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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2019, 03:42:51 pm »
I'm confused.  I don't know what to think.  Both Trump and the Fake News say it's good news that al-Baghdadi is dead.  I don't know how the fake news will spin this into an impeachable charge against Trump.  It's almost like the Fake News is siding with America.

I'm sure Schiffty will be investigating this very soon, ****drummer .
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What the Trump-haters don't want to admit is.... there are a lot of (most of) the intel agency employees are not "deep staters"... and do not hate Trump like they do.   They are good and decent men and women  that just do their jobs to protect America, politics and agenda be damned...

as it should be with everyone in America.
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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2019, 04:12:00 pm »
Trump stated that he didn't warn the Congress leaders, because DC cannot be trusted.

The intitial story went to Newsweek, not CNN or Fox.

The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.

Ya think Trump will make dems, media and #nevertrump scum, look badly with this?

It was just noted not one word from democrat "leadership" Certain #nevertrump scum, "confused." (waiting on dems and media, for how to spinthis.

hen do they start talking about skipping the election, because Trump might win?

Pelosi bitching they notified the Russians, before notifying the House.

Is Utah's Warrior, Pierre Romney scheduled this morning, for the McCain Sunday shows?

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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2019, 04:18:50 pm »
Lol!   Trump's boogie face sure is funny.   As are most of the other gifs at that (obviously) anti-Trump gif site.   But .... there's nothing funny about the hate-face most of the Trump-haters display.   And I find it odd that such hate is displayed by a supposedly pro-American person after the death of a known anti-American terrorist.   Odd, that.  About as odd as the sick-face Obama displayed upon the death of Bin Laden.  He looked like somebody had killed his own daddy.   Hmmm....
It remains my belief that Obama was only informed of the Bin Laden raid after it was past the go/no-go point, if not simply as an afterthought, all situation room drama images aside. Obama had pulled the plug on ops based on actionable intel a couple of times already, and the brass finally got a generalized okay to go after OBL if they could. I think they went for it and informed him afterwards. All he could do at that point was take credit publicly....
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What the Trump-haters don't want to admit is.... there are a lot of (most of) the intel agency employees are not "deep staters"... and do not hate Trump like they do.   They are good and decent men and women  that just do their jobs to protect America, politics and agenda be damned...

as it should be with everyone in America.
Most of the agency deep-staters are multi-administration career folks who have been at it since the Clinton Administration and before, as well as their hand picked minions. It may be hard to remove folks from most of the rank and file jobs, but people get gaslighted all the time, or transferred into corners where they do nothing of consequence. One director who is not on board and the whole mission goes south, a minion or group who are not with the program can scuttle the mission with bad intel as well, and then there are the leakers, partisan and not. A few bad apples and the whole barrel is done.

The trick is ferreting those out without losing people who are loyal Americans, first, last, and always, who have been set up by the very people we want out.
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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2019, 04:27:09 pm »
It remains my belief that Obama was only informed of the Bin Laden raid after it was past the go/no-go point, if not simply as an afterthought, all situation room drama images aside. Obama had pulled the plug on ops based on actionable intel a couple of times already, and the brass finally got a generalized okay to go after OBL if they could. I think they went for it and informed him afterwards. All he could do at that point was take credit publicly....

Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards.  He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.
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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2019, 04:29:34 pm »
FTA

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The terrorists, who are known to be voracious watchers of CNN and other mainstream news, decided that Trump was a wimp, a pacifist, a non-fighter for pulling U.S. troops out; Trump wouldn't fight them, they thought, leaving them with a field day. The coast was clear and it didn't take long before they popped out of their holes.

Boom. That was a mistake.

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Most of the agency deep-staters are multi-administration career folks who have been at it since the Clinton Administration and before, as well as their hand picked minions. It may be hard to remove folks from most of the rank and file jobs, but people get gaslighted all the time, or transferred into corners where they do nothing of consequence. One director who is not on board and the whole mission goes south, a minion or group who are not with the program can scuttle the mission with bad intel as well, and then there are the leakers, partisan and not. A few bad apples and the whole barrel is done.

The trick is ferreting those out without losing people who are loyal Americans, first, last, and always, who have been set up by the very people we want out.

Indeed.   A trick that has proven to be harder than it should be.   :shrug:
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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2019, 04:30:20 pm »
Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards.  He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.
A lot of flag rank brass were retired or transferred in the years afterward.
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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2019, 04:32:44 pm »
The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.

My favorite part of the announcement was when Trump said "Our canine, I call it a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented dog, was injured and brought back."  It sounded much more authentic than the speech Trump misread off the teleprompter, with all those big words he mispronounced.  I was reminded that I owned a canine and I too called it a "dog."  It seems the President and I share much in common.   wink777


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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2019, 04:36:43 pm »
Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards.  He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.

Obastard was wearing a polo shirt in that picture, because he had just wandered in after golf.  He threw on a suit coat for the picture.  Heck, he's not even sitting at the end of the table!  Although he took the credit, as if he had parachuted into Paki and killed bin Laden with his own puny hands, he wasn't even remotely "in charge."

He had to be tricked into giving permission for the raid.  He could never bring himself to having a fellow Muzzie killed.
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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2019, 04:42:21 pm »
Trump stated that he didn't warn the Congress leaders, because DC cannot be trusted.

The intitial story went to Newsweek, not CNN or Fox.

The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.

Ya think Trump will make dems, media and #nevertrump scum, look badly with this?

It was just noted not one word from democrat "leadership" Certain #nevertrump scum, "confused." (waiting on dems and media, for how to spinthis.

hen do they start talking about skipping the election, because Trump might win?

Pelosi bitching they notified the Russians, before notifying the House.

Is Utah's Warrior, Pierre Romney scheduled this morning, for the McCain Sunday shows?

Two Americans lightly wounded.

I am so stealing that... :beer:

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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2019, 04:45:21 pm »
Lol!   Trump's boogie face sure is funny.   As are most of the other gifs at that (obviously) anti-Trump gif site.

https://giphy.com/ ??? Do you reflect on you own bias ever?

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  But .... there's nothing funny about the hate-face most of the Trump-haters display.   And I find it odd that such hate is displayed by a supposedly pro-American person after the death of a known anti-American terrorist.

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about.  Is it a Q thing? :shrug:

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Odd, that.  About as odd as the sick-face Obama displayed upon the death of Bin Laden.  He looked like somebody had killed his own daddy.   Hmmm....

I'm not seeing that either.


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Funny how.... instead of celebrating the death of a known terrorist leader....

the left is, per usual, using this occasion, like all other occasions, merely to continue bashing Trump.

That is what I call disgusting and despicable.   No patriotism.  No feelings of relief for Americans that might have been killed by orchestrated attacks of Bagdadi.   Nothing but hatred spewed.

I've been watching CNN all morning and they are portraying the death of Bagdaddy as a great thing...Can you please let me know where I can find the bash Trump because Bagdaddy is dead media? I'd prefer to watch that.

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Re: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2019, 05:06:20 pm »
I am so stealing that... :beer:
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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2019, 05:11:01 pm »
It's an effin' big deal, if it pans out they got him!

@Cyber Liberty

If they ever send Delta Force after you,you are history. US Army Special Projects units are as good as it gets. They started operating in VN and adjacent areas in the early 60's and developed it into a branch instead of just a side job. Delta Force is the name they took from the old "Operation Delta" that was based at Nha Trang,but there were other "Special Operations Units" with code names like "Operation Sigma" and "Operation Omega" that I  know of,and who knows how many I don't know of?

Delta Force was the biggest,best known,and based basically across the street from the 5th SFG headquarters in Nha Trang,and it was former Delta Force operators who were tasked to put together a special anti-terrorism unit,so it should come as no surprise to anyone they picked Delta as the name for the new unit.

They also had what was said to be the nicest NCO club in VN. I used to go there and drink with friends when I was in Nha Trang on standdown. Special Projects got a LOT of their operators from 1st SF Group members TDY to VN from Okinawa,and I had spent a couple of years in the 1st and knew most of them. If you weren't on one of their teams or the gate guards didn't know you personally and know you had a Top Secret clearance and were in SF and ok,you didn't get in regardless of who you were. They had an A6 Browning manned by a Asian "striker" pointed at the gate entrance to enforce this judgement,and I never heard of anyone foolish enough to test this system. BTW,the gates were always guarded by a Delta operational NCO team member,and the striker with the MG was hired and paid by that team.  If the NCO at the gate told him to shoot,you were history.

You can do this in small units were everyone operational knows everyone else that is operational. I suspect Delta is a far larger and more complex force these days,but I am certain that are still the ultimate professional soldiers.

As for the quality of soldier that mans these units,consider that ONLY Special Forces NCO's or officers with combat experience ever become members on teams,and it really doesn't do any good to volunteer because generally speaking they only take people they ask to volunteer. Yeah,you CAN volunteer,but chances are you will be turned down because all the operators there only want to work with people they know they can count on because they know them personally,and have served with them on other teams in the past.

Or at least that is the way it used to be. I have no idea how it operates today because I have no need to know how they operate.  I can tell you I would be shocked beyond belief to learn they had lowered their standards for PC reasons,though. Or for any other reasons,AFATG. These people are all dedicated career soldiers and character really does matter in that rarefied air.

Don't get me wrong,they need clerks,meteorologists,supply clerks,personnel clerks,etc,etc,etc just like any other military organization,but the operators live in their own little world and rarely see any of those people except at briefings.

It was Delta Force that raided the Son Tay Prison Camp in North Vietnam
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I've been watching CNN all morning and they are portraying the death of Bagdaddy as a great thing...Can you please let me know where I can find the bash Trump because Bagdaddy is dead media? I'd prefer to watch that.

Here's one:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380327.msg2082035.html#msg2082035
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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2019, 05:17:03 pm »
Good that they got him, but no victory dance.  They will have another to take his place.  Maybe one that escaped during Turkeys ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.

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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2019, 05:20:39 pm »
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982

Looks like the story went first to Newsweek, hours before Fox and CNN.

He killed himself and two of his lovely wives.

No children were injured.

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Just on CNN. Waiting for DNA confirmation, which indicates we have body parts.
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He killed two of his sons when he detonated his suicide vets inside the tunnel.

Two of his wives did have suicide vest on when the operators entered the room,but I don't THINK they detonated them. Didn't/don't really care enough about them to have paid attention.

The house and surrounding buildings in that compound have been flattened to keep anyone from using them as a shrine to that monster.
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Re: President Trump on Twitter: SOMETHING VERY BIG HAS JUST HAPPENED
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2019, 05:24:03 pm »
I hope in no way, is some credit given to Turkey in this, hailing our Turk friends, intelligence or whatever.

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Why? It is a FACT they had to be notified immediately  before the choppers flew over to keep the Turkish forces from firing on them.

Granted,it was probably more of a case of them being "informed" instead of them "giving permission",but let's give credit where credit is due,and thank them for their cooperation and recognize it.
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