Woe unto Christian NeverTrumps

[endicom]

American Thinker
Lloyd Marcus
Oct. 6, 2016

For the life of me, I do not understand Christians who say they cannot vote for Trump. Under Obama, leftists/progressives have made huge gains in their efforts to make Christianity illegal in America.

Remember the old hymn, “I Have Decided to Follow Jesus”? Who could imagine a day would come in America when following Jesus would land you in jail? Criminalizing Christianity is happening and gaining momentum.

Powerful Leftists have decreed that following Jesus in America today to be hate speech, resulting in Christians being punished, stereotyped, marginalized, intimidated, fired, and even jailed.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/woe_unto_christian_nevertrumpers.html

[Chosen Daughter]

American Thinker
Lloyd Marcus
Oct. 6, 2016

For the life of me, I do not understand Christians who say they cannot vote for Trump. Under Obama, leftists/progressives have made huge gains in their efforts to make Christianity illegal in America.

Remember the old hymn, “I Have Decided to Follow Jesus”? Who could imagine a day would come in America when following Jesus would land you in jail? Criminalizing Christianity is happening and gaining momentum.

Powerful Leftists have decreed that following Jesus in America today to be hate speech, resulting in Christians being punished, stereotyped, marginalized, intimidated, fired, and even jailed.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/woe_unto_christian_nevertrumpers.html

Christians should put their hope in Jesus Christ not Donald Trump.  I posted a quote from Hitler saying the same things about his love for Christians and Christianity.  Donald Trump is not a Christian.   His plans against other religions tell the story for the future of Christianity.  If any person believes he can separate religions out for test and limiting immigration  of certain religions without it happening to them  have their head in the sand.  Anyone thinking that Donald is your savior from religious discrimination should study religion under Hitler and get back to me.

We have a Constitution.  And the separate powers of Government need to enact laws to make sure that activists judges follow the Constitution.  If they are activist they should be removed.  I don't believe for a moment that Trump is going to protect anyone's religious rights.  It is up to Godly men and women to vote for Godly men and women to lead this country based on its Constitutional law.  And Donald Trump is not a Godly man.

"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."

-Hitler

Trump did keep a copy of Mein Kampf on his night stand. 

[sinkspur]

Not voting for Trump has nothing to do with Christianity.

Some of us simply can't vote for crazy.

[DiogenesLamp]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!   

[endicom]

Not voting for Trump has nothing to do with Christianity.

Some of us simply can't vote for crazy.

Shouldn't you be avoiding this topic?

[endicom]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

Satinist? Why not 'Silkinist?'

[Chosen Daughter]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

I have not posted but there is people saying that Trump is also a Satanist.  He makes the secret signs.   

[sinkspur]

Shouldn't you be avoiding this topic?

Why?

It's your guy who said this, just yesterday:

Trump says he insulted women "for the purposes of entertainment."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299566-trump-claims-he-insulted-women-for-the-purpose-of

[skeeter]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

Trump is everything his detractors here say. But I cannot lift a finger if lifting it will help Hillary Clinton in even the slightest manner. She is poison to our society and the republic.

[XenaLee]

Christians should put their hope in Jesus Christ not Donald Trump.  I posted a quote from Hitler saying the same things about his love for Christians and Christianity.  Donald Trump is not a Christian.   His plans against other religions tell the story for the future of Christianity.  If any person believes he can separate religions out for test and limiting immigration  of certain religions without it happening to them  have their head in the sand.  Anyone thinking that Donald is your savior from religious discrimination should study religion under Hitler and get back to me.

We have a Constitution.  And the separate powers of Government need to enact laws to make sure that activists judges follow the Constitution.  If they are activist they should be removed.  I don't believe for a moment that Trump is going to protect anyone's religious rights.  It is up to Godly men and women to vote for Godly men and women to lead this country based on its Constitutional law.  And Donald Trump is not a Godly man.

"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."

-Hitler

Trump did keep a copy of Mein Kampf on his night stand.

I'll say it again (and again).....

if Hillary Clinton is the devil.....then Donald Trump is her main minion.  He has supported her in the past.....and he is supporting her even now.  And no Christian would behave as Trump behaves.

[musiclady]

For the life of me, I do not understand Christians who say they cannot vote for Trump

Then you do not understand what being a Christian means, Lloyd.

Either that, or you do not know enough about Donald Trump.

I understand that some Christians, easily swayed, can vote for a degenerate, corrupt leftist, but I cannot.

(And I just spent the weekend visiting with 8 other Christians......very solid, very Biblical, very devout...... who can't either).

[bolobaby]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

I'm unclear who is the nazi-stalinist in your example - Hillary or Trump?

[musiclady]

Trump is everything his detractors here say. But I cannot lift a finger if lifting it will help Hillary Clinton in even the slightest manner. She is poison to our society and the republic.

So is Trump.

[Night Hides Not]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian?   



Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

BTW, what in the heck is a "Satinist"?

[GrouchoTex]

It is my opinion (and only an opinion), that a Christian would do well by not voting for either one of those two at the top of their respective tickets.
judging both by the fruits of their labor, would most likely result in both #NeverTrump and #NeverHillary.

[XenaLee]

Can you source that?  It is a horrible thing to say if it is not true.  I'm not for winning by bearing false witness any more than I am for winning with the hideous Trump.  Not accusing....just wanting to check your source.

It wasn't Mein Kampf, it was My New Order....a book of Hitler's speeches.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html

[roamer_1]

For the life of me, I do not understand Christians who say they cannot vote for Trump.

What insufferable pap.

Rom 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. (KJV)

 

[Night Hides Not]

What insufferable pap.

Rom 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. (KJV)

 

There's but one Bible verse that I know by heart: 1 John 3:18.



Simply put, "deeds not words." Trump & Hillary fail in their deeds and words.

[Just_Victor]

If I place my faith in God, then I can be at peace regardless of the outcome of this life's events.  God will take care me, so I need not worry.

[XenaLee]

It was a gift from a friend, apparently.  The revelation came from his ex-wife, so....I would need more than just that before I were to read more into it.  There is enough reason to not vote for Trump without trying to claim he studied Mein Kampf or any Hitler book.  Trump does not read, remember.  His only interests are self adulation and money.  He is a schemer, but he is not really a thinker.

Ah, but he is a schemer that adores adulation.  Even the kind of adulation that Hitler managed to receive from his adoring supporters.  I can see (easily) Trump trying to emulate that rhetoric that would garner him similar support.  And remember, this isn't Trump's first and only attempt to gain that adoration and power.  And nationalism and populism does ring a bell re: his campaign.

[ABX]

Thanks for the reinforcement and reminder why I oppose Trump. I almost had second thoughts for a few seconds with Pence's debate thinking about at least getting him second in line would be good....


....but then this article reminded me about the disturbing trend on the right and even among Christians, looking to the government to be their savior and white knight and placing their hopes for change in a golden calf instead of God....  Christian Conservatives have been replacing God with Government and they have been creating their own demise. They don't need to look to the left, they need to look in a mirror.

That is just as bad as progressivism, at that, it is just another form of progressivism.

[Silver Pines]

So the plan is to allow a Nazi-Satinist to gain power over us because the alternative isn't sufficiently Christian? 

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

@DiogenesLamp

I see your false characterization of Trump used all the time in an effort to try and justify supporting him.  The problem is not that he "isn't sufficiently Christian" or is flawed, etc.  Everyone is flawed and no one is "sufficiently" Christian.

The issue is that Trump is an amoral, pathologically lying, progressive sleaze.  If you want to convince yourself that he's somehow better than Hillary, go right ahead, but the facts say otherwise, and you can say Hillary is a Satanist (any evidence or another conspiracy theory?) but the truth is that Trump is just as evil in the Biblical sense. 

Trump is on video saying he is "very pro-choice" and would do nothing to stop the practice of partial-birth abortion.  If you need a reminder, that's the practice of driving scissors into the skulls of infants and vacuuming out their brains.  There is no way in hell I'll support a man who ever said such a thing.

Trump openly used the Bible as a prop to lie about his supposed "Christianity" to the gullible and desperate even though Ben Carson acknowledged that he's little more than an atheist.  He owns strip clubs...if he's been converted to Christianity, why hasn't he rid himself of them?

He seems unnaturally preoccupied with his daughter's "hot body".  Yesterday I ran across an article in Rolling Stone in which he said, "Hey, if I weren't a married man and her father..."  So yes, there's something very sick going on there.  I don't mean incest, but I mean in Trump's brain.  He's disordered, and he's disgusting.  I also found a link which would take me to a Howard Stern interview where he mused about anal sex.  I didn't have the stomach to read it.

I'm sorry, but if you believe any good result could come from electing such a man to lead this country, you are deluding yourself.  The same is true if you think God expects us to, or would be tolerant of supporting him.   

If Trump had a "D" behind his name, many of the people cheering him on now would excoriate him for being a moral sewer.  But put the "R" there instead, and all of a sudden his dirt undergoes a magic whitewash.

I'm not buying it.  I fear God more than I fear Hillary Clinton.

[Jazzhead]

Not voting for Trump has nothing to do with Christianity.

Some of us simply can't vote for crazy.

Bingo.  The Presidency's too important to hand over to crazy.   

[Night Hides Not]

Thanks for the reinforcement and reminder why I oppose Trump. I almost had second thoughts for a few seconds with Pence's debate thinking about at least getting him second in line would be good....


....but then this article reminded me about the disturbing trend on the right and even among Christians, looking to the government to be their savior and white knight and placing their hopes for change in a golden calf instead of God....

That is just as bad as progressivism, at that, it is just another form of progressivism.

Atlas Shrugged is now nonfiction. Trump is Mr. Thompson, Hillary is Ma Chalmers.

[Silver Pines]

Thanks for the reinforcement and reminder why I oppose Trump. I almost had second thoughts for a few seconds with Pence's debate thinking about at least getting him second in line would be good....


....but then this article reminded me about the disturbing trend on the right and even among Christians, looking to the government to be their savior and white knight and placing their hopes for change in a golden calf instead of God....  Christian Conservatives have been replacing God with Government and they have been creating their own demise. They don't need to look to the left, they need to look in a mirror.

That is just as bad as progressivism, at that, it is just another form of progressivism.

@AbaraXas

Exactly.