DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs

[Right_in_Virginia]

DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
UK captains of industry lambast ‘low-wattage’ US presidential hopeful.
Politico EU, Apr 29, 2023

LONDON — He hopes to win the hearts and minds of devoted Donald Trump supporters ahead of next year’s U.S. election.

But Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis failed to impress British business chiefs at a high-profile London event Friday, in a tired performance described variously as “horrendous,” “low-wattage” and “like the end of an overseas trip.”

The Florida governor, expected to launch his bid next month to challenge Trump as the Republican nominee for the 2024 presidential race, met with more than 50 representatives of major U.K. firms and business lobbying groups as a part of a four-country “trade mission” ending in London Friday.

His trip was officially billed as an attempt to build Florida’s economic relationships with the U.K., Israel, South Korea and Japan, but it has been widely seen in Washington as a chance for DeSantis to present himself as a statesman on the world stage.

For several of those present, however, the statesmanship was lacking.

One U.K. business figure said DeSantis “looked bored” and “stared at his feet” as he met with titans of British industry in an event co-hosted by Lloyd’s of London — the world’s largest insurance marketplace.

“He had been to five different countries in five days and he definitely looked spent, but his message wasn’t presidential,” they told POLITICO. “He was horrendous.”

A second business figure who was in the room said it was a “low-wattage” performance and that “nobody in the room was left thinking, ‘this man’s going places’.”

They said: “It felt really a bit like we were watching a state-level politician. I wouldn’t be surprised if [people in attendance] came out thinking ‘that’s not the guy’.”

“There wasn’t any stardust.”

A third person present at the event agreed “it felt like the end of an overseas trip — which it was,” but insisted DeSantis “came across well.” The best a fourth could muster was that DeSantis was “fine.”


https://www.politico.eu/article/ron-detedious-how-desantis-underwhelmed-britains-business-chiefs/

[Kamaji]

But they're in love with the Orange Nincompoop, no doubt.

[Right_in_Virginia]

But they're in love with the Orange Nincompoop, no doubt.

And your point?

[Kamaji]

And your point?

That whatever you might have to say about RDS - other than your baldfaced lies - applies 10x over to Trump.

I find it simply fascinating that such a cult of personality has developed around Trump that he can go right back to spouting old-school 20th Century liberal pablum, and you people lap it up like it was some new-found revelation from God.

The truest thing Trump ever said was that he could go out onto Fifth Avenue and shoot someone in cold blood, and people like you would not only continue to support him, you'd cheer him on and justify his act of murder.

[LMAO]

That whatever you might have to say about RDS - other than your baldfaced lies - applies 10x over to Trump.

I find it simply fascinating that such a cult of personality has developed around Trump that he can go right back to spouting old-school 20th Century liberal pablum, and you people lap it up like it was some new-found revelation from God.

The truest thing Trump ever said was that he could go out onto Fifth Avenue and shoot someone in cold blood, and people like you would not only continue to support him, you'd cheer him on and justify his act of murder.

Yup

[catfish1957]

DeSantis underwhelms Britain’s business chiefs
UK captains of industry lambast ‘low-wattage’ US presidential hopeful.

Did any of those British economist know or bring up the fact that DJT rang up a record budget defict (actual and inflation adjusted) than any other POTUS in history?

Now that is not only underwhelming, but almost criminal.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I find it simply fascinating that such a cult of personality has developed around Trump that he can go right back to spouting old-school 20th Century liberal pablum, and you people lap it up like it was some new-found revelation from God.

Nah....titans of industry from around the world appreciate Donald Trump --- a man who understands global economics, the art of the trade deal, and who doesn't need a a script written by staffers to talk any and all of it.  Trump's the real deal; DeSantis isn't even good at hiding he's not.

I'm sure global business leaders also appreciate Trump shaking their hands and looking them in the eye when talking with them.

[catfish1957]

Nah....titans of industry from around the world appreciate Donald Trump --- a man who understands global economics, the art of the trade deal, and who doesn't need a a script written by staffers to talk any and all of it.  Trump's the real deal; DeSantis isn't even good at hiding he's not.

I'm sure global business leaders also appreciate Trump shaking their hands and looking them in the eye when talking with them.

Utter baloney.  Corporate titans understand how corporate debt impact EPS, market cap, and business development.  Trump and his predecessors are effectively bankrupting this country.  Are you for that?

If you keep on touting Trump's economic accumen, you are going make yourself look ridiculous.

[Kamaji]

Nah....titans of industry from around the world appreciate Donald Trump --- a man who understands global economics, the art of the trade deal, and who doesn't need a a script written by staffers to talk any and all of it.  Trump's the real deal; DeSantis isn't even good at hiding he's not.

I'm sure global business leaders also appreciate Trump shaking their hands and looking them in the eye when talking with them.

They enjoy another big-government liberal who, when the chips are down, makes sure that they get all the government subsidies they need.

Pfizer luvs them some Trump!

[Right_in_Virginia]

Did any of those British economist know or bring up the fact that DJT rang up a record budget defict (actual and inflation adjusted) than any other POTUS in history?

They were business leaders there to discuss trade with Desantis ---- and Desantis couldn't do it.

[catfish1957]

They were business leaders there to discuss trade with Desantis ---- and Desantis couldn't do it.

Okay, you got me there.  Maybe he needs to bone up a little on some peripheral issues.  But OTOH, don't make DJT out to be some kind of Coolidge.

[Right_in_Virginia]

If you keep on touting Trump's economic accumen, you are going make yourself look ridiculous.

I'll keep touting Trump's trade accumen, but only if you keep touting DeSantis's.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Okay, you got me there.  Maybe he needs to bone up a little on some peripheral issues. 

"Peripheral"???   

[Kamaji]

They were business leaders there to discuss trade with Desantis ---- and Desantis couldn't do it.

There isn't a single substantive criticism of DeSantis in that entire article from these supposed British business leaders.  Instead, their complaints amount to "he wasn't bushy-tailed and bright-eyed enough".  Here are the complaints:

DeSantis “looked bored” and “stared at his feet”

- nothing of substance there

“He had been to five different countries in five days and he definitely looked spent, but his message wasn’t presidential,”

- no substantive criticism there, either.

it was a “low-wattage” performance and that “nobody in the room was left thinking, ‘this man’s going places’.”

- again, no substantive criticism.

Then there's that infamous creature, "they" who had this to say:

“It felt really a bit like we were watching a state-level politician. I wouldn’t be surprised if [people in attendance] came out thinking ‘that’s not the guy’.”

- again, no substantive criticism, just whingy complaints about optics.

But here's the best - this is devastation in true Trumpian fashion:

“There wasn’t any stardust.”

Meanwhile, on the actual substantive matters, here's the key point:

A government official said Badenoch, a rising star in the Conservative Party, and DeSantis had a “fruitful” conversation and that the pair “got on well.”

However, the pair did not discuss the prospect of a state-level economic Memorandum of Understanding between the U.K. and Florida, despite Britain’s efforts to sign similar arrangements with other U.S. states.

A second official said Badenoch’s team “wanted to avoid talking about a Florida MoU” as others are being prioritized, and because of the difficult optics for a British government also dealing with Joe Biden’s White House on several trade-related issues.

In other words, DeSantis was able to talk trade, and did so in a "fruitful" manner.

So, just another hit-piece from the master of TBR PhD.

[cato potatoe]

Politico.  Nice going RIV.

Let’s not kid ourselves.  Everyone in the world knows Trump is an idiot, except for some angry people in the rural United States.  Our image suffered tremendously after his election. 

[catfish1957]

"Peripheral"???   

And Trump was prepared in 2015?  Damn, you've gotten silly.

[Kamaji]

Okay, you got me there.  Maybe he needs to bone up a little on some peripheral issues.  But OTOH, don't make DJT out to be some kind of Coolidge.

@catfish1957

Except that, if one reads the actual article, that is not what the story is about.  In fact, the only comment on the substantive matters indicated that DeSantis had a "fruitful" discussion with Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch.

[catfish1957]

Politico.  Nice going RIV.

Let’s not kid ourselves.  Everyone in the world knows Trump is an idiot, except for some angry people in the rural United States.  Our image suffered tremendously after his election.

Thanks ....  I didn't even notice it was Poltico.   Not that those guys have ever been caught distorting or lying.   

RIV's getting desperate for sources of his RDS hit pieces.

[Kamaji]

"Peripheral"???   

Wow.  You really don't even both reading the articles you post, do you.  For all intents and purposes, you appear to just read the headline, and if it's suitably anti-DeSantis, you just post it.

Here's the only meaningful comment on DeSantis' grasp of substantive matters, from that very same article:

A government official said Badenoch, a rising star in the Conservative Party, and DeSantis had a “fruitful” conversation and that the pair “got on well.”

However, the pair did not discuss the prospect of a state-level economic Memorandum of Understanding between the U.K. and Florida, despite Britain’s efforts to sign similar arrangements with other U.S. states.

A second official said Badenoch’s team “wanted to avoid talking about a Florida MoU” as others are being prioritized, and because of the difficult optics for a British government also dealing with Joe Biden’s White House on several trade-related issues.

A Foreign Office spokesperson said Cleverly and DeSantis discussed “the close and important relationship between the U.K. and Florida.”

Sounds to me like DeSantis did quite nicely where it matters - on the substance.

[LMAO]

All this would be mildly entertaining if there wasn’t so much at stake. It would be different if Trump was winning elections for Republicans but he’s an election loser outside the reddest of red areas. He got very lucky in 2016. History hasn’t repeated itself.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Politico.  Nice going RIV.

Let’s not kid ourselves.  Everyone in the world knows Trump is an idiot, except for some angry people in the rural United States.  Our image suffered tremendously after his election.

Back away from the democrat Kool-Aid ---- while you're still able.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

There isn't a single substantive criticism of DeSantis in that entire article from these supposed British business leaders.  Instead, their complaints amount to "he wasn't bushy-tailed and bright-eyed enough".  Here are the complaints:

- nothing of substance there

- no substantive criticism there, either.

- again, no substantive criticism.

Then there's that infamous creature, "they" who had this to say:

- again, no substantive criticism, just whingy complaints about optics.

But here's the best - this is devastation in true Trumpian fashion:

Meanwhile, on the actual substantive matters, here's the key point:

In other words, DeSantis was able to talk trade, and did so in a "fruitful" manner.

So, just another hit-piece from the master of TBR PhD.

You sound more angry than usual, bro.  The article must have clipped an artery.   

[bigheadfred]

You sound more angry than usual, bro.  The article must have clipped an artery.   

Heh heh heh 

[Kamaji]

You sound more angry than usual, bro.  The article must have clipped an artery.   

Yeah, putting up with your lies will do that to even the most level-headed of us here.

[libertybele]

DeSantis making trade deals??? That's not his job.

IMHO DeSantis is slowly introducing himself to world leaders.  Nothing more.  He's getting his feet wet to see if there's a viable path to the presidency in '24.

Trump was a known presence on the global stage, that can't be denied.