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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #525 on: August 24, 2017, 02:26:54 am »
What you don't seem to understand AC is that Cruz was being true to HIS conscience and to his supporters. 

At any rate .... DRUM ROLL   

The topic is:  Replacing the Republican Party.

Since the Constitution Party has been brought up throughout this thread; I noticed that they've revamped their webpage.  The party of "Integrity, Liberty and Prosperity":

https://www.constitutionparty.com/

There is also a discussion of their party platforms here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,126.0.html

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #526 on: August 24, 2017, 02:29:08 am »
You  keep believing that, sweetie. Bless your heart.

Beat me to it.  Thx.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #527 on: August 24, 2017, 02:29:15 am »
A 21 page thread? Where was I?

Not caring.

We do need a second party in this country. The Uniparty system sucks. The Republicrat party just ain't getting it done.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #528 on: August 24, 2017, 02:29:46 am »
Well, when I consciously remember the quote, I know I am.  Under the guise of "conscience" Cruz was saying "I don't support Donald Trump for President".  Scratch the surface of this statement a little deeper, and he was saying:  "I can live with Hillary Clinton as POTUS".

Like it or not, Cruz was and will remain frozen in that moment in time a small-minded, whining, self-serving politician prepared to sell out this nation for four years because his feelings were hurt.   Insult to this self-inflicted injury:  This was his choice.    :shrug:

The only way Cruz will be on solid national footing again is if people stop pulling off the scab and let this heal.

Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #529 on: August 24, 2017, 02:33:17 am »
This asinine pie-in-the sky movement suggested by malcontents is the stupidest thing ever.

Even if it had a snowball's chance in the hot place of happening, you are right, it would take decades.  Decades in which a fractured Republican party would lose to the socialist, communist leftist bunch that we just got rid of after 8 years.

I can't stand those people.  They have a superiority complex because they are so dam good, they can't accept anything less than perfect.  They don't actually suggest any small steps toward what we want.  Small steps can get you there.  But no, throw them all out.

Frankly, they are as sickening as Trump lovers, or whatever the current acceptable term has been decreed t be.

   The most recent history shows that Ross Perot built the organization to unseat incumbent GHWB in less than 16 months. Truly I believe Trump did that too, taped into that same populist vein of the American politic. It can be done.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #530 on: August 24, 2017, 02:35:40 am »
Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #532 on: August 24, 2017, 02:39:00 am »
good post...I enjoyed it

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #533 on: August 24, 2017, 02:39:24 am »
This asinine pie-in-the sky movement suggested by malcontents is the stupidest thing ever.

You are welcome to think so.

I think Loyalists in 1775-76 thought so too.

Even if it had a snowball's chance in the hot place of happening, you are right, it would take decades.  Decades in which a fractured Republican party would lose to the socialist, communist leftist bunch that we just got rid of after 8 years.

Your party and president told us repeatedly - they did not need, nor want us - and then the Trump mob decided to call us traitors deserving death for voting our consciences.  Your party is already Whigged.  You just don't realize it yet.

I can't stand those people.  They have a superiority complex because they are so dam good, they can't accept anything less than perfect.  They don't actually suggest any small steps toward what we want.  Small steps can get you there.  But no, throw them all out.

You got it toots.  We tried everything your way for 3 decades, spent a lot of money and time that was absolutely wasted and there is no discernible difference between the GOP and the Democrat party except the degree of Socialism and Big Government they are pushing.  The fruits INDICT your party wholesale.  A half step forward, 13 steps backward arm and arm with Democrats.

Frankly, they are as sickening as Trump lovers, or whatever the current acceptable term has been decreed t be.

It's a Cause.  We intend to wage it and preach the need to dump the GOP and move towards Conservatism away from an irredeemable and wholly corrupted party.

Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Absolutely agree with your assessment. Sadly the Party will never let him advance beyond where he is - and McConnell and Co. will do what they can to marginalize and ouster him.  Including running others against him and even supporting the Democrat in Texas over him.  Behind the scenes of course, a McConnell specialty.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #534 on: August 24, 2017, 02:42:55 am »
So ... while we're going down memory lane - Go Ted!


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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #535 on: August 24, 2017, 02:47:26 am »
Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.

Damn, Emjay, that is excellent!

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #536 on: August 24, 2017, 02:48:10 am »
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #537 on: August 24, 2017, 02:49:32 am »
    @Emjay are you OK?

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #538 on: August 24, 2017, 02:51:18 am »
Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #539 on: August 24, 2017, 02:52:54 am »
    @Emjay are you OK?

   :beer:

I think she might have had to go smoke a cigarette after that one. :)

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #540 on: August 24, 2017, 02:59:17 am »
Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.

I'm with you 1000%!!!

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« Reply #541 on: August 24, 2017, 03:00:58 am »
Cruz is the better man.  That's why you Trump lovers hate him so much.

Feelings hurt?  I'll show you feelings hurt.  Trump lied about Cruz all during the primaries.  He lied about Cruz's father.  He lied about Cruz's wife.  I like Melania but Trump using a screen grab of Heidi next to a studio shot of Melania was really the lowest possible act.

During all that, Cruz remained a gentleman.  He never lied about Trump or abused his family. 

The worst thing he ever did was say "Vote your Conscience."  And that is something we should all do.

Cruz is a brilliant constitutional scholar.  He has a sophisticated vocabulary and knows adjectives beyond 'very.'  He has true conservative principles.

He is ten times the man Trump is.

And that's what scares you people.

Bravo!

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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #542 on: August 24, 2017, 03:09:46 am »
This asinine pie-in-the sky movement suggested by malcontents is the stupidest thing ever.

Even if it had a snowball's chance in the hot place of happening, you are right, it would take decades.  Decades in which a fractured Republican party would lose to the socialist, communist leftist bunch that we just got rid of after 8 years.

I can't stand those people.  They have a superiority complex because they are so dam good, they can't accept anything less than perfect.  They don't actually suggest any small steps toward what we want.  Small steps can get you there.  But no, throw them all out.

Frankly, they are as sickening as Trump lovers, or whatever the current acceptable term has been decreed t be.
Cockiness and so much self-assurance when one does not comprehend or imagine alternatives exist.

The Whigs thought they were the light of the country at one time.  Only took about 2 decades for them to begin, have 4 US Presidents claimed, then drop into the ash-heap of history.

Happened before, can happen again.

Sticking it to conservatives by nominating guys like Bushes, Romneys and McCains is most assuredly choosing the same path of obsolesence for the GOP as it surrenders its fight by choosing to join forces with the left by being somewhere in the squishy middle..

Conservatives can win, there is no doubt. 
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #543 on: August 24, 2017, 03:24:36 am »
    @Emjay are you OK?

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Borderline.  But thanks for caring.
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« Reply #544 on: August 24, 2017, 03:26:16 am »
Cockiness and so much self-assurance when one does not comprehend or imagine alternatives exist.

The Whigs thought they were the light of the country at one time.  Only took about 2 decades for them to begin, have 4 US Presidents claimed, then drop into the ash-heap of history.

Happened before, can happen again.

Sticking it to conservatives by nominating guys like Bushes, Romneys and McCains is most assuredly choosing the same path of obsolesence for the GOP as it surrenders its fight by choosing to join forces with the left by being somewhere in the squishy middle..

Conservatives can win, there is no doubt.

If you seriously think that you can establish some kind of third party, I wish you well.

What is your first step and how long do you think it will take and what will happen in the meantime?

Just a few relevant questions.
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« Reply #545 on: August 24, 2017, 03:27:59 am »
.... you may have left the party but most conservatives haven't because the party is our best chance for achieving conservative goals.

After over 520 posts, this is a simple statement of fact; of the Truth.
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« Reply #546 on: August 24, 2017, 03:28:44 am »
   The most recent history shows that Ross Perot built the organization to unseat incumbent GHWB in less than 16 months. Truly I believe Trump did that too, taped into that same populist vein of the American politic. It can be done.

I was too kind to mention DB H. Ross Perot, who gave us 8 years of Clinton.

Perot was no paragon of virtue either.
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« Reply #547 on: August 24, 2017, 03:33:00 am »
If you seriously think that you can establish some kind of third party, I wish you well.

What is your first step and how long do you think it will take and what will happen in the meantime?

Just a few relevant questions.
What your brain refuses to comprehend is that the Republican are in fact a third party, formed after the demise of the Whigs.

Try getting out of the brilliance you exude so confidently, and seek alternatives. 

If this country could be founded by a bunch of rebels against the greatest power in the world at the time, it can sure as hell found another third party.
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Re: Replacing the Republican Party
« Reply #548 on: August 24, 2017, 03:35:22 am »
After over 520 posts, this is a simple statement of fact; of the Truth.

No it isn't. 'Most Conservatives' have not been Republican for nigh on a decade now.
'Most Conservatives' are Independent.

And there hasn't been a Conservative goal met in THIRTY YEARS.
Not a single conservative principle has gained ground.
And that is entirely at the feet of the Republican party <SPIT>

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« Reply #549 on: August 24, 2017, 03:38:23 am »
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.... you may have left the party but most conservatives haven't because the party is our best chance for achieving conservative goals.

If that's the case we have very little hope IMHO!
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