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Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« on: April 08, 2018, 02:40:09 pm »
Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
By Rebecca Savransky - 04/08/18 09:19 AM EDT

President Trump on Sunday put blame on former President Obama after the alleged chemical attack in Syria.

"If President Obama had crossed his stated Red Line In The Sand, the Syrian disaster would have ended long ago! Animal Assad would have been history!" Trump tweeted, referring to Syrian President Bashar Assad.

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2018, 02:54:04 pm »
A blunt insight into the president’s thinking that presents a bit of a dilemma to NeverTrumpers. They certainly don’t like Obama, but appear to hate Donald Trump worse. Hmm what’s a never to do?
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2018, 02:56:24 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on April 08, 2018, 02:54:04 pm
A blunt insight into the president’s thinking that presents a bit of a dilemma to NeverTrumpers. They certainly don’t like Obama, but appear to hate Donald Trump worse. Hmm what’s a never to do?

LOL!  I had just posted something similar @aligncare  but deleted it as too provocative.   (Snowflakes are not without their sensitivities)

Thanks for your courage!!   888high58888
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2018, 02:58:24 pm »
From April 2017.....

“It crossed a lot of lines for me,” Trump told reporters during a news conference at the White House with the king of Jordan. “When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, babies, little babies, with a chemical gas that is so lethal ... that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line. Many, many lines.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-chemical-attacks-in-syria-crossed-many-many-lines-236920


Obama isn’t in office anymore.  His failures were legion and a change was made to correct them.  Stop whining about the past and tell us what you intend to do about it.


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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2018, 03:07:41 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 08, 2018, 02:56:24 pm
LOL!  I had just posted something similar @aligncare  but deleted it as too provocative.   (Snowflakes are not without their sensitivities)

Thanks for your courage!!   888high58888

Of course, I was speaking theoretically. But, still I figure anyone coming here to challenge my comment must surely know that they might be revealing their cards, so to speak.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2018, 03:16:00 pm »
Quote from: edpc on April 08, 2018, 02:58:24 pm
From April 2017.....

“It crossed a lot of lines for me,” Trump told reporters during a news conference at the White House with the king of Jordan. “When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, babies, little babies, with a chemical gas that is so lethal ... that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line. Many, many lines.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-chemical-attacks-in-syria-crossed-many-many-lines-236920


Obama isn’t in office anymore.  His failures were legion and a change was made to correct them.  Stop whining about the past and tell us what you intend to do about it.

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I've tried to live my life by that credo since those days. When Trump was inaugurated, he got the keys to the car. He wasn't planted by force in the Oval Office, he volunteered for the job...so do the job, Mr. Trump.

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2018, 03:17:53 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 08, 2018, 02:56:24 pm
LOL!  I had just posted something similar @aligncare  but deleted it as too provocative.   (Snowflakes are not without their sensitivities)

Thanks for your courage!!   888high58888

Courage?   :thud:  You Orange Brigadiers have a peculiar way when it comes to defining "courage".  :3:

Orange Brigadiers are "chairborne Rangers" IMHO. They talk loudly and carry mean tweets.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2018, 03:20:26 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on April 08, 2018, 02:54:04 pm
A blunt insight into the president’s thinking that presents a bit of a dilemma to NeverTrumpers. They certainly don’t like Obama, but appear to hate Donald Trump worse. Hmm what’s a never to do?

I expect him to be a leader, and do the job. He's been so scatter brained in the promises he's made, and the messages he sends to the world. I didn't "hate" Obama, I don't "hate" Trump. Their inability to accept responsibility for their decisions make both of them Class A REMFs in my book.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2018, 03:24:31 pm »
   I guess we'll find out soon enough if obummer signed one of Trumps infamous NDA's.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 03:25:12 pm »
ISIS defeated or at the least, is down and out... Obama withdrew troops, ISIS rose up, even the Bushies should be able to recognize this, Trump salvaged that situation. Instead, Dubya is having a toast with Obama....

That's just the truth, Trump administration also has gotten NK to back down on the surface,

Those insulting Trump and any supporter of the Republican nominee are entitled to their opinion but not their own facts.

I'm sorry the Trump insulters are disappointed that we are not watching the onslaught of innocents every day from jihadist groups like ISIS.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 03:25:28 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on April 08, 2018, 02:54:04 pm
A blunt insight into the president’s thinking that presents a bit of a dilemma to NeverTrumpers. They certainly don’t like Obama, but appear to hate Donald Trump worse. Hmm what’s a never to do?

The idea that any.... ANY of us here approved of Obama more than we do Trump is ugly.

Those of us who disapprove of Trump do so from the side of conservatism, not liberalism.

The sooner you figure that out, the more you will understand what's going on.....
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2018, 03:27:38 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on April 08, 2018, 02:54:04 pm
A blunt insight into the president’s thinking that presents a bit of a dilemma to NeverTrumpers. They certainly don’t like Obama, but appear to hate Donald Trump worse. Hmm what’s a never to do?

Absolutely, Trump admin salvages Bush's Iraq intervention, yet, a lot of the detractors, who are Bush supporters criticize Trump. It is truly baffling.

I mean, ISIS is one of the greatest evils since World War II, up there with the Khmere Rouge and others, with the difference in that, ISIS wants to export their terror to everywhere in the world, UK, France, Germany and even the USA.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2018, 03:29:00 pm »
"Credit where credit is due"... and away from the usual forum-member sparring, per the original story here,  surely Trump is correct.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2018, 03:29:29 pm »
   They'll never figure it out.

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2018, 03:32:55 pm »
For anyone to say they approve of Trump less than, or even equal with, Obama is a slap in the face to the conservative gains made under President Trump.

Sometimes you got to stop and realize when you’re winning.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 03:35:25 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on April 08, 2018, 03:32:55 pm
For anyone to say they approve of Trump less than, or even equal with, Obama is a slap in the face to the conservative gains made under President Trump.

Sometimes you got to stop and realize when you’re winning.

Liberal ideals can never be defined as "winning" for a conservative.

(And the betrayal of moral, ethical, fiscal principles coming from the party that once claimed to believe in them, is a deeper wound than when it comes from the Dem party.  It doesn't mean anyone approves of Obama more (NO one does).  It just means we have been stabbed in the back by our own party.......... or what once was our party).

Again.......... if you try to grasp what conservatism actually means, you will begin to understand why we cannot support your pseudo-Republican idol.

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2018, 03:35:32 pm »
Quote from: corbe on April 08, 2018, 03:29:29 pm
   They'll never figure it out.



Trolling remark,

They'll never figure it out.



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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2018, 03:36:21 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 08, 2018, 03:35:25 pm
Liberal ideals can never be defined as "winning" for a conservative.

But defeating terrorism is "winning" for America.

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2018, 03:40:40 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on April 08, 2018, 03:36:21 pm
But defeating terrorism is "winning" for America.

The jury is still out as to whether or not that is being done.

Nonetheless, the number of hardcore liberal things this president has already done is inarguable.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 03:43:20 pm »
After Bush and Obama's actions, up to 80% of all Christians have disappeared from Iraq. Trump, even if one wants to say, he got out of the way for the military to do their job, has helped defeat ISIS.  If that is not conservatism, I guess I'll take it versus Dubya's version.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 03:44:34 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on April 08, 2018, 03:25:12 pm
ISIS defeated or at the least, is down and out... Obama withdrew troops, ISIS rose up, even the Bushies should be able to recognize this, Trump salvaged that situation.


Yeah, it's really great how peaceful Syria is without ISIS, now and how Iraq is under Iran's thumb.


Iraq grapples with Iranian influence ahead of May elections

Iranian support and military advisers helped Baghdad's Shiite-led government beat back the Islamic State group. But with IS militants now largely defeated militarily, Iran's expanding influence has emerged as one of Iraq's most divisive issues ahead of the balloting.

That influence has sown fear among Iraq's disenchanted minority Sunnis, who bore the brunt of the war's destruction, and has also caused concern in Washington. Despite tensions between the United States and Iran, both remain key allies of Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi's government.

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/iraq-grapples-iranian-influence-ahead-elections-54223229
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 03:45:09 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on April 08, 2018, 03:43:20 pm
After Bush and Obama's actions, up to 80% of all Christians have disappeared from Iraq. Trump, even if one wants to say, he got out of the way for the military to do their job, has helped defeat ISIS.  If that is not conservatism, I guess I'll take it versus Dubya's version.

Do you also take Trump's doubling funding for Planned Parenthood over Dubya's consistent pro-life stance?

There is not a single conservative bone in Trump's body.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2018, 03:59:42 pm »
I found the "home" Trump and the GOP have built for Christian conservatives:

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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2018, 04:02:36 pm »
I see my assumption proved right.
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Re: Trump puts blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack in Syria
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 04:05:09 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on April 08, 2018, 03:59:42 pm
I found the "home" Trump and the GOP have built for Christian conservatives:



Still can't comment on the subject that is about Syria! Real big victory for you!
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