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Are you REALLY so clueless that you can't understand the difference between a non-career politician and a career politician?

You’re still not answering my question, but oh well
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Well, you’re dodging the question.

But there’s a name for what you’re doing. It’s called hypocrisy. You are demanding that other people vote for Trump if he’s the nominee otherwise they’ll be helping Biden. But somehow that doesn’t apply to your choice.

@LMAO

It's really not that complex. I am right,and you are wrong.
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And THAT makes the DNC hate and fear him?

Nope.  That makes them hate and fear him less than the GOP does.

The DNC actually doesn't really hate him; they use him as a cats-paw to get their own base all wound up.  However, he and they are birds of a feather, so any hatred is more akin to the hatred that existed between the Soviets and the Nazis, both of whom were socialists.

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Laughter is the only answer your post deserved.  Your faith in the Orange Nincompoop is touching, and very naive, and entirely misplaced.  While in office, Trump didn't manage to do much other than make messes.  He certainly didn't fix anything.  Meanwhile, DeSantis and the Florida legislature pushed through a series of tough election reforms that have now withstood a dem/lib legal challenge.

What has Trump done, either in office or out of office, to help fix this country's broken election system?  Nothing, that's what.

So, in terms of who is going to act in the best interests of the average citizen, that goes to DeSantis; it certainly doesn't go to Trump.

So, your thesis is false.  Provably false.


DeSantis does have the advantage of a solid GOP Statehouse so he doesn’t have the opposition he would have if he became president
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@LMAO

It's really not that complex. I am right,and you are wrong.

That’s OK

It’s not like anybody ever admits their hypocrisy
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Nope.  That makes them hate and fear him less than the GOP does.

The DNC actually doesn't really hate him; they use him as a cats-paw to get their own base all wound up.  However, he and they are birds of a feather, so any hatred is more akin to the hatred that existed between the Soviets and the Nazis, both of whom were socialists.

Trump is a major “get out the vote” drive for the Democrats. When they promoted Trump backed candidates in the primaries in 2022, I didn’t think it would work. But it worked very well
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DeSantis does have the advantage of a solid GOP Statehouse so he doesn’t have the opposition he would have if he became president


And he's managed to be effective with that.

The issue of a flawed U.S. election system became a non-issue for Trump except to the extent that he could make it all about him and claim his second term was stolen.

Absent that, he doesn't appear to give a rat's ass about the U.S. election system, nor trying to use his position to encourage people to do something about it.

All he wants to do is to complain about how he was shafted.  He doesn't care a rat's ass about anyone else.

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Nope.  That makes them hate and fear him less than the GOP does.

The DNC actually doesn't really hate him; they use him as a cats-paw to get their own base all wound up.  However, he and they are birds of a feather, so any hatred is more akin to the hatred that existed between the Soviets and the Nazis, both of whom were socialists.

@Kamaji

I think I need to stop discussing this  issue with you.
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Trump is a major “get out the vote” drive for the Democrats. 

@LMAO

THAT is something I agree with you on. They fear him because he isn't a career politician,and a win by him would represent a threat to all of them,come the next election.
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THAT is something I agree with you on. They fear him because he isn't a career politician,and a win by him would represent a threat to all of them,come the next election.

And they also know that tying candidates to him is a winner for them. That’s been proven over and over.

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Trump is a major “get out the vote” drive for the Democrats. When they promoted Trump backed candidates in the primaries in 2022, I didn’t think it would work. But it worked very well

Well to be fair, he's a major get out the vote for his own voters as well, I believe Trump got a record number of GOP votes in 2020. I just don't think he motivates pro-Trump voters as much as anti, or depressingly there's simply more of them then there are of us.

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@LMAO

THAT is something I agree with you on. They fear him because he isn't a career politician,and a win by him would represent a threat to all of them,come the next election.

No, they don't fear him because he's not a career politician; they dislike him because he represents a competing brand of left-wing populism, and because he can be used like a cats-paw to get their own voter base worked up and out to vote for DNC candidates.

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Part of Trump’s anxiety when it comes to  debating is probably because he knows the other candidates will go after his record, especially on Covid, and even more so, the spending

Unlike rallies, or even what  many of his supporters here do, he can’t spin or ignore the issues in a debate
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Part of Trump’s anxiety when it comes to  debating is probably because he knows the other candidates will go after his record, especially on Covid, and even more so, the spending

Unlike rallies, or even what  many of his supporters here do, he can’t spin or ignore the issues in a debate

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Well to be fair, he's a major get out the vote for his own voters as well, I believe Trump got a record number of GOP votes in 2020. I just don't think he motivates pro-Trump voters as much as anti, or depressingly there's simply more of them then there are of us.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

That is especially true when you count the illegal alien vote and the "alien from another universe" vote.

Seemed to ME like the Dims weren't even trying to hide their vote fraud the last couple of elections.
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No, really. No one - And I do mean no one of any standing, has any argument against the existence of Jesus of Nazareth. That point has been ceded long, long ago. Proofs of existence abound... Four direct and explicit, and many, many, implied - and many of those from enemies of the Judeo-Christian religion, who have no cause but to curse it.

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In WHAT universe?


Atheist scholars are confounded by the very proofs I point to... And can admire the construction thereof, despite their position.

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Which only  proves you  have never studied it with  an  open mind. You saw what you wanted to see.


Quite the contrary - I have spent my life seeking proof of god (and/or gods). I doubt you would find a god or god system I am not at least passingly familiar with, and that particular to prophecy... I can assure you that there is only one God that has called his shots from the beginning and made every one.

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BS stacked a hundred miles high is still BS.


Except that it is not BS. Math doesn't lie.

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Pardon me for  not  being  a drone.


Pardon the observation, but your closed mind from your youth has made you precisely that. Jussayin.

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ROFLMAO! How about you trot him out and let us all have a look at him?

The day will come - It is written. You will get your wish.  happy77

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BTW,you DO realize this is an argument that is going nowhere,right?

Yes. And I won't belabor the point further and hijack the thread. Your position is, as the Catlicks put it, 'invincibly ignorant'.

But neither will I allow your comments to stand without challenge from time to time.
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No, really. No one - And I do mean no one of any standing, has any argument against the existence of Jesus of Nazareth. That point has been ceded long, long ago. Proofs of existence abound... Four direct and explicit, and many, many, implied - and many of those from enemies of the Judeo-Christian religion, who have no cause but to curse it.

Atheist scholars are confounded by the very proofs I point to... And can admire the construction thereof, despite their position.

Quite the contrary - I have pent my life seeking proof of god (and/or gods). I doubt you would find a god or god system I am not at least passingly familiar with, and that particular to prophecy... I can assure you that there is only one God that has called his shots from the beginning and made every one.

Except that it is not BS. Math doesn't lie.

Pardon the observation, but your closed mind from your youth has made you precisely that. Jussayin.

The day will come - It is written. You will get your wish.  happy77


BTW,you DO realize this is an argument that is going nowhere,right?


Yes. And I won't belabor the point further and hijack the thread. Your position is, as the Catlicks put it, 'invincibly ignorant'.

ROFLMAO!

 
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Well to be fair, he's a major get out the vote for his own voters as well, I believe Trump got a record number of GOP votes in 2020.

I think the 2020 election on both sides was an anomaly because of COVID. A great many states changed their voting rules to make absentee voting much easier, and that pulled people into voting who had not bothered to vote before. They might not care enough to head to the polls on election day itself, but the Dems door-to-door campaigning was enough to get them to fill out their ballots.

That was the Dems biggest advantage - their potential voters are more likely to be located in urban and densely populated suburban areas.  That makes door to door canvassing much easier than it is in Republican areas.  That was a huge advantage in 2020 when so many absentee ballots were mailed out.

I know that at least some states have re-tightened the voting rules from COVID, and I suspect turnout may not be what it was in 2020.

I'd be very surprised if Trump got as many votes in 2024 as he did in 2020.
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Record voting compared to what? The weak sauce of Romney and McCain? Anything farther back than that is demographically a generation smaller, and 'record' would be expected.

I think Republicans have been bleeding people like me for a long, long time.

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Uhhh,you  DO understand that Trump is running for the Presidency,not for the office of some state government,right?

Is it your contention that a voter is more likely to choose a generic democrat for president than a generic democrat for governor or congress?  I'd like to see the data behind that.  The nation is quite polarized.

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Is it your contention that a voter is more likely to choose a generic democrat for president than a generic democrat for governor or congress?  I'd like to see the data behind that.  The nation is quite polarized.

@cato potatoe

In some states/areas,yes.

In others,no.

For the most part,I SUSPECT the Dims already have the "poverty votes" locked up,and there isn't a damn thing the Republicans can do about that at  this point in time.

The ones those of us on the right have to fight to acquire are the employed blue collar workers,and some of the lower to medium paid  white collar workers. We (Republicans) don't have to get them all,but that IS where the votes are that are not already dedicated to one party or  another,and  we can  NOT follow in the footsteps of the left to do it by "buying their votes". Republicans need to convince them that joining with the left will only gain them the illusion of economic freedom,and the reality of slavery. Give people honest hope  that if they work and produce they can hope to improve their positions in life,and they WILL work and earn it,and be happy and proud to have done it.

While at it,we need to get them to understand that all the "free stuff" the left offers them is not only NOT free,it is nothing more than the chains that will bind them into slavery. Not really all that hard to do when you  consider that all that would really be required would be actual film footage of life in communist  countries.

I am sure there are many,many other things that can be done to open their eyes and get them believing in capitalism, but I will leave that to others who are better informed than I am.

What I DO know is that it CAN be done,but it has to  be "sold" to them. It can't be forced down their throats.
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DeSantis didn't stab Trump in the back.  Trump is doing his level best to stab DeSantis in the back, the front, and both sides, too.  Just like a typical liberal.

RDS has not bowed down and proclaimed Trump to be his god. And that’s the same thing as stabbing him in the back, in Trump-world.
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For the most part,I SUSPECT the Dims already have the "poverty votes" locked up,and there isn't a damn thing the Republicans can do about that at  this point in time.

The ones those of us on the right have to fight to acquire are the employed blue collar workers,and some of the lower to medium paid  white collar workers. We (Republicans) don't have to get them all,but that IS where the votes are that are not already dedicated to one party or  another,


By far and away, the votes to be mined are those that are disaffected and disenfranchised.

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By far and away, the votes to be mined are those that are disaffected and disenfranchised.

@roamer_1

Sad to  say,but the DNC OWNS those votes.

Even if the disaffected and disenfranchised don't know they are voting Dim.

Or voting at all.

The most important thing those of us on the right need to do is to figure out a way to stop the voter fraud. I don't even believe the Dims won the last couple of elections. They flat STOLE them via voter fraud.

Hell,they are not even trying to hide it anymore.
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RDS has not bowed down and proclaimed Trump to be his god. And that’s the same thing as stabbing him in the back, in Trump-world.

This is really an unfair portrayal of both men @debrawiest   DeSantis does owe his career to President Trump's support, and did assure the President that rumors of him running in 2024 were untrue ---- even as he was organizing for the run in 2021.

And, yes, the Trump reelection campaign is using this against the governor.  They are sharpening the prism through which Republicans and MAGA will view eveything Ronny says.  What troubles Ronny's supporters and reduces them to  :bs:  like "not bowed down and proclaimed Trump to be his god" is because that prism is effective, and it is effective because it is true.

And Ronny has only himself to blame.  Here's an example:

"THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO CAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"  (Video)


https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1650644427847729152