BREAKING! Hillary’s Worst Nightmare Is Coming True On September 28th After Judge Orders It Expedited

[sneakypete]

Ahhhhhhh! News story that Bubbette! is going to prison for her many crimes,number 9,762,and it's REALLY going to happen THIS time!

Bubba didn't even go to prison after being convicted of perjury for the felony of perjury while president,so it just ain't going to happen.

Prominent politicians are more equal than the rest of us in 21st Century America.

[Quix]

@Quix, one question, re: the above quote from your earlier statement, where do you find this?  Titus?  Or, somewhere else?

Isaiah 64:6

The 'filthy rags' in that verse means filthy minstrel rag

[Sanguine]

Isaiah 64:6

The 'filthy rags' in that verse means filthy minstrel rag

Thanks.  It was confusing between mere righteousness and "works of righteousness".

[the_doc]

@Sanguine
@Quix
 

Isaiah 64:6

The 'filthy rags' in that verse means filthy minstrel rag

Quix, your spelling error (or subconscious euphemism?   ) notwithstanding, I would add that the allusion to menses may be an allegory.  Hint: Think about what a menstrual flow proves.

[the_doc]

@Sanguine
@Quix
 Quix, your spelling error (or subconscious euphemism?   ) notwithstanding, I would add that the allusion to menses may be an allegory.  Hint: Think about what a menstrual flow proves.

Further hint:  Notice that menstrual cloths are designed to prevent the show of menstrual blood.

[Quix]

@Sanguine
@Quix
 Quix, your spelling error (or subconscious euphemism?   ) notwithstanding, I would add that the allusion to menses may be an allegory.  Hint: Think about what a menstrual flow proves.

Sloppy lazy spelling. I think God meant exactly what He said. Throughout the Old Testament, such a rag was considered one of the most filthy things conceivable. I believe that verse is meant to be a startling, screaming declaration that our own works of righteousness will NOT count AT ALL in behalf of our Salvation at The Judgment.

The ONLY think that will count is the Blood of Jesus chosen to be our covering.

[Quix]

Thanks.  It was confusing between mere righteousness and "works of righteousness".

You're very welcome.

[the_doc]

Sloppy lazy spelling. I think God meant exactly what He said. Throughout the Old Testament, such a rag was considered one of the most filthy things conceivable. I believe that verse is meant to be a startling, screaming declaration that our own works of righteousness will NOT count AT ALL in behalf of our Salvation at The Judgment.

The ONLY think that will count is the Blood of Jesus chosen to be our covering.

You and I COMPLETELY agree--so please don't be offended at my teasing.  But you still haven't noticed what I have noticed--something that makes the application of the verse even more ominous, in my opinion.  I'll send you a PM on this when I get a chance.

[darroll]

You think Hillary's health was bad...
Just wait.

[Quix]

You and I COMPLETELY agree--so please don't be offended at my teasing.  But you still haven't noticed what I have noticed--something that makes the application of the verse even more ominous, in my opinion.  I'll send you a PM on this when I get a chance.

I think it would be difficult for you to offend me--particularly with your Christian motivations, values & efforts.

Thanks for the  PM. I look forward to it. I miss a lot more than I used to. Part is so much on my plate. Some is just not able to keep as many variables, topics, issues, evidence puzzle pieces in my active sharp memory as I used to. Not willing to think it has anything to do with being almost 72 years old. LOL.

Thankfully, I'm still sharp enough to walk and pray at the same time.

[Quix]

You and I COMPLETELY agree--so please don't be offended at my teasing.  But you still haven't noticed what I have noticed--something that makes the application of the verse even more ominous, in my opinion.  I'll send you a PM on this when I get a chance.

imho, the bit about our own 'works of rignteousness' being worse than worthless is about the pharisee spirit; the idolizing the law; the 'I can lift myself by my own bootstraps' mentality; the 'I'm so brilliant and perfect I can earn my own Salvation' mentality etc. etc. etc. All of which are devilish at the core.

[the_doc]

@libertybele
@DB
@Sanguine
@Quix

Well, DB.  You brought up free will.  A concept that I struggle with.  If God is all knowing (which he is); and he knows which path we will choose, what any outcome will be, what will happen in the future, then exactly how is it that we have free will?

I am by know means challenging you, this is a question that many have tried to explain to me (clergy included) and most come up with a blank or they refer me to biblical passages.

If God knows the outcome and what is going to happen and everything is pre-determined or pre-destined, then how do we have free will and what then is the point of praying?

It goes without saying that we have free will:  we are free to do as we will.  But that very liberty that we call free will has little to do with what most people assume concerning the spiritual ability that we also tend to call free will. 

Liberty and spiritual ability are not the same thing.  Our terminology tends to mislead us.  (Unfortunately, sinners like to mislead themselves.)

It turns out that we natively possess perfect free will in the first sense but we natively possess no free will in the second sense.

Maybe I’ll find time later to explain this.  It’s pretty interesting theology, massively supported by the Scriptures. 

Also, I have quite a bit that I could add to what Dr. Walter Martin was trying to say about the determinism inherent in God’s foreknowledge.  That’s even more interesting.

[Quix]

@libertybele
@DB
@Sanguine
@Quix

It goes without saying that we have free will:  we are free to do as we will.  But that very liberty that we call free will has little to do with what most people assume concerning the spiritual ability that we also tend to call free will. 

Liberty and spiritual ability are not the same thing.  Our terminology tends to mislead us.  (Unfortunately, sinners like to mislead themselves.)

It turns out that we natively possess perfect free will in the first sense but we natively possess no free will in the second sense.

Maybe I’ll find time later to explain this.  It’s pretty interesting theology, massively supported by the Scriptures. 

Also, I have quite a bit that I could add to what Dr. Walter Martin was trying to say about the determinism inherent in God’s foreknowledge.  That’s even more interesting.

And that doesn't even get into the issue of could God hide aspects of the future of individual's choices from Himself?

But mostly, I get weary of the topic fairly fast. LOL.