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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2017, 09:34:42 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 14, 2017, 09:11:19 pm
Would you prefer Doug Jones be seated ASAP? Then he can vote on tax reform.

We already knew, based on the certification timeline set forth by the Alabama SoS, the winner would not be seated until the 2018 session began.  So, what I'd prefer is people not incorrectly and knowingly falsely interpret what I've said in an effort to create a salve for their own butthurtedness.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2017, 09:39:34 pm »
Who are you trying to kid? Provoking "butthurtedness" is exactly why you're here today posting on this issue.

I just didn't want to disappoint you.
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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2017, 09:46:23 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 14, 2017, 07:44:58 pm
I'm sure you are anxious for the senate to seat Jones. Sooner is better, right?


Do you beat your wife?
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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2017, 09:49:58 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on December 14, 2017, 09:46:23 pm

Do you beat your wife?
No.

(I think you screwed up your complex question fallacy.)
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2017, 10:32:18 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 14, 2017, 09:39:34 pm
I just didn't want to disappoint you.


Well, thanks for trying.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2017, 11:02:06 pm »
(Narrator voice): It was over....
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2017, 12:31:03 am »
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2017, 12:36:14 am »
Memories...........

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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2017, 12:38:56 am »
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2017, 12:47:10 am »
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A classic.

No one has beaten the combo of Don, Frank and Howard in that booth.
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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2017, 12:50:53 am »
Quote from: DiogenesLamp on December 14, 2017, 09:06:23 pm

Moore was different both culturally and era-wise.   To those  outside of his specific time and sub culture,  he appeared as a kook.   To those within his subculture and era,   he was not.   

Most people want to judge him by their own life experiences and culture,  not those of his time and place.   There is no empathy for him because people cannot relate.   His existence is so Alien to them. 


He is "the other."
As I grew up, he would be considered very normal.  He is definitely not a kook.

Look at the attack on him and his message as the future attacks on ministers and clergy.  bet on it.
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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2017, 12:56:29 am »
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As I grew up, he would be considered very normal.  He is definitely not a kook.

Look at the attack on him and his message as the future attacks on ministers and clergy.  bet on it.

Roy Moore managed to get where a great many of my generation aspired to go and as far as I'm concerned he is a great man and  true patriot.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2017, 01:10:26 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on December 15, 2017, 12:47:10 am
No one has beaten the combo of Don, Frank and Howard in that booth.


They were usually drunk as hell.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2017, 01:22:51 am »
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Back in the beginning of this millenium Moore defied a Federal court order. I think the court order was stupid. It was an overreaching interpretation of  the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Nonetheless, it was a valid court order. He defied a valid court order and he was the Chief Justice.

He's a kook.

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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2017, 01:24:16 am »
Quote from: Bigun on December 15, 2017, 12:56:29 am
Roy Moore managed to get where a great many of my generation aspired to go and as far as I'm concerned he is a great man and  true patriot.
Yep!
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2017, 01:25:18 am »
Quote from: edpc on December 15, 2017, 01:10:26 am

They were usually drunk as hell.

Don and Frank laid a lot of track back in the day.  If they were alive today the would never pass the new test on Inappropriate Sexual behavior.
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Re: Moore on election results: I'm waiting for Secretary of State's final count
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2017, 01:25:24 am »
Quote from: Bigun on December 15, 2017, 12:56:29 am
Roy Moore managed to get where a great many of my generation aspired to go and as far as I'm concerned he is a great man and  true patriot.

 888high58888  I am not evangelical as he is.... but yes.

As for the substance... how many ballots yet to count?  Especially military?

Now the Machiavellian in me speaks..... drawing this out gives tax cuts one more vote until it is decided. The Judge is doing a service here. I expect a tax package, passed by both Houses ..next week.



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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2017, 01:28:24 am »
Quote from: Machiavelli on December 15, 2017, 01:22:51 am
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Back in the beginning of this millenium Moore defied a Federal court order. I think the court order was stupid. It was an overreaching interpretation of  the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Nonetheless, it was a valid court order. He defied a valid court order and he was the Chief Justice.

He's a kook.
Got it. He disagreed vehemently, so he's a kook. Well bleep it, I guess I'm a kook, too. Not only was the establishment clause twisted out of shape on that one, but on the other issue the Tenth Amendment was shredded and the District Judge ordered the wrong people to do things they didn't do, so Moore ordered his people to follow the State Constitution.
Some "kook".  We could use a lot more of them, we'd be rid of the ACA if we had a Congress full.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2017, 01:28:48 am »
Quote from: WineNot on December 15, 2017, 01:25:18 am
Don and Frank laid a lot of track back in the day.  If they were alive today the would never pass the new test on Inappropriate Sexual behavior.

Well, we know Frank for sure.  He got caught up in that famous tabloid sting.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2017, 01:31:24 am »
He's right. With a difference of 100 votes or so, it would be stupid not to get a recount.

Maybe he can find hundreds of ballots in the trunk of his car, like they did for Al Franken.

Every time Franken fell behind, his staff 'found' just enough ballots to put him in the lead again. The most fraudulent election ever, and yet nobody said a word about it.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2017, 01:35:21 am »
Quote from: Machiavelli on December 15, 2017, 01:22:51 am
@DiogenesLamp
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Back in the beginning of this millenium Moore defied a Federal court order. I think the court order was stupid. It was an overreaching interpretation of  the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Nonetheless, it was a valid court order. He defied a valid court order and he was the Chief Justice.

He's a kook.IMHO.

Fixed it for you. 

And I strongly disagree with you.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2017, 01:40:03 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 15, 2017, 01:28:24 am
Got it. He disagreed vehemently, so he's a kook. Well bleep it, I guess I'm a kook, too. Not only was the establishment clause twisted out of shape on that one, but on the other issue the Tenth Amendment was shredded and the District Judge ordered the wrong people to do things they didn't do, so Moore ordered his people to follow the State Constitution.
Some "kook".  We could use a lot more of them, we'd be rid of the ACA if we had a Congress full.

He didn't just disagree. He defied a valid court order. Yes, the court did twist the establishment clause. That happens all the time these days. It's the theocrats are coming, the theocrats are coming! It's chicken little bullshit. But you can't defy a valid court order, especially if you're a chief justice.
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2017, 01:43:01 am »
Quote from: Machiavelli on December 15, 2017, 01:40:03 am
He didn't just disagree. He defied a valid court order. Yes, the court did twist the establishment clause. That happens all the time these days. It's the theocrats are coming, the theocrats are coming! It's chicken little bullshit. But you can't defy a valid court order, especially if you're a chief justice.

And by defying that court order on behalf of the state of Alabama he put the case on a direct track to have SCOTUS decide the matter.

IMHO we would be FAR better off today if our president had defied a few recently issued nut case issued court orders!
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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2017, 01:56:22 am »
    Though I thoroughly enjoyed the back and forth here on TBR the last 2 months, I never lost sight that other than a few Briefers that actually live in Alabama (who I am appreciative of even Moore for their on the ground reports @Sighlass) None of us really had any Skin in the Game, unless we were donating and I know some of you did or doing phone banks for him.



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Re: Roy Moore refuses to concede, says Alabama Senate race ‘not over’
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2017, 02:02:06 am »
Quote from: corbe on December 15, 2017, 01:56:22 am
    Though I thoroughly enjoyed the back and forth here on TBR the last 2 months, I never lost sight that other than a few Briefers that actually live in Alabama (who I am appreciative of even Moore for their on the ground reports @Sighlass) None of us really had any Skin in the Game, unless we were donating and I know some of you did or doing phone banks for him.

I strongly disagree with you @corbe.  We all had plenty of skin in the game whether or not we realize it.
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