty impressive,but in MY mind he HAD to do all that to set the stage for a WH run.


So is his record as a Congressman and founding member of the Freedom Caucus. On the surface at least, his record is exemplary. He is a man of honor, of good character, accomplished and unafraid. He's a team builder, well organized, with proven leadership skills... And he is well backed, not only with money, but with an organization that has already proven effective - The TEA Party.

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He MIGHT be as conservative IF elected to the WH,and  might NOT be conservative at all,and instead use all his time selling political favors and backstabbing  the people  who supported him.

Bullcrap. There is nothing more predictable than the record, and the record shows him to be exceptional, despite your nonsensical charge of backstabbing. He will not change from what he is. And his record is what hedges that bet.

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Not that any of this really matters because my  GUESS is that the DNC already has the votes counted. If Jesus were to come back to life and run for the office of the President of the US as a Repubican,he would lose,even though  he seems to have been the "original communist".

Your ignorance of the Christian religion, and of Yeshua is profound and ongoing. In fact, the establishment of this Republic owes much of its existence to the precepts found in the Bible.

And what happens to your GUESS when a Republican is indeed elected?

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Communism  has now  morphed into Globalism,and it sure seems like the Globalists,who are nothing more or less than than the "Nazi Fascists of WW-2 with a kinder face and better PR", have  taken over control of the west.

Communism has always been globalist... Is nearly always fascist... Though its control in the west is tenuous at best and losing ground because of people like DeSantis and the Freedom Caucus. Real and lasting change by way of real law.


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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #216 on: June 08, 2023, 06:25:08 pm »
   That insinuates that Trump was LEASHED at one time and I find that hard to believe.

He showed some restraint while he was President but he is unleashed now and with his NY values, and his past failures, I don't trust him.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #217 on: June 08, 2023, 06:25:47 pm »
Do ANY  of you  REALLY think the majority of the career pols in DC are going to vote to have someone hired that hasn't proven to be reliable from THEIR POV?


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SURE. But it takes an organization, not a man. It takes people already in place that can back the play and turn the tables.

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And the reality of it is that the FACT that we DO have a few actual conservative Congresscritters and US Senators,they  are far outnumbered by the "Global Borg".


Which is why your single superman theory cannot work and is sure to be flash-in-the-pan. The obvious answer is not in superheroes. The obvious answer is to put more Conservatives in there, performing blocking actions until they have enough power in numbers to effect change.

That takes an unswerving attention to a principled stand across multiple election cycles... NOT a populist pop-fart.

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« Reply #218 on: June 08, 2023, 06:27:29 pm »
@roamer_1

Names like George Washington,Thomas Jefferson,and Ben Franklin just seemed to pop into my head.

@sneakypete
No wonder. They were together an organization, not single men. And they did not overturn the system, they separated from it.

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« Reply #219 on: June 08, 2023, 06:38:15 pm »
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SURE. But it takes an organization, not a man. It takes people already in place that can back the play and turn the tables.

Oh, they ARE organized to the inth degree @roamer_1 fully organized to make sure NO ONE messes with their scam and piggybanks
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« Reply #220 on: June 08, 2023, 06:39:40 pm »
@sneakypete

SURE. But it takes an organization, not a man. It takes people already in place that can back the play and turn the tables.

Which is why your single superman theory cannot work and is sure to be flash-in-the-pan. The obvious answer is not in superheroes. The obvious answer is to put more Conservatives in there, performing blocking actions until they have enough power in numbers to effect change.

That takes an unswerving attention to a principled stand across multiple election cycles... NOT a populist pop-fart.



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« Reply #221 on: June 08, 2023, 06:40:20 pm »
   I admire your tenacity @roamer_1 in continuing to spell out the facts to @sneakypete
   I found this old video of him on the Trump Train.

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« Reply #222 on: June 08, 2023, 06:44:13 pm »
After all the things Trump has said and done the Magadonians are outraged over this DeSantis ad....amazing.
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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #223 on: June 08, 2023, 06:44:31 pm »
Oh, they ARE organized @roamer_1 fully organized to make sure NO ONE messes with their scam and piggybanks


So are the few that stand in their way, @Bigun . It is not monolithic. You have to remember that the lion's share of em are wishy-washy with a finger in the air at all times. That means they can be lead by the nose. All it takes is for a rebellion to rise (which it has in the Freedom Caucus and a handful of senators) and with key people in place, the herd can be moved in the direction desired...

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Re: BRUTAL DeSantis campaign ad rips Trump for not firing Fauci
« Reply #224 on: June 08, 2023, 07:06:07 pm »
   I admire your tenacity @roamer_1 in continuing to spell out the facts to @sneakypete
   I found this old video of him on the Trump Train.

Jethro Tull ~ Locomotive Breath { Music Video}


I'm just not all that good with hopping on trains, @corbe


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