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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2020, 02:17:50 pm »
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Why should Marijuana continue to be prohibited at the Federal level when state after state is legalizing Marijuana?

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2020, 02:20:38 pm »
Apropos of nothing Conservatism is an infinite universe. Liberalism is Schrodinger's box.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2020, 02:20:57 pm »
I am compelled to side with @Jazzhead and @Knox27 here.  Sorry about that.

Since Covid arrived, Americans are driving 15 to 20 mph higher than the speed limits WITHOUT an increase in wrecks and deaths.

And guess what?  People have been driving around stoned on marijuana, so stop this pathetic assertion that everybody needs to be protected and the only way is to keep it illegal.

As others have said.  You get stopped by the police and found to be physically impaired under the influence...issue the ticket and have the car towed.

BTW...if anything, people driving cars high on grass are probably driving at or under the speed limit.  It's NOTHING like driving drunk.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2020, 02:26:52 pm »
Cannabis Cultivation Laws: State-by-State Marijuana Growing Guide

https://potguide.com/blog/article/cannabis-cultivation-laws-state-by-state/

Why should Marijuana continue to be prohibited at the Federal level when state after state is legalizing Marijuana?

Admittedly, its a runaway train, and I'll wager full legalization will happen within 10-15 years.  Still doesn't mean I think it is a good idea or should happen.   OTOH, I have a friend in a legal state, who swears by what he calls a 15 mg edible when he has some insomnia.  Who knows there may be some thereputic value to the elderly and infirmed.  But, I'd sure make sure a script was required to use it.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2020, 02:58:54 pm »
Admittedly, its a runaway train, and I'll wager full legalization will happen within 10-15 years.  Still doesn't mean I think it is a good idea or should happen.   OTOH, I have a friend in a legal state, who swears by what he calls a 15 mg edible when he has some insomnia.  Who knows there may be some thereputic value to the elderly and infirmed.  But, I'd sure make sure a script was required to use it.

I just can't imagine how a script would be worded, identifying the seed strain, cultivation, harvesting, preparation and dosage of marijuana that you are growing yourself.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #80 on: December 05, 2020, 04:45:15 pm »
I just can't imagine how a script would be worded, identifying the seed strain, cultivation, harvesting, preparation and dosage of marijuana that you are growing yourself.

Alas, more evidence why it shouldn't happen in the first place.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #81 on: December 05, 2020, 04:55:05 pm »
Alas, more evidence why it shouldn't happen in the first place.

But its already sweeping across the nation, state by state.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #82 on: December 05, 2020, 06:11:29 pm »
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I'm the dumbass but you equate the weed with deadly poison...

Yes you are the dumb ass. 

Smoking wet...heard of that?  How much poison do you think is in formaldehyde or phencyclidine?

How safe is weed laced with PCP or hash?
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #83 on: December 05, 2020, 06:12:55 pm »
I just can't imagine how a script would be worded, identifying the seed strain, cultivation, harvesting, preparation and dosage of marijuana that you are growing yourself.

I have a script for high blood pressure spikes that says use as needed.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #84 on: December 05, 2020, 06:17:00 pm »
Yes you are the dumb ass. 

Smoking wet...heard of that?  How much poison do you think is in formaldehyde or phencyclidine?

How safe is weed laced with PCP or hash?

Its not, which is why it would be great to buy it from a business and not a guy on a street corner

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #85 on: December 05, 2020, 06:26:12 pm »
Its not, which is why it would be great to buy it from a business and not a guy on a street corner

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #86 on: December 05, 2020, 06:59:16 pm »
Its not, which is why it would be great to buy it from a business and not a guy on a street corner

Why buy it at all? Two or three plants grown under gro-lights is all one needs.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2020, 07:12:36 pm »
Why buy it at all? Two or three plants grown under gro-lights is all one needs.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #88 on: December 05, 2020, 07:14:05 pm »
Why buy it at all? Two or three plants grown under gro-lights is all one needs.

The problem is and always has been the gov getting their cut.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2020, 09:31:13 pm »
Why buy it at all? Two or three plants grown under gro-lights is all one needs.

@Elderberry  @catfish1957  @Jazzhead   @Knox27

I have a guy I'm proud to call a good friend...used to be young rebellious kid who hung around with bikers before he found the love of his life.

Anyway, he was my source for homegrown weed.  Excellent strain for only $125. per ounce.  They owned some property which abutted Federal parkland where they grew it. I 'laughed' at the notion for those paying $300-400 per ounce.

Once Maryland decided to become a legal weed State...despite their price for comparable weed being $65. per EIGHTH ($520. per ounce), it has become impossible for me to score the homegrown/local.

All the people are so enamored over the dozens of high quality strains at the dispensaries that nobody is interested in cultivating it.

...and these are some CHEAP-ASS, scrooges who still have the 'First Communion money'.

Here I figured that 'The State' would enhance their hobby.  Instead, it put them out of business.

I warned them that getting 'The Card' which enabled them may put them on a list that may put their guns at risk...they couldn't care less.

Now that friend keeps bugging me to get "The Card", so that he can give me his grocery list so I can get a 25% discount on my initial visit to the Dispensary.

Oh...and I'm eligible for the 15% "Senior Citizen" discount too!

Still haven't gotten my card.  In fact, it's been months now since I've smoked it.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2020, 09:39:36 pm »
That's way out of my league. I haven't been a user in a long long time. Before I grew only for my own consumption, I was paying around $80 an lb.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2020, 10:44:15 pm »

BTW...if anything, people driving cars high on grass are probably driving at or under the speed limit.  It's NOTHING like driving drunk.

Texting and Pot.... 50mph hit to side of wife's cadi with two children inside. Kids did fine (car seats worked) with only some bruises, wife was hurt for months. December 24th 2011 in the hospital for 2-3 days (I don't remember exactly how many days).



Harmless my butt... was hit in a 45mph area turning (blinker on), and probable going about that speed. Gets hit in the side and pushed into traffic the other way and hit again. It could of killed and left me with 4 boys to raise by myself.

Wife is still ticked cause all her Tupperware that was in the trunk got stolen either at the scene or where they towed the car.

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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2020, 10:53:05 pm »
I am compelled to side with @Jazzhead and @Knox27 here.  Sorry about that.

Since Covid arrived, Americans are driving 15 to 20 mph higher than the speed limits WITHOUT an increase in wrecks and deaths.

And guess what?  People have been driving around stoned on marijuana, so stop this pathetic assertion that everybody needs to be protected and the only way is to keep it illegal.

As others have said.  You get stopped by the police and found to be physically impaired under the influence...issue the ticket and have the car towed.

BTW...if anything, people driving cars high on grass are probably driving at or under the speed limit.  It's NOTHING like driving drunk.
Yep, the assh*le who is doing 15 under and gets the traffic snarl going that leads to a pileup, likely not caught up in it--the difference from drunks.

You're close enough to I-95 and the "Suicide Circle" (Capital Beltway--495) to know that traffic deaths there are a near daily thing (only helo transport to trauma units has cut that--and the number of federal workers "working form home".)

A lot of people aren't going to work, some won't be working there again, and even the kid run over by a truck died of COVID.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2020, 10:55:10 pm »
Texting and Pot.... 50mph hit to side of wife's cadi with two children inside. Kids did fine (car seats worked) with only some bruises, wife was hurt for months. December 24th 2011 in the hospital for 2-3 days (I don't remember exactly how many days).



Harmless my butt... was hit in a 45mph area turning (blinker on), and probable going about that speed. Gets hit in the side and pushed into traffic the other way and hit again. It could of killed and left me with 4 boys to raise by myself.

Wife is still ticked cause all her Tupperware that was in the trunk got stolen either at the scene or where they towed the car.

Geez... That's terrible. Very glad your family is okay, today.

That said, your very first words..."texting and pot..."

That's virtually the same as dying of a gunshot wound while testing positive for Covid.

PS:  Was the Tupperware filled with chocolate chip cookies?   :pondering: 
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2020, 10:59:12 pm »
That's way out of my league. I haven't been a user in a long long time. Before I grew only for my own consumption, I was paying around $80 an lb.
Yeah, I recall when a 'nickel bag' was a full ounce. The really, really, expensive stuff was $20, and those who bought such swore if it wasn't good enough to make them forget any idea of kicking the seller's ass, the seller would be in trouble.

But the run of the mill weed in those days smelled different and hit a person differently. People goofed off laughing for hours on it. Today's (and back then, the high priced stuff at $20/oz) "Skunk weed" (if not doped with skunk urine) was 'two hit sh*t' that pretty much that had people nodding (that didn't seem like my idea of fun).

I haven't touched any of it since long before I quit drinking, and that's been over 30 years.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2020, 11:05:06 pm »
Geez... That's terrible. Very glad your family is okay, today.

That said, your very first words..."texting and pot..."

That's virtually the same as dying of a gunshot wound while testing positive for Covid.

Not virtually the same, a drug that lowers response time factors heavy in the equation.
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« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2020, 11:10:55 pm »
Not virtually the same, a drug that lowers response time factors heavy in the equation.
and reduces situational awareness overall (focus on some things, ignore others, not necessarily what needs to be focused on at the time).
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2020, 11:22:09 pm »
   i quit smoking pot for 40 years, USAF and random drug testing and all with my employers, started smoking again about 10 years ago and didn't realized how much I missed it.  I don't Ever drive while drinking or stoned.
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Re: House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
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House passes sweeping reform bill to decriminalize marijuana
By Alex Gangitano - 12/04/20 01:37 PM EST

The House on Friday passed sweeping legislation that would decriminalize marijuana at the federal level, the first time either chamber of Congress has voted to decriminalize cannabis.

The measure, the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment & Expungement Act, passed on a largely party-line vote of 228 to 164.

Six Democrats voted against the legislation and five Republicans voted for it. The bill faces an uphill battle in the GOP-controlled Senate.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/528787-house-passes-sweeping-reform-bill-to-decriminalize-marijuana

I'm late to this thread, so there's upwards of 100 replies....

I think this is a necessary step, not because I approve of Marijuana, but because there are a lot of states that have legalized weed.  The Federal law and the laws of the "several states" are in conflict, resulting in people being prosecuted and imprisoned despite State laws to the contrary.

It's a States Rights issue, subject to the 10th Amendment.
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