House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

Still waiting for you to show me where I said I hadn't read anything.  You've shown me where I admitted I had not read *everything*.

Already quoted you.

[Fishrrman]

tx wrote:
"Pot was the camel's nose under the tent flap up there."

Of course.
As it was (and is) everywhere.

What was the name of that old movie?
Reefer sumthin' or other...?

It made its point then.
Nuthin's changed.

[Elderberry]

   Another slippery slope folks, and I partake.

Have you slid down that slope or do you maintain a semi-solid footing?

[txradioguy]

tx wrote:
"Pot was the camel's nose under the tent flap up there."

Of course.
As it was (and is) everywhere.

What was the name of that old movie?
Reefer sumthin' or other...?

It made its point then.
Nuthin's changed.

Reefer Madness.  You're right...nothing has changed...it's only gotten worse.

[Elderberry]

tx wrote:
"Pot was the camel's nose under the tent flap up there."

Of course.
As it was (and is) everywhere.

What was the name of that old movie?
Reefer sumthin' or other...?

It made its point then.
Nuthin's changed.

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[Elderberry]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/business/cannabis-more-act-house-vote/index.html

For now, the House is likely to be the last stop on the line for the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act of 2019 (MORE Act), which would effectively legalize cannabis by removing marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act and creating a shared federal-state control of cannabis programs -- although it does not force states to legalize. The bill also would reduce barriers to research, solve current banking and tax woes, expunge some cannabis offenses and further diversify efforts in the industry.
Although public sentiment for cannabis legalization has grown, not all in Congress -- notably Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell -- feel the same.

"I would give it less than a snowball's chance of passage in the Senate," said drug policy expert John Hudak, the deputy director of the Center for Effective Public Management at the Brookings Institution think tank.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/business/recreational-weed-whats-next/index.html

In a matter of hours on election night, recreational cannabis measures got the go-ahead in four more states: Arizona, Montana, New Jersey and South Dakota.

That doesn't mean that people in those locations can legally buy weed for non-medical use just yet.

Although the moves at the ballot box further bolster the $19 billion US cannabis industry, the passages are early steps in an often complex and lengthy process.

History shows that it could take months or, in some cases, years for the first regulated sales to take place. It takes time to develop regulatory programs; establish testing, tracking and safety protocols; build supply chains; license operators; and, of course, grow the plants. And in two states, legal challenges have been filed against the ballot initiatives, meaning legalization efforts there could be potentially overturned.

[corbe]

Have you slid down that slope or do you maintain a semi-solid footing?

   I think I maintain pretty well @Elderberry  My glass is always more full than empty.

[Elderberry]

   I think I maintain pretty well @Elderberry  My glass is always more full than empty.

So that slope ain't all that slippery. I've kept on an even keel mostly myself.

[Knox27]

If these high end briefers can smoke, we should all be allowed to without the threat of being locked up

[txradioguy]

If these high end briefers can smoke, we should all be allowed to without the threat of being locked up

Wrong

[DB]

   I think I maintain pretty well @Elderberry  My glass is always more full than empty.

Just get a smaller glass. An engineering solution...

[corbe]

   Here's the slippery slope I was talking about @Elderberry

Oregon.

Here are the limits.

The measure makes it a noncriminal violation similar to a traffic ticket to possess the following:

Less than 1 gram of heroin
Less than 1 gram, or less than 5 pills, of MDMA
Less than 2 grams of methamphetamine
Less than 40 units of LSD
Less than 12 grams of psilocybin
Less than 40 units of methadone
Less than 40 pills of oxycodone
Less than 2 grams of cocaine

The measure reduces from a felony to a misdemeanor simple possession of substances containing:

1 to 3 grams of heroin
1 to 4 grams of MDMA
2 to 8 grams of methamphetamine
2 to 8 grams of cocaine

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Nancy coordinated this with Coors?

Molson Coors just launched its first CBD drinks in the US
Molson Coors (TAP) has not only set its sights on exploiting the surging hard seltzer market, but is now making a push into CBD beverages in Canada and the U.S.

“In the U.S. we have brought CBD products to Colorado. We launched them this week. So it’s a little too soon to tell how they are going to do. But, we are using the same brand names as we are using in Canada, the product tastes really good,” Molson Coors CEO Gavin Hattersley told Yahoo Finance Live.

Molson Coors signed a joint venture deal some two years ago with cannabis producer Hexo. Since then, the duo has launched CBD beverages in Canada under the Truss brand. The debut of CBD products this week reflects an expanded deal between the two companies inked in April.

https://money.yahoo.com/molson-coors-just-launched-its-first-cbd-drinks-in-the-us-184008978.html

[truth_seeker]

I hold mixed feelings over weed.

The gateway aspect is a negative.

[Elderberry]

   Here's the slippery slope I was talking about @Elderberry

Oregon.

Here are the limits.

The measure makes it a noncriminal violation similar to a traffic ticket to possess the following:

Less than 1 gram of heroin
Less than 1 gram, or less than 5 pills, of MDMA
Less than 2 grams of methamphetamine
Less than 40 units of LSD
Less than 12 grams of psilocybin
Less than 40 units of methadone
Less than 40 pills of oxycodone
Less than 2 grams of cocaine

The measure reduces from a felony to a misdemeanor simple possession of substances containing:

1 to 3 grams of heroin
1 to 4 grams of MDMA
2 to 8 grams of methamphetamine
2 to 8 grams of cocaine

What in the world is a Unit of LSD?  Not that I've dropped any since HS. Though I did take my SAT test crashing on acid. I don't know if it helped or hurt my score. My score did get me into Mensa though. I know here people take Mensans in low regard.

[Elderberry]

Alcohol as a gateway drug: a study of US 12th graders

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22712674/

Abstract

Background: The Gateway Drug Theory suggests that licit drugs, such as tobacco and alcohol, serve as a "gateway" toward the use of other, illicit drugs. However, there remains some discrepancy regarding which drug-alcohol, tobacco, or even marijuana-serves as the initial "gateway" drug subsequently leading to the use of illicit drugs such as cocaine and heroin. The purpose of this investigation was to determine which drug (alcohol, tobacco, or marijuana) was the actual "gateway" drug leading to additional substance use among a nationally representative sample of high school seniors.

Methods: This investigation conducted a secondary analysis of the 2008 Monitoring the Future 12th-grade data. Initiation into alcohol, tobacco, and other drug use was analyzed using a Guttman scale. Coefficients of reliability and scalability were calculated to evaluate scale fit. Subsequent cross tabulations and chi-square test for independence were conducted to better understand the relationship between the identified gateway drug and other substances' use.

Results: Results from the Guttman scale indicated that alcohol represented the "gateway" drug, leading to the use of tobacco, marijuana, and other illicit substances. Moreover, students who used alcohol exhibited a significantly greater likelihood of using both licit and illicit drugs.

Conclusion: The findings from this investigation support that alcohol should receive primary attention in school-based substance abuse prevention programming, as the use of other substances could be impacted by delaying or preventing alcohol use. Therefore, it seems prudent for school and public health officials to focus prevention efforts, policies, and monies, on addressing adolescent alcohol use.

[Knox27]

Alcohol as a gateway drug: a study of US 12th graders

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22712674/

Ban it!

Are you acquainted with the site that gives you access to every (mostly) academic article ever published?  There are people who believe you should not have to pay to rent or buy articles, that all information should be freely available.

[catfish1957]

I understand govt intrusion when it tells me I cant smoke a plant.  Is that conservative?

Please show me where I said I hadn't read anything.

Based on you logic, its okay to smoke Nightshade, Oleander, and Castor Beans since they are plants too right?

You take dumbassery to new heights.

[Knox27]

Based on you logic, its okay to smoke Nightshade, Oleander, and Castor Beans since they are plants too right?

You take dumbassery to new heights.

I'm the dumbass but you equate the weed with deadly poison...

Based on your logic, alcohol and cigarettes should be banned.

So who is the dumbass here?

Also just to pass you off, who's to say one can't kill themselves if they so desire? 

Which, to be clear, cant happen with weed

[roamer_1]

I understand govt intrusion when it tells me I cant smoke a plant.  Is that conservative?

No, that's anarchist. A Conservative would recognize the sovereignty of the various states, and control of substances within their jurisdiction is certainly in their wheelhouse.

A conservative might also recognize federal authority across state lines, and wrt the national border.

[bigheadfred]

I'm the dumbass but you equate the weed with deadly poison...

Based on your logic, alcohol and cigarettes should be banned.

So who is the dumbass here?

Also just to pass you off, who's to say one can't kill themselves if they so desire? 

Which, to be clear, cant happen with weed

HI NOX! I am bigheadfred, can I give them some of my BS, @roamer_1?

[roamer_1]

I'm the dumbass but you equate the weed with deadly poison...

Based on your logic, alcohol and cigarettes should be banned.

Nonsense. ALL medicines are strictly controlled. Even those you can buy across the counter. And likewise many/most poisons... What you seem to want is to carve out a special exception.

So who is the dumbass here?

 

Also just to pass you off, who's to say one can't kill themselves if they so desire? 

Because murder is murder. Even if you want to murder yourself. Life has priceless value. When you remove that from statutory law, you will not be happy with the results.

[roamer_1]

HI NOX! I am bigeheadfred, can I give them some of my BS, @roamer_1?

Dish it out, brother... Use the big shovel. 

[truth_seeker]

26+ years clean and sober,
I am  the product of a "family intervention.

[roamer_1]

26+ years clean and sober,
I am  the product of a "family intervention.

There but for the grace of God go I.