Federal government under Biden runs $928,000,000,000 deficit in just 7 months

[roamer_1]

PRESIDENTS don't create or vote for national spending budgets. CONGRESS  does this,and since Congress is controlled by Dims,they approve any budget the DNC presents  them with.

That's not exactly true. The White House (and Senate) participates in budget making at the committee level, where red flags are pounded out all the way around - That ain't the president, but it is his people - so that by the time the bill hits the floor it has a good chance of passage and signing. It's called fast-tracking.

Now, it's nothing on paper. It's all on word. All back door... But that's how the sausage is made. He knew what he was signing, because he (the White House) participated in its development.

And he signed it all. That is his agreement and approval.

[corbe]

   Maybe a guy who makes 'The Best Deals' is not right for this Country, anymore.

[roamer_1]

So NOW you are claiming that Trump is to blame for the illegal alien  invasion??????

@sneakypete
She said no such thing. She has defended Tumpy on immigration all the way along.

I am seriously considering dumping TBR over this nonsense. MOST of you people KNOW you are talking crap,and just don't care because it is all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!" to most of you,and to hell  with America and  everyone in it.

Baloney! I mean every_single_word of it. And I am thoroughly and completely right on the matter.

You CANNOT spend more than we make and think that is OK.  The two things are logically incompatible. It quite literally cannot be sustained. It is the greatest threat we face.

Stopping spending removes federal power. Simple as that. with fiscal sanity comes small government, and every other problem is solved by that.

The self-centered BS I see here on a daily basis is going to guarantee the Dims another victory  come election day.

The self-centered BS is the BS that thinks big-government Republicans are any different at all than big government Democrats.

I will stand UTTERLY AGAINST big government from the right. It will NEVER get my endorsement because the right is supposed to defend small government. And if they won't no one will. If they won't, it is our absolute doom, right now. Supporting big government from the right is not victory - It is complete failure. It is the acceptance of socialism by the right, and I will NOT help you do that.

[LMAO]

So in summary, this is SP's position

Biden and the DNC should be held accountable for the 928B deficit rang under his watch but Trump is exempt from any accountability for the deficits under his watch because the "RINO's and Dims" worked against him plus those were all spending deals that were made by the previous administration before Trump but that standard doesn't apply to Biden because he has a Democrat Congress and presidents have nothing to do with spending bills sent to their desk  but Trump couldn't VETO any spending bills that he supposedly has nothing to do with because he didn't want to fight the "RINOs and DIMS"

And if you disagree with the above, you hate America

Dizzying logic, isn't it?

 

[corbe]

   We know there are Briefers that are so deep in Trumps azz they know what he had for Breakfast 4 hours before we do. 
   I get that. 

  @sneakypete use to disklike Trump, never a hater, like some of you SOB's, BUT tolerable. 
  Something changed, he blames it on his Cancer Treatment, I blame it on the Trump Trolls here. 

[Kamaji]

@libertybele

So NOW you are claiming that Trump is to blame for the illegal alien  invasion??????

I am seriously considering dumping TBR over this nonsense. MOST of you people KNOW you are talking crap,and just don't care because it is all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!" to most of you,and to hell  with America and  everyone in it.

The self-centered BS I see here on a daily basis is going to guarantee the Dims another victory  come election day.

Oy vey.  If you’re so concerned about America, then why are you so slavishly pimping for a failed president who cares only for himself?

[sneakypete]

Oy vey.  If you’re so concerned about America, then why are you so slavishly pimping for a failed president who cares only for himself?

@Kamaji

I would think you and the rest of the "MY money matters more than anything else" crew would identify with someone who cares about nothing but himself.

Not that I think your accusations are true. They are just based on jealousy because that is what YOU would do if you were Trump.

[Hoodat]

@roamer_1

Ok,asshat,how about tell us what he COULD have done,facing a Dim congress.

Do NOT say "He could have  held his breath  until his face turned blue".

It has been explained to you in detail several times already.  And for some unknown reason, you willfully choose to ignore it.

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

I will type this slowly so that even someone as slow as you MIGHT be able to understand it. If not,ask someone in Jr High  to explain it  to you.

PRESIDENTS don't create or vote for national spending budgets. CONGRESS  does this,and since Congress is controlled by Dims,they approve any budget the DNC presents  them with.

A REPUBLICAN (note  the word "Republican") president does NOT create budgets or vote for budgets. He or she can only sign-off on the budgets presented to them by the DNC

So basically, what you're saying is that whole "Art of the Deal" schtick that we were inundated with back in 2016 was complete bullshit.  Got it.  Donald Trump was simply a weak feckless wuss who lacked the ability to negotiate and was not willing to fight to get his agenda passed.  That's quite an admission there, @sneakypete

or refuse to sign them, thus shutting  the country down.

Are you REALLY so stupid that you  are pissed because Trump did NOT choose to shut the country down,and by doing so create total chaos that HE would have gotten blamed for instead of the Dims?

Trump could have reduced spending without shutting the government down which has been explained to you multiple times already.  But if he had indeed shut the government down by not signing (by your own admission) a Democrat spending bill, then my admiration for him as a leader would have increased immensely.  Much better than the feckless weakling that you defend.

Well,not only the Dims. Their RINO colleagues were as guilty as them.

It was a lose/lose situation created by the Dims because  they were in control of the  budget.

The budget with Donald J. Trump's signature at the bottom.  A budget that once passed was 100% within his discretion to spend or not spend.  Care to guess how much out of all that Democrat appropriation Trump chose not to spend in order to reduce the deficit?  (Hint:  0%)

[LMAO]

It has been explained to you in detail several times already.  And for some unknown reason, you willfully choose to ignore it.

That’s why you have to give up after a while. Everything has been explained to him very clearly  and yet he remains completely impenetrable.

It’s like he’s got his fingers in his ear going “la la la la la Trump. La la la la rude orange man.”

[Hoodat]

Not that I think your accusations are true. They are just based on jealousy because that is what YOU would do if you were Trump.

If I was Trump, I would have fired a hell of a lot of people.  And I sure a hell wouldn't have hired the leader of the GOP Swamp to be my Chief of Staff.  But that's me.  Clearly, you have no problem with Trump being in bed with the Establishment.  Because it is unrealistic to expect any real leadership from him since Democrats controlled the House two of the four years he was in office, right?

[LMAO]

The idea that if you VETO spending bills you won’t get reelected is a myth

 One time governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, was notorious for VETOing democrat spending bills  while governor of NM and he was very handily reelected

But, even if that was true, that VETOing pork spending bills could cost you reelection, that still doesn’t mean that you’re not responsible for that pork spending if you sign them

[Hoodat]

The idea that if you VETO spending bills you won’t get reelected is a myth

 One time governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, was notorious for VETOing democrat spending bills  while governor of NM and he was very handily reelected

But, even if that was true, that VETOing pork spending bills could cost you reelection, that still doesn’t mean that you’re not responsible for that pork spending

One is either in bed with the Establishment, or one is not.  Trump was.  He ceded most of his power to them.

A real leader would have fired Fauci the minute he discovered the illegal funding of the Wuhan lab.  A real leader wouldn't have given Pfizer a dime until they delivered an actual vaccine instead of that experimental RNA crap.  A real leader would have build the wall anyway regardless of what Congress said.

[roamer_1]

I would think you and the rest of the "MY money matters more than anything else" crew would identify with someone who cares about nothing but himself.

@sneakypete

LOL! MY money? I am poor as a church mouse. What little I have is buried in mason jars.

That is intentional. I checked out of the system because the system is gonna come tumbling down...
Understand that: I am SO SURE the financial system is going to fail that I got out of it as much as I can. My money goes into buying durable goods and locally networked food and textiles.

The money matters because of YOU, and all the others even less prepared than you are. The money matters because of all the humanity that will suffer greatly when this whole dang thing falls to the ground.

The money matters because if there is one chance in hell of preventing that crash, the only way forward is toward reining in this absurd government and adopting a long standing fiscal austerity.

We ain't got the money. How do I get that through your thick head?
The bill is coming due if it is not already past due.
Sure as death that bill will be paid.

Reining reign before the rain. The storm is coming.

And secondly, the money matters to liberty. The super-powerful government y'all helped to grow and expand was left to the democrats that you hate. How much less powerful would they be right now if they had a quarter less to play with? How much harder would they have to work right now if y'all weren't helping them?

Your smarmy statement is an insult to both intellect and intention. We are standing upon and defending the principles of fiscal conservatism and libertarian liberty, Fiscal sanity and small government. Both of which are absolutely and irrevocably tied to basic survival. And you are standing opposed to that.

[sneakypete]

So basically, what you're saying is that whole "Art of the Deal" schtick that we were inundated with back in 2016 was complete bullshit.  Got it.  Donald Trump was simply a weak feckless wuss who lacked the ability to negotiate and was not willing to fight to get his agenda passed.  That's quite an admission there, @sneakypete


Trump could have reduced spending without shutting the government down which has been explained to you multiple times already.  But if he had indeed shut the government down by not signing (by your own admission) a Democrat spending bill, then my admiration for him as a leader would have increased immensely.  Much better than the feckless weakling that you defend.


The budget with Donald J. Trump's signature at the bottom.  A budget that once passed was 100% within his discretion to spend or not spend.  Care to guess how much out of all that Democrat appropriation Trump chose not to spend in order to reduce the deficit?  (Hint:  0%)

You really ARE as stupid as Biden.

Or purposely blind to the truth because,like a child,you ignore truths that don't please you.

[sneakypete]

That’s why you have to give up after a while. Everything has been explained to him very clearly  and yet he remains completely impenetrable.

It’s like he’s got his fingers in his ear going “la la la la la Trump. La la la la rude orange man.”

@LMAO

That would be YOU and your running mates,Bubba. Like children,you just ignore "uncomfortable truths". ESPECIALLY truths related to "Rude Orange Rich Man".

Tells us again how opposition party Presidents create and control budgets.

[sneakypete]

If I was Trump, I would have fired a hell of a lot of people.  And I sure a hell wouldn't have hired the leader of the GOP Swamp to be my Chief of Staff.  But that's me.  Clearly, you have no problem with Trump being in bed with the Establishment.  Because it is unrealistic to expect any real leadership from him since Democrats controlled the House two of the four years he was in office, right?

@Hoodat

Blah,blah,blah. Tell us,oh wise one,WHERE would Trump have found qualified conservative replacements willing to give up their current CAREER positions in order to serve a short time under a President all the pros hated because they feared an outsider being in charge?

[sneakypete]

The idea that if you VETO spending bills you won’t get reelected is a myth

 One time governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, was notorious for VETOing democrat spending bills  while governor of NM and he was very handily reelected

But, even if that was true, that VETOing pork spending bills could cost you reelection, that still doesn’t mean that you’re not responsible for that pork spending if you sign them

@LMAO


Ahhh,"Lose/Lose"! in order to keep the government you want to replace in power! What a way to make changes! Think of that all by yourself?

[sneakypete]

One is either in bed with the Establishment, or one is not.  Trump was.  He ceded most of his power to them.

A real leader would have fired Fauci the minute he discovered the illegal funding of the Wuhan lab.  A real leader wouldn't have given Pfizer a dime until they delivered an actual vaccine instead of that experimental RNA crap.  A real leader would have build the wall anyway regardless of what Congress said.

@Hoodat

Yeah,to hell with Trump!

The candidate we need is Santa!

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

LOL! MY money? I am poor as a church mouse. What little I have is buried in mason jars.

That is intentional. I checked out of the system because the system is gonna come tumbling down...
Understand that: I am SO SURE the financial system is going to fail that I got out of it as much as I can. My money goes into buying durable goods and locally networked food and textiles.

The money matters because of YOU, and all the others even less prepared than you are. The money matters because of all the humanity that will suffer greatly when this whole dang thing falls to the ground.

The money matters because if there is one chance in hell of preventing that crash, the only way forward is toward reining in this absurd government and adopting a long standing fiscal austerity.

We ain't got the money. How do I get that through your thick head?
The bill is coming due if it is not already past due.
Sure as death that bill will be paid.

Reining reign before the rain. The storm is coming.

And secondly, the money matters to liberty. The super-powerful government y'all helped to grow and expand was left to the democrats that you hate. How much less powerful would they be right now if they had a quarter less to play with? How much harder would they have to work right now if y'all weren't helping them?

Your smarmy statement is an insult to both intellect and intention. We are standing upon and defending the principles of fiscal conservatism and libertarian liberty, Fiscal sanity and small government. Both of which are absolutely and irrevocably tied to basic survival.

Have you tried jumping in the air and clicking your heels 3 times while you make your wishes?

And you are standing opposed to that.

I stand opposed to bullbush dreams that are impossible to achieve. It is better to get SOME of what you want  each time than it is to get  nothing each time because you are going to  hold out for all or nothing.

The Dims didn't get to where they are now overnight,and those of us on the right are not going to get what WE want overnight,either.

The difference is the left showed patience,and took over the Dim Party one little step at a time over a period of decades,and are now in total control of the DNC. Which means,they are damn near in charge of the whole country and everything that happens here.

And people like you want to rant and rave about BS stances that you think will win back control for you overnight.

All "pose" and no action.

[LMAO]

lol

Sp's posts are getting worse

 

[corbe]

   What has not been mentioned throughout this discussion is the fact that the President submits his own budget every year.  Trumps budgets were always humungous, just different spending priorities than Ryan/pelousi.

[roamer_1]

Have you tried jumping in the air and clicking your heels 3 times while you make your wishes?

@sneakypete
No... I've tried voting for people that will actually DO my wishes... And I have backed them with both my treasure and my time. And that has paid off - I backed Reagan and the Conservative movement. I backed the 94 Congress, and I backed the TEA party, All with fantastic results - And real, positive, lasting change.

I stand opposed to bullbush dreams that are impossible to achieve. It is better to get SOME of what you want  each time than it is to get  nothing each time because you are going to  hold out for all or nothing.

The very definition of being satisfied with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade.

And the sad part is, candy burns off quick and leaves you with a belly ache. Just like your 'success' with Tumpy. Great while it lasted, but *gone* all too soon. The only real and lasting legacy he can claim is abortion, because all the rest - ALL of it - was gone the minute Bidet stepped into the office.

And even on abortion, the win was more luck than sense - But it is his win nevertheless. His only other legacy is massive debt and the curtailment of liberty.

But you sure want more candy. And you'll do the same thing again, and get nothing for it again:

Party hard. Screw the future, right?

The Dims didn't get to where they are now overnight,and those of us on the right are not going to get what WE want overnight,either.

The difference is the left showed patience,and took over the Dim Party one little step at a time over a period of decades,and are now in total control of the DNC. Which means,they are damn near in charge of the whole country and everything that happens here.

Pure bullcrap. The liberals drove hard and got their way all the way along - In GIANT leaps and bounds... As Republicans ceded on every front.

Stop ceding. Stop chasing after candy, turn around and FIGHT, and I will be right next to you. Fight hard for Conservatism to win by leaps and bounds and stop settling for nothing.

And people like you want to rant and rave about BS stances that you think will win back control for you overnight.

All "pose" and no action.

That's funny. Because every single action that has brought real and lasting change in my lifetime has been Conservative action - Reagan, the 94 Congress (Contract with America), and the TEA party. All ground-up, grassroots, Conservatives and libertarians together.

The posers are the ones that try to claim conservatism, but stand in its way. Where do you stand?

[roamer_1]

@Hoodat

Yeah,to hell with Trump!

The candidate we need is Santa!

You misspelled 'DeSantis' @sneakypete   

[sneakypete]

You misspelled 'DeSantis' @sneakypete   

@roamer_1

That's funny,even if he IS a back-stabbing little bitch.