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[jmyrlefuller]

dismissing a series of assertions is not refusing to hear them

Yes it is.

[Ghost Bear]

Stop with your "moral relativism"  crap.    You people have a "triage"  problem.   You can't tell the greater good from the lesser good.   

Oooooh, did I hit a nerve?

Good.

[jmyrlefuller]

You people have a "triage"  problem.   You can't tell the greater good from the lesser good. 

No. You have an ignorance problem. You automatically assume that the Republican is the lesser evil and ignore or reject any evidence to the contrary, just because he's a Republican.

Abaraxas laid it out for you. You denied all of it.

[DiogenesLamp]

Please tell me you didn't just compare Trump to Jesus.

I quoted Jesus deliberately violating a lesser moral issue when a larger moral issue was at stake.   In context,  my intention was to show we voters face a similar challenge in this election.


I thought it was obvious that we voters should behave  like Jesus,  and place the greater moral issue above that of the lesser moral issue. 


How do you get a Trump comparison to Jesus out of anything I cited? 


Trump doesn't have the conflicting moral dilemma,   *WE DO*. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Yes it is.

Okay Pee Wee. 

[jmyrlefuller]

Okay Pee Wee.

Name-calling? Really?

[DiogenesLamp]

Oooooh, did I hit a nerve?

Good.

More like getting on the nerves.   I have so far seen nothing which shows that any of you have the mental acumen necessary to cause me any discomfort. 


All you do is trade childish taunts,  and seldom if ever respond as if you were an educated adult.   I've dealt with childish adults for decades,  and you lot appear no better than most I have spanked in the past.   

[DiogenesLamp]

No. You have an ignorance problem. You automatically assume that the Republican is the lesser evil and ignore or reject any evidence to the contrary, just because he's a Republican.

When I see some evidence to the contrary,   *THEN*  I might be able to reject it,   but so far all that has been put in front of me is childish crap. 


Trump donated to Hillary!  Big whoop.   

Bill Clinton told Trump to run!   Big whoop. 

The Clinton campaign wanted Trump to be the candidate!   Big Whoop.   


Seriously,   not a single speck of this compares to the very evil and unethical things which Hillary has done throughout a 37 year career of sleaze and graft.   


PRESENT SOME EVIDENCE!!!!  Stop with this childish crap and give me an example of where Trump has committed an evil on par with Hillary Rotten Clinton.   

Abaraxas laid it out for you. You denied all of it.

I ignored it because the entirety of it was childish crap that was unfit to be introduced into a discussion about which of them is more evil.   


Show me some EVIL !!!!!   Some real EVIL,   like firing 7 people so you can give their jobs to your cronies who will then funnel government contract money back to you in a secret kickback scheme,  and then demand that the FBI prosecute the fired people!   

Show me some Trump evil on that scale!     


Put up some evidence and stop talking about childish crap like campaign contributions and such. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Name-calling? Really?

I say "No it isn't",  to which you respond "Yes it is"  and you don't think the conversation has descended to the childish name calling stage?   


What are you,  12? 

[Mod2]

Ok, the topic of this thread is "election prediction" not "sophomoric insults". 

Please stick to the topic.

[Bigun]

There is a form of argument in which you throw up so many claims that it becomes implausible to refute them.   Instead of one argument,  you have a dozen,   all of which must be challenged for their accuracy or significance.   

Let's take just one of your assertions. 


"Trump is the only candidate that donated to Hillary's Senate run."


So?  This did not singlehandedly elect Hillary.   This is the sort of thing that well connected New Yorkers do,  and of course Trump did what he believed was in the best interests of his business operations.   

Is this significant in the larger scheme of things?   No.   In fact,  i'll cite the Gipper himself. 



http://youtu.be/NIcDdWgBELY


All of what you cited is trivial compared to what is wrong with Hillary.

Just my take but you remind me of someone desperately trying to rationalize something that is clearly irrational.

[ConstitutionRose]

Are you kidding?  Virtually every discussion with a "Libertarian"  starts off with cannabis.   If it doesn't start that way,  it gets there eventually.   

Wrong.  My husband and many of his friends are Libertarians.  None of them smoke pot. Heck none of them smoke.  Most of them don't drink.  They are strongly individualistic.  No place for that mindset in the GOP or Democrat parties.

Too much generalization.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Wrong.  My husband and many of his friends are Libertarians.  None of them smoke pot. Heck none of them smoke.  Most of them don't drink.  They are strongly individualistic.  No place for that mindset in the GOP or Democrat parties.

Too much generalization.

I think he(DL)'s right.  Virtually every discussion with a "Libertarian"  starts off with cannabis.  It's just not the libertarian that brings it up, quite the opposite.

[r9etb]

Wrong.  My husband and many of his friends are Libertarians.  None of them smoke pot. Heck none of them smoke.  Most of them don't drink.  They are strongly individualistic.  No place for that mindset in the GOP or Democrat parties.

Too much generalization.

For Libertarians who actually engage in discussion/debate ... I've found that they tend to be highly doctrinaire, and so tied to the theoretical basis of their ideas that they lose sight of real-world people and how they behave.  A few classics include:

- Arguments that drunk driving shouldn't be illegal unless somebody gets hurt;

- You have no right to complain about the crack house (or whorehouse) next door;

- The panoply of foreign policy silliness. 

- And, of course, there actually is a broad swath of libertarianism that is all about the cannabis in particular, and drugs in general.

Libertarians (programmers all, apparently) are absolutely unyielding on such things, which is why the party is not a serious player in American politics.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I think he(DL)'s right.  Virtually every discussion with a "Libertarian"  starts off with cannabis.  It's just not the libertarian that brings it up, quite the opposite.

It's like talking to a vegan, make sure you ask them where they get their protein. 

[jmyrlefuller]

It's like talking to a vegan, make sure you ask them where they get their protein. 

And their B12.

[libertybele]

Ok, the topic of this thread is "election prediction" not "sophomoric insults". 

Please stick to the topic.

 

[libertybele]

Trump is nuts and lacking in IQ to the point that it should have disqualified him from gaining the nomination.  He is also crooked and corrupt, but I have to agree with you, he is not even close to HRC on the evil scale.  I can't think of too many human beings on the planet that are her peer on that scale.

...Any country that would elect Obama twice will turn a blind eye to HRC while holding out their collective hands to be filled.

Exactly. They only care about continuing to get their freebies.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Ok, the topic of this thread is "election prediction" not "sophomoric insults". 

Please stick to the topic.

Poopie head...

[The_Reader_David]

Here's a prediction:  Come Nov. 8, the US will elect a corrupt self-serving egoist whose short-sighted and foolish policies will make US involvement in a significant foreign war against the national army of one or more major or important regional powers far more likely that it has been for the last decade, or would have been going forward had the winner's party chosen a different candidate from the field who put themselves forward for the nomination.

[The_Reader_David]

No fair.  You're right either way.

That was the point.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

One thing you guys are forgetting is the jobs report comes out on Friday.


If it's good, that won't help Trump.

[Meshuge Mikey]

One thing you guys are forgetting is the jobs report comes out on Friday.


If it's good, that won't help Trump.

If Trump accidently voids his contract by winning... he's out BGLY BUCKS from the Clintons!!

[GrouchoTex]

Earlier in the Thread, I thought Trump would eek out a win if Clinton couldn't come up with any new dirt on him.
As of this morning the 2nd, the best they've done since the FBI story is blame Comey, and reintroduce the Miss Universe lady.
If this is all they got..............

[guitar4jesus]

Earlier in the Thread, I thought Trump would eek out a win if Clinton couldn't come up with any new dirt on him.
As of this morning the 2nd, the best they've done since the FBI story is blame Comey, and reintroduce the Miss Universe lady.
If this is all they got..............

Can't be.... I'm still expecting something big by Friday.  It's just how these people roll....