Sen. Ted Cruz stumps in Iowa, fueling talk of 2024 White House bid

[GtHawk]

  "CRUZ...would stab America in the back in a heart beat!"

Huh! What?????

Never, ever expect anything rational from LA, the problem with the ignore feature is if someone else responds you still see the persons post. I can understand if someone doesn't like Cruz, hell it's America everyone has that right, but to just throw irrational BS like a monkey in a cage

[GtHawk]

@Longiron

Ted Cruz is never going to really run for President. Yeah,he will do a few headfakes to make it look like he is,but that's just gameplaying. He seems to have a pretty sweet deal as a Senator,and he ain't about to give that up for all the grief of being President.

If Cruz ran and got the nomination I would vote for him no question, not only is he smarter than damn near anyone that has run but he actually knows how our Republic works and the Constitution better than anybody who has ran except maybe one of the Founding Fathers. As has been presented in the past by others though, and I agree, I think he would best serve after the Senate in the Supreme Court.

[corbe]

   Who the hell woke up the NC'ers?

*Never Cruz 

[HoustonSam]

I seriously doubt Cruz would run if Trump runs, he's too smart for that nor do I believe he would do anything to undercut Trump with the democrat socialists being so dangerous. I thing Cruz would be a great VP choice if Trump runs but I doubt he would accept it.

No R with any serious aspirations would be a running mate for Trump or even serve in a second Trump administration.  The trail of dead R bodies Trump left behind him is too long to ignore.  And it's a lot longer than the trail of dead D bodies Trump left behind - that trail is Hillary alone.

I'll certainly vote for Trump if he's the R nominee - the country would be far better off today had he remained in the Oval Office.  But it is simply undeniable that he just about destroyed everyone who came in contact with him; Mike Pompeo is the only exception I can immediately think of.  Perhaps I could add Sarah Sanders and Kayleigh McEnany to that list but neither of them achieved the national prominence we need in serious leadership.

If someone wants to argue with this premise, all they have to do is name another Cabinet-level Trump admin figure who came out of the Trump admin in a stronger position personally.  We can blame Pence and Sessions and Tillerson and Mattis and Priebus and Kelly and Scaramucci and all the others all we want, but all we demonstrate by doing so is that working for Trump is a career-ending move.

As seriously as the Biden admin is failing, we're also in a tough spot on this side when the most charismatic leader with the most loyalty among the rank and file is toxic to those closest to him.

[sneakypete]

If Cruz ran and got the nomination I would vote for him no question, not only is he smarter than damn near anyone that has run but he actually knows how our Republic works and the Constitution better than anybody who has ran except maybe one of the Founding Fathers. As has been presented in the past by others though, and I agree, I think he would best serve after the Senate in the Supreme Court.

@GtHawk

I agree about him probably being the smartest creature in the US Senate,but I just don't see him giving up his Senate seat for anything. He  MIGHT take a nomination for the SC if he lost his seat for some reason,though. Just guessing,don't really know.

[Smokin Joe]

Too bad we didn't choose Cruz in 2016. We wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

I don't know why you think that. The Dems and the GOP were hating on Cruz before they started hating on Trump.

[catfish1957]

I 2nd that motion.  A retraction is warranted. As for the nonsensical shict that LA spews; it does become tiresome and sometimes so ridiculous it actually borders on humor.

Yep...  instead overdosing on MAGA Pills, she needs to apologize at this "conservative" site, for lying and slandering maybe the most "conservative" lawmaker in DC.  She might be a Forrest Gump prototype brand of humor, but after the past few weeks, I am in not in the mood for Legal American's bullshit.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yep...  instead overdosing on MAGA Pills, she needs to apologize at this "conservative" site, for lying and slandering maybe the most "conservative" lawmaker in DC.  She might be a Forrest Gump prototype brand of humor, but after the past few weeks, I am in not in the mood for Legal American's bullshit.

Isn't a primary tenet of TBR (at least since 2016) that a politician is fair game, a Briefer is not?

Asking for a friend.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Is America ready to elect a Canadian-Cuban, Princeton-educated, Harvard law graduate, part-time resident of Cancun to the White House?

Cruz dare not run against Trump, lest Trump give Cruz another atomic wedgie and stick his head in a flushing toilet.

[catfish1957]

Isn't a primary tenet of TBR (at least since 2016) that a politician is fair game, a Briefer is not?

Asking for a friend.

I'm too tired to start with Pot/Kettle analogies at this point.  It's enough to have to stomach the Orange Spam, but when that individual slanders one of the strongest voices on our side, I have to draw the line. If the Mods want to slap me for that, so be it.

[HoustonSam]

Is America ready to elect a Canadian-Cuban, Princeton-educated, Harvard law graduate, part-time resident of Cancun to the White House?

Cruz dare not run against Trump, lest Trump give Cruz another atomic wedgie and stick his head in a flushing toilet.

One of the strongest arguments I've heard for Trump is that those of us who dislike him personally should distinguish that personal sense from our assessment of what is best for the country.  I've thought about that carefully, and I decided that was a valid and persuasive argument, and it's one of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2020.  Regardless of my low opinion of Trump as a man, I thought the country would be better off with him staying in the Oval Office than with Biden moving into it, and events have proven that assessment correct.

Does only Trump get to benefit from that separation of personality and effectiveness?  Is he the only person for whom we should set aside our personal dislike, and support him because he's best for the country?  I don't see anything in your short post @DefiantMassRINO that calls out a single reason to oppose Cruz on policy or even political issues.  All I see is a personal attack based on distortions of traits and events that are not themselves even blame-worthy - his ethnicity, where he was born, where he was educated, and where he sent his family on a vacation.

Do you seriously suggest that these are valid reasons to oppose a principled, articulate, uncompromising Conservative?  Because if they are, I've got a much longer list of personal dislikes I can use to oppose a dumb-ass narcissist lunatic whose toxic, self-centered leadership style basically destroyed the people closest to him.

Even the meme you've posted distorts what has actually taken place.  Cruz has not supported Trump, he has supported policies he believes are best for the country and his belief in legitimate, credible elections.  Cruz has done the very thing Trump's supporters have insisted we all do - set aside what we think of Trump personally and do what is best for the country.  And Cruz is attacked even for that.

I continue to be impressed at how Trump's most energetic and loyal supporters immediately align completely with democrats to destroy an uncompromising, principled Conservative.

[catfish1957]

One of the strongest arguments I've heard for Trump is that those of us who dislike him personally should distinguish that personal sense from our assessment of what is best for the country.  I've thought about that carefully, and I decided that was a valid and persuasive argument, and it's one of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2020.  Regardless of my low opinion of Trump as a man, I thought the country would be better off with him staying in the Oval Office than with Biden moving into it, and events have proven that assessment correct.

Does only Trump get to benefit from that separation of personality and effectiveness?  Is he the only person for whom we should set aside our personal dislike, and support him because he's best for the country?  I don't see anything in your short post @DefiantMassRINO that calls out a single reason to oppose Cruz on policy or even political issues.  All I see is a personal attack based on distortions of traits and events that are not themselves even blame-worthy - his ethnicity, where he was born, where he was educated, and where he sent his family on a vacation.

Do you seriously suggest that these are valid reasons to oppose a principled, articulate, uncompromising Conservative?  Because if they are, I've got a much longer list of personal dislikes I can use to oppose a dumb-ass narcissist lunatic whose toxic, self-centered leadership style basically destroyed the people closest to him.

Even the meme you've posted distorts what has actually taken place.  Cruz has not supported Trump, he has supported policies he believes are best for the country and his belief in legitimate, credible elections.  Cruz has done the very thing Trump's supporters have insisted we all do - set aside what we think of Trump personally and do what is best for the country.  And Cruz is attacked even for that.

I continue to be impressed at how Trump's most energetic and loyal supporters immediately align completely with democrats to destroy an uncompromising, principled Conservative.

Outstanding Posting as usual Sam.  Agree 100%

Trump did more damage to Cruz with his cronies Stone and Pecker than can ever be realized.  It impacted his 2018 re-election, and has likely ruined any chance of ever being POTUS.  Trump's false memes has almost destroyed him.

[sneakypete]

Yep...  instead overdosing on MAGA Pills, she needs to apologize at this "conservative" site, for lying and slandering maybe the most "conservative" lawmaker in DC.  She might be a Forrest Gump prototype brand of humor, but after the past few weeks, I am in not in the mood for Legal American's bullshit.

@catfish1957

Even a Cruz fan like you has to admit that is praising with faint damns.

Vladimir Lenin could almost pass as a conservative in DC these days. I had no idea it was even possible for America to become THIS screwed up 20 years ago. Not even if they tried,yet,HERE we ARE!

[sneakypete]

Isn't a primary tenet of TBR (at least since 2016) that a politician is fair game, a Briefer is not?

Asking for a friend.

@Right_in_Virginia

I think we share a friend. Strikingly handsome fellow all the girls lust after?

[Idiot]

Cruz is a great senator from our state.  He's just not electable as President...no way.  His personality just tends to grate on people.

[sneakypete]

Is America ready to elect a Canadian-Cuban, Princeton-educated, Harvard law graduate, part-time resident of Cancun to the White House?

 

@DefiantMassRINO

Well,when you consider America has elected FDR,Jimmah Cartur,Bubba Clinton,TWO Bush traitors,Obomber,and now a senile old crook who was a senile old crook a decade before he was elected,I would say that the 'murika of today would vote for a steaming turd pile if it had the "right" handlers.

BTW,this is NO reflection on Cruz,who I would never vote for,but who I also think has zero intention of actually running for President. Face it,if he was interested in being President,he would have ran a long time before this.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957

Even a Cruz fan like you has to admit that is praising with faint damns.

Vladimir Lenin could almost pass as a conservative in DC these days. I had no idea it was even possible for America to become THIS screwed up 20 years ago. Not even if they tried,yet,HERE we ARE!

The country's shift left politically has happened so stealthly, it almost wasn't noticable. 
We now have the entitlement class in charge. 

Times like these remind me of my favorite politcal quote of the past 50 years....

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”


― Margaret Thatcher

[Bigun]

One of the strongest arguments I've heard for Trump is that those of us who dislike him personally should distinguish that personal sense from our assessment of what is best for the country.  I've thought about that carefully, and I decided that was a valid and persuasive argument, and it's one of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2020.  Regardless of my low opinion of Trump as a man, I thought the country would be better off with him staying in the Oval Office than with Biden moving into it, and events have proven that assessment correct.

Does only Trump get to benefit from that separation of personality and effectiveness?  Is he the only person for whom we should set aside our personal dislike, and support him because he's best for the country?  I don't see anything in your short post @DefiantMassRINO that calls out a single reason to oppose Cruz on policy or even political issues.  All I see is a personal attack based on distortions of traits and events that are not themselves even blame-worthy - his ethnicity, where he was born, where he was educated, and where he sent his family on a vacation.

Do you seriously suggest that these are valid reasons to oppose a principled, articulate, uncompromising Conservative?  Because if they are, I've got a much longer list of personal dislikes I can use to oppose a dumb-ass narcissist lunatic whose toxic, self-centered leadership style basically destroyed the people closest to him.

Even the meme you've posted distorts what has actually taken place.  Cruz has not supported Trump, he has supported policies he believes are best for the country and his belief in legitimate, credible elections.  Cruz has done the very thing Trump's supporters have insisted we all do - set aside what we think of Trump personally and do what is best for the country.  And Cruz is attacked even for that.

I continue to be impressed at how Trump's most energetic and loyal supporters immediately align completely with democrats to destroy an uncompromising, principled Conservative.

I agree with most of that @HoustonSam

I fully intend to vote in our Republican primary next year and will vote for the most conservative candidate available in every race.  I will do the same in the general election without regard to any party affiliations.

In 2024, if Trump runs, he will have my vote. He has more than earned it.  I had strong reservations about him in 2016 and did not vote for him in either the primary or the general election (Knowing he was going to carry my state regardless). I'm fairly sure I would have swallowed the bile and voted for him in the general if it had been a close call here.  I voted for him in the primary and the general in 2020 because his performance in office demanded it

I love Ted Cruz but refuse to support him for president under any circumstance because I consider him to be disqualified by the Constitution for that office. I will support him to remain in the senate for as long as he likes so long as he continues to perform as he has up to now there.  I will not vote for John Cornyn period.

[catfish1957]

Cruz is a great senator from our state.  He's just not electable as President...no way.  His personality just tends to grate on people.

Not to mention the damage the Stone/Pecker Slime machine did to him during the '16 primaries.  Personally, I've given up on Cruz, and am trending more toward DeSantis, Cotton, or Hawley in '24.

[sneakypete]

The country's shift left politically has happened so stealthly, it almost wasn't noticable. 
We now have the entitlement class in charge. 

Times like these remind me of my favorite politcal quote of the past 50 years....

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”


― Margaret Thatcher

@catfish1957

Thatcher is one of the greatest heroes England has ever been lucky enough to have received. As one British politician sagely noted,"It's a good thing England finally has a real man in charge!"

Love,love,LOVE Lady Thatcher! One of my idols.

[sneakypete]

I agree with most of that @HoustonSam

I fully intend to vote in our Republican primary next year and will vote for the most conservative candidate available in every race.  I will do the same in the general election without regard to any party affiliations.

In 2024, if Trump runs, he will have my vote. He has more than earned it.  I had strong reservations about him in 2016 and did not vote for him in either the primary or the general election (Knowing he was going to carry my state regardless). I'm fairly sure I would have swallowed the bile and voted for him in the general if it had been a close call here.  I voted for him in the primary and the general in 2020 because his performance in office demanded it

I love Ted Cruz but refuse to support him for president under any circumstance because I consider him to be disqualified by the Constitution for that office. I will support him to remain in the senate for as long as he likes so long as he continues to perform as he has up to now there.  I will not vote for John Cornyn period.

@Bigun

I personally dislike Trump to the point if his limo broke down outside my house and it was 110 degrees,I would let him sit on my porch and bring him a glass of water,but I would NOT allow him inside. I am as serious as a heart attack about that.

Having said that,if he runs for President in 2024,I am willing to dodge gunfire,and if I had any guns,return the gunfire,for an opportunity to vote for him.

Presidential elections are NOT about "ME". They are about the survival of America as free nation full of free people.

[skeeter]

@Bigun

I personally dislike Trump to the point if his limo broke down outside my house and it was 110 degrees,I would let him sit on my porch and bring him a glass of water,but I would NOT allow him inside. I am as serious as a heart attack about that.

Having said that,if he runs for President in 2024,I am willing to dodge gunfire,and if I had any guns,return the gunfire,for an opportunity to vote for him.

Presidential elections are NOT about "ME". They are about the survival of America as free nation full of free people.

Agree. I never could understand those who think their personal emotional reaction supersedes what is clearly in the national interests.

[catfish1957]

@Bigun

I personally dislike Trump to the point if his limo broke down outside my house and it was 110 degrees,I would let him sit on my porch and bring him a glass of water,but I would NOT allow him inside. I am as serious as a heart attack about that.

Having said that,if he runs for President in 2024,I am willing to dodge gunfire,and if I had any guns,return the gunfire,for an opportunity to vote for him.

Presidential elections are NOT about "ME". They are about the survival of America as free nation full of free people.

You nailed it.  I supported Trump 100% in 2020.  Just because he has diarrhea of the mouth should preclude all the good things he did while he was in office.  If he gets the nomination 2024, I will vote for him.  But in 2021, and three years left to decide, I'm leaning for new blood and a best clone we can find.  At this exact moment, the 3 I mentioned above seem to best foot the bill.

I am especially getting more fond of Hawley as a choice, as he seems to right now almost be a one man campaign to do his best to destroy Big Tech.  Too many others in the GOP are on the take with the Tech Giants.

[sneakypete]

Not to mention the damage the Stone/Pecker Slime machine did to him during the '16 primaries.  Personally, I've given up on Cruz, and am trending more toward DeSantis, Cotton, or Hawley in '24.

@catfish1957

I personally think,with absolutely zero hard evidence to back me up,that he is perfectly happy being a US Senator for the rest of his life,if he can swing it.

He MIGHT be flattered enough to take a SC Justice seat if offered,but I'm not even sure about that. I think he would be happy to just retire and live in Texas full-time.

Once again,I have absolutely zero evidence any of this is factual. It is just what I think from having observed him over the years.

[Bigun]

@Bigun

I personally dislike Trump to the point if his limo broke down outside my house and it was 110 degrees,I would let him sit on my porch and bring him a glass of water,but I would NOT allow him inside. I am as serious as a heart attack about that.

Having said that,if he runs for President in 2024,I am willing to dodge gunfire,and if I had any guns,return the gunfire,for an opportunity to vote for him.

Presidential elections are NOT about "ME". They are about the survival of America as free nation full of free people.

It appears that you and I are in complete agreement here @sneakypete