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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1775 on: August 01, 2022, 11:54:28 am »
Lebanon Seizes Ship Loaded With Stolen Ukrainian Grain

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=52143

A small story with possibly big implications:

    Lebanon has seized a ship loaded with barley and wheat flour while it determines whether the cargo may have been stolen from Ukraine, said Public Prosecutor Ghassan Oueidat.

    The Ukrainian Embassy in Beirut said the vessel was loaded at Feodosia in the Russian-occupied peninsula of Crimea, and that the commodities originated from Zaporizhzhia, Mykolaiv and Kherson in southeastern Ukraine.

    The embassy accused Russia of stealing more than 500,000 tons during its occupation of the three regions. While Russia denies stealing grain, it has publicly touted the resumption of grain shipments from occupied ports.

    Grain shipments from Crimea have surged since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, which analysts say indicates Ukrainian grain is being exported. Exports from Crimea are sanctioned by the European Union and the U.S..

    The cargo ship Laodicea arrived at Tripoli in northern Lebanon on July 27, according to ship-tracking data monitored by Bloomberg. It will be held while Lebanon carries out an investigation into the cargo’s origin, Oueidat told Bloomberg.

Supposedly the seizure is limited to 72 hours. We’ll see.

    The ship’s registered owner is Syria Mar Shipping Ltd., according to European database Equasis. Syria Mar Shipping Ltd. wasn’t immediately available to comment. Both the company and the ship were sanctioned by the U.S. in 2015 for their association with the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad.

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« Reply #1776 on: August 01, 2022, 01:13:53 pm »
One of Ukraine’s richest men killed after Russian missile hit his home

https://nypost.com/2022/07/31/one-of-ukraines-richest-men-oleksiy-vadaturksy-killed-in-strike/

One of Ukraine’s richest and most prominent businessmen was killed in what Kyiv said was a targeted Russian bombardment on his home.

Grain exporter Oleksiy Vadaturksy, 74, and his wife Raisa died after a missile slammed into their home in the southern city of Mykolaiv Saturday night, according to the BBC.

Vadaturksy owned Ukrainian agricultural company Nibulon, and was considered one of the war-torn nation’s most successful business figures.

Mykolaiv, which lies on the route to the critical port of Odessa, has undergone fierce Russian shelling since the country launched its invasion in February.

An adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymy Zelensky asserted that Vadaturksy was targeted by Russian forces and that the missile landed in his home’s bedroom.


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« Reply #1777 on: August 01, 2022, 02:05:34 pm »
@sneakypete

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/putin-alleged-super-yacht-seized-italy

The yacht was seized under coordinated measures with the European Union due to Russia's involvement in "undermining or threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine."

https://www.mef.gov.it/en/ufficio-stampa/comunicati/2022/Adopted-the-freezing-decree-of-the-boat-Scheherazade-00001/

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Thank you. I didn't have any idea the EU had the stones to do something like that.

Then again,WHY does the leader of a socialist state even own a yacht,and where did the money come from?

Theoretical question because as we all know that a life-long dedicated commie member of the USSR intelligence bureau that he would never even DREAM of owning a yacht unless everybody could afford to own a yacht.

BTW,WHY have none of the old commies in the Politburo raised hell about this?

Could it be because they weren't the dedicated commies that pretended to be,but wealthy slave masters exploiting their country's wealth and enslaved people,instead?
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1778 on: August 01, 2022, 02:09:19 pm »


 
The problem remains takeaway capacity, pipeline or rail, and this Administration has been about as hostile toward new infrastructure, or expansion of existing infrastructure as it gets.

Our biggest obstacle remains the people in DC, at BLM (Bureau of Land Management) USFWS, Interior Dept., DOE and EPA.

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Ahm shocked! SHOCKED,AH TELLS YA?

Hooda evur thunk a peeppulls prisidint lak Joe wood do sumptin lik dat?

An to thik dat ah tok a day offen ob graduite skool to vote fur him!

Why,I neva.........!
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1779 on: August 01, 2022, 02:16:26 pm »
Lebanon Seizes Ship Loaded With Stolen Ukrainian Grain

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=52143

A small story with possibly big implications:

    Lebanon has seized a ship loaded with barley and wheat flour while it determines whether the cargo may have been stolen from Ukraine, said Public Prosecutor Ghassan Oueidat.

    The Ukrainian Embassy in Beirut said the vessel was loaded at Feodosia in the Russian-occupied peninsula of Crimea, and that the commodities originated from Zaporizhzhia, Mykolaiv and Kherson in southeastern Ukraine.

   

@Elderberry

When a tiny little country has the stones to stand up to a superpower bully like the "New and Improved USSR",that tells a story.

At times it almost seems like Putin is a double agent,working for the west to destroy the military power and influence of Russia,doesn't it?

Is it even possible for someone in his position to do things THIS freaking stupid and not understand the implications?
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« Reply #1780 on: August 02, 2022, 01:59:56 am »
@Smokin Joe

Ahm shocked! SHOCKED,AH TELLS YA?

Hooda evur thunk a peeppulls prisidint lak Joe wood do sumptin lik dat?

An to thik dat ah tok a day offen ob graduite skool to vote fur him!

Why,I neva.........!
I know, right? After all he promised he'd do that, and we all know they never keep their promises... :shrug:
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« Reply #1781 on: August 02, 2022, 02:01:09 am »
@Elderberry

When a tiny little country has the stones to stand up to a superpower bully like the "New and Improved USSR",that tells a story.

At times it almost seems like Putin is a double agent,working for the west to destroy the military power and influence of Russia,doesn't it?

Is it even possible for someone in his position to do things THIS freaking stupid and not understand the implications?
Not the West, unless it is the WEF...promised his piece of the pie to bring down the rest, just like the rest.
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« Reply #1782 on: August 02, 2022, 03:19:24 am »
Not the West, unless it is the WEF...promised his piece of the pie to bring down the rest, just like the rest.

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Maybe I am having a brain fart,but I have no idea what the "WEF" is.
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« Reply #1783 on: August 02, 2022, 03:35:53 am »
@Smokin Joe

Maybe I am having a brain fart,but I have no idea what the "WEF" is.
World Economic Forum the Davos crowd of "elites" who really want the rest of us to live like medieval peasants (serfs). Y'know, the "You will own nothing and be happy" crowd.
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« Reply #1784 on: August 02, 2022, 03:43:12 am »
World Economic Forum the Davos crowd of "elites" who really want the rest of us to live like medieval peasants (serfs). Y'know, the "You will own nothing and be happy" crowd.

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Got it!

Thank you,and I am in total agreement on your opinion of the Davos crowd!
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1785 on: August 02, 2022, 12:37:15 pm »
Russian forces shelling from cover of Ukrainian nuclear plant: report

By Evan Simko-Bednarski
August 1, 2022

Russian forces are shelling towns in southern Ukraine from a position inside Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, according to a report Monday.

Russian artillery firing from within the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant on the Dnipro River doesn’t fear reprisal, Ukrainian officials say, because the collateral damage of a Ukrainian strike could be catastrophic, the New York Times reported.

“They are hiding there so they cannot be hit,” said Oleksandr Sayuk, the mayor of Nikopol – -a Ukrainian town across the river from the plant, told the newspaper.

“Why else would they be at the electrical station? To use such an object as a shield is very dangerous.”

The power plant — some 75 miles downriver from the Ukrainian-controlled city of the same name — contains six nuclear reactors, among which the Russians have built a small outpost after seizing control in early March.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/08/01/russian-forces-shelling-from-ukrainian-nuclear-plant-report/

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« Reply #1786 on: August 02, 2022, 12:54:55 pm »
Ukraine reclaims 46 settlements as Putin's troops are forced to give up territory throughout Kherson region amid Kyiv's counter-offensive

By CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE
1 August 2022

Ukraine has recaptured dozens of southern settlements from Russia as Kyiv's forces lay the groundwork for a major counter-attack against Kherson city.

Dmytro Butriy, head of the Kherson region, said Kyiv's men have liberated 46 occupied settlements within the last 24 hours, mostly in the north.

But at least some are located to the south, along the Black Sea coast which is close to the city itself. Russia struck back by hitting Mykolaiv - down the coast from Kherson - with artillery overnight, destroying a medical centre.

Ukraine has previously boasted that the whole of Kherson - city and region - will be back under its control by September, in what would be a hammer blow for Putin.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11069451/Ukraine-reclaims-46-settlements-Putins-troops-Kherson-region.html

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« Reply #1787 on: August 02, 2022, 12:56:36 pm »
Putin says ‘there can be no winners in nuclear war, it should never be started’

By REUTERS and TOM BROWN FOR MAILONLINE
1 August 2022

Vladimir Putin has said a nuclear war must 'never be started' following heightened tension between Moscow and NATO in light of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

'As a state party to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and one of its depositaries, Russia is consistently complying with the letter and the spirit of the Treaty,' Putin said in a letter to participants of a conference on the treaty in New York.

'We proceed from the fact that there can be no winners in a nuclear war and it should never be unleashed, and we stand for equal and indivisible security for all members of the world community.'

UN head Antonio Guterres warned on the same day that humanity was 'just one miscalculation away from nuclear annihilation,' with the world facing a threat 'not seen since the height of the Cold War.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11069757/Putin-says-no-winners-nuclear-war-never-started.html

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« Reply #1788 on: August 02, 2022, 01:24:55 pm »
Russian forces shelling from cover of Ukrainian nuclear plant: report

By Evan Simko-Bednarski
August 1, 2022

Russian forces are shelling towns in southern Ukraine from a position inside Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, according to a report Monday.

Russian artillery firing from within the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant on the Dnipro River doesn’t fear reprisal, Ukrainian officials say, because the collateral damage of a Ukrainian strike could be catastrophic, the New York Times reported.

“They are hiding there so they cannot be hit,” said Oleksandr Sayuk, the mayor of Nikopol – -a Ukrainian town across the river from the plant, told the newspaper.

“Why else would they be at the electrical station? To use such an object as a shield is very dangerous.”

The power plant — some 75 miles downriver from the Ukrainian-controlled city of the same name — contains six nuclear reactors, among which the Russians have built a small outpost after seizing control in early March.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/08/01/russian-forces-shelling-from-ukrainian-nuclear-plant-report/

@Kamaji

Ahhh,the Ruskies!

Ain't NOBODY that knows better how to win international hearts and minds so their cause can be seen in a favorable light than them,is there?

After all,Genghis Khan,Hitler,and Stalin are all long dead.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1789 on: August 02, 2022, 01:39:18 pm »
Russian forces shelling from cover of Ukrainian nuclear plant: report

By Evan Simko-Bednarski
August 1, 2022

Russian forces are shelling towns in southern Ukraine from a position inside Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, according to a report Monday.

Russian artillery firing from within the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant on the Dnipro River doesn’t fear reprisal, Ukrainian officials say, because the collateral damage of a Ukrainian strike could be catastrophic, the New York Times reported.

Why does this bother you so much? 

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« Reply #1790 on: August 02, 2022, 01:44:50 pm »
Why does this bother you so much?

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A better question is "Why DOESN'T it bother you?"

Seems like you are taking a potential neo-Soviet loss personally.
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« Reply #1791 on: August 02, 2022, 01:45:09 pm »
@Kamaji

Ahhh,the Ruskies!

Ain't NOBODY that knows better how to win international hearts and minds so their cause can be seen in a favorable light than them,is there?

After all,Genghis Khan,Hitler,and Stalin are all long dead.

What has this  pointing-up   to do with the Russians reportedly shelling from the safe haven of a power plant @sneakypete ?

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« Reply #1792 on: August 02, 2022, 01:46:09 pm »
What has this  pointing-up   to do with the Russians reportedly shelling from the safe haven of a power plant @sneakypete ?


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Celebrating a potential neo-Soviet victory,comrade?

If not,maybe you can get a teen,or someone else better informed,to explain it to you?
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« Reply #1793 on: August 02, 2022, 01:51:42 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

A better question is "Why DOESN'T it bother you?"

Seems like you are taking a potential neo-Soviet loss personally.

Do you understand that the Russians made a strategic decision to fire from a safe haven.  Wouldn't we seek to do the same thing?  @sneakypete

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« Reply #1794 on: August 02, 2022, 01:57:12 pm »

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Celebrating a potential neo-Soviet victory,comrade?

Good discussion, @sneakypete  ..... As insightful, honest and enlightening as always.    88devil

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« Reply #1795 on: August 02, 2022, 02:20:17 pm »
Good discussion, @sneakypete  ..... As insightful, honest and enlightening as always.    88devil

lol...  Not the first of the "duped" to call us "comrades" just because we are more pro-American than pro-Ukranian.

You'd think at least a 1/3 have been listening to Tucker Carlson's op-eds on the matter. 
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« Reply #1796 on: August 02, 2022, 02:23:06 pm »
Putin says ‘there can be no winners in nuclear war, it should never be started’

By REUTERS and TOM BROWN FOR MAILONLINE
1 August 2022

Vladimir Putin has said a nuclear war must 'never be started' following heightened tension between Moscow and NATO in light of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

'As a state party to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and one of its depositaries, Russia is consistently complying with the letter and the spirit of the Treaty,' Putin said in a letter to participants of a conference on the treaty in New York.

'We proceed from the fact that there can be no winners in a nuclear war and it should never be unleashed, and we stand for equal and indivisible security for all members of the world community.'

UN head Antonio Guterres warned on the same day that humanity was 'just one miscalculation away from nuclear annihilation,' with the world facing a threat 'not seen since the height of the Cold War.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11069757/Putin-says-no-winners-nuclear-war-never-started.html
Right up until Iran lobs one in...maybe not at Israel, but at Russia, hoping to provoke a major exchange.
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« Reply #1797 on: August 02, 2022, 02:26:30 pm »
Do you understand that the Russians made a strategic decision to fire from a safe haven.  Wouldn't we seek to do the same thing?  @sneakypete
"Safe haven"?

Seriously?

Like launching missiles from schoolyards in Gaza, only a thousand times worse.

Hopefully, the Ukrainians will get within switchblade drone range and eliminate this nonsense without causing a major nuclear release.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1798 on: August 02, 2022, 02:34:41 pm »
Do you understand that the Russians made a strategic decision to fire from a safe haven.  Wouldn't we seek to do the same thing? @sneakypete

Israel doesn't base their attacks from refugee camps, the Pallies do that.  We would not either, so your point is not valid.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1799 on: August 02, 2022, 02:56:25 pm »
Do you understand that the Russians made a strategic decision to fire from a safe haven.  Wouldn't we seek to do the same thing?  @sneakypete

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As a squad or platoon leader under enemy fire and needing cover at that moment,almost certainly.

As a commander,there is no way in hell I would do that in shooting war due to the political fallout,and the potential damage it would do to our cause.

Not that this has ever been a consideration for Russians. Check out the WW-2 "Red Army Blocking Squads" for proof of how cheap the Soviet leadership holds the lives of their troops.
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