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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1025 on: January 06, 2023, 08:47:08 pm »
Quote from: LilLamb on January 06, 2023, 07:31:38 pm
But, they are standing up to hold McCarthy’s feet to the fire. They want solid conservative concessions from him BEFORE they vote for him. I can’t see how you don’t stand up for that.

Once you realize that the "drain the swamp" mantra has been complete bullshit from Day One, it becomes clear.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1026 on: January 06, 2023, 08:47:23 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 06, 2023, 08:45:33 pm
These guys didn't have a plan either.

I think this went EXACTLY according to plan.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1027 on: January 06, 2023, 08:48:04 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 06, 2023, 07:32:41 pm
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
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Lauren Boebert will have Kevin McCarthy's balls in her purse for the next 2 years.

If only.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1028 on: January 06, 2023, 08:48:47 pm »
What are we on now...roynd 14?    Man this should have been a drinking game.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1029 on: January 06, 2023, 08:50:41 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 06, 2023, 08:48:47 pm
What are we on now...roynd 14?    Man this should have been a drinking game.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1030 on: January 06, 2023, 08:52:42 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:35:57 pm
He had plenty of time  to work out all the scenrios he'd need to build the caucus?

There were literally hundreds of possible combinations of people that could have ended up in the GOP caucus after the election.   The idea that McCarthy should have been able to negotiate with each of those possible combinations, figuring out exactly what concessions would have to be made to each person within each of those combinations to get them to 218, while all those people were in the middle of a race, is just ridiculous.  If you want to believe that, though, that's your business.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1031 on: January 06, 2023, 08:53:32 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 06, 2023, 08:47:23 pm
I think this went EXACTLY according to plan.

Whodathunk they'd have held strong for that many votes and extracted what concessions they did?

We came out alot better than what I thought we would going in.

If there was an organizer for all that, they get a hat tip for the testicular fortitude or titanium ovaries alone.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1032 on: January 06, 2023, 08:54:03 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 06, 2023, 08:52:42 pm
There were literally hundreds of possible combinations of people that could have endedup in the GOP caucus after the election.   The idea that McCarthy should have been able to negotiate with each of those possible combinations, figuring out exactly what concessions would have to be made to each person within each of those combinations to get them to 218, while all those people were in the middle of a race, is just ridiculous.  If you want to believe that, though, that's your business.

The election was a month ago.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1033 on: January 06, 2023, 08:54:11 pm »
I've been fighting @roamer_1  for years here at TBR about the so called binary choice for the betterment of the country around party loyalty.  I am about to concede. 

If any thing has taught me this week, is that the "Uni-Party label"  is more than a motif.  It's a real and destructive force strangling  the long term functionality of this country.

I was a pioneer southern Republican, and the 3rd in the history of my County to Register so in 1975.  Looks like that relationship is crumbling
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1034 on: January 06, 2023, 08:54:38 pm »
Adjourned for the day it looks like.

Anyone catch when they were to reconvene?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1035 on: January 06, 2023, 08:55:55 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on January 06, 2023, 08:54:38 pm
Adjourned for the day it looks like.

Anyone catch when they were to reconvene?

10 p.m EST
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1036 on: January 06, 2023, 08:56:09 pm »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1037 on: January 06, 2023, 08:56:53 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on January 06, 2023, 08:53:32 pm
Whodathunk they'd have held strong for that many votes and extracted what concessions they did?

We came out alot better than what I thought we would going in.

If there was an organizer for all that, they get a hat tip for the testicular fortitude or titanium ovaries alone.

That's ALL right, despite the hand-wringing and pearl-clutching of the various detractors around here.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1038 on: January 06, 2023, 08:58:28 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 06, 2023, 08:56:53 pm
That's ALL right, despite the hand-wringing and pearl-clutching of the various detractors around here.

We still don't know all the details of this so called agreement.  Anyone here trust McCarthy?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1039 on: January 06, 2023, 09:00:14 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:58:28 pm
We still don't know all the details of this so called agreement.  Anyone here trust McCarthy?

Oh, hell no.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1040 on: January 06, 2023, 09:00:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:54:11 pm

If any thing has taught me this week, is that the "Uni-Party label"  is more than a motif.  It's a real and destructive force strangling  the long term functionality of this country.



That is profoundly true, and self-evident.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1041 on: January 06, 2023, 09:03:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:58:28 pm
We still don't know all the details of this so called agreement.  Anyone here trust McCarthy?

No, not until I can poke him with a stick to make sure he's dead...

BUT, I do trust Freedom Caucus a ways, and I assume there are ways and means to secure guarantees. So the win is coming.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1042 on: January 06, 2023, 09:03:41 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:58:28 pm
We still don't know all the details of this so called agreement.  Anyone here trust McCarthy?
The fact that the Democrats and their media support McCarthy for speaker tells you all you need to know.
If the Democrats want it, whatever it is, you know it cannot be a good thing for America.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1043 on: January 06, 2023, 09:07:25 pm »
    Boebert explains why we just witnessed this CF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i5YhBXEFMA
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1044 on: January 06, 2023, 09:08:38 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 06, 2023, 08:00:00 pm
Just wanted to read this excellent analysis again. Insightful and so true.

Let me second that...the Major is killing it today!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1045 on: January 06, 2023, 09:09:49 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 06, 2023, 08:02:32 pm
It's more than rumor .....   happy77

Not until it shows up in writing, it's not.  Trust but verify.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1046 on: January 06, 2023, 09:10:29 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 06, 2023, 07:39:12 pm
No more funding from that one particular PAC, yes.  But that won't stop any other PAC from doing the exact same thing

If it is that simple to bypass, then why won't McCarthy give it up?

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1047 on: January 06, 2023, 09:10:39 pm »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1048 on: January 06, 2023, 09:11:01 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 08:58:28 pm
We still don't know all the details of this so called agreement.  Anyone here trust McCarthy?

I hope they realize that this is the first shot in a long battle. They are going to have to hold together and keep the feet to the fire.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
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