Nothing that Happened Today Changed Anything

[AnybodyButaDem]

Trump has gotten more percentage delegates at the ballot box than he's gotten votes. It's obvious he's benefiting from a rigged system perpetrated by the insidious and nefarious GOPe that he's secretly in league with.

Is he gonna give back some of those WTA delegates to Cruz or not?

Well yeah.  Some states are winner take all.  You know, like the general election.  That's the dumbest argument I've heard yet.  Duh!

This isn't rocket science.

[Free Vulcan]

Well yeah.  Some states are winner take all.  You know, like the general election.  That's the dumbest argument I've heard yet.  Duh!

This isn't rocket science.

You mean Trump has been benefiting by the RULES, just like Cruz has?

You know some states do electoral college proportionally, by congressional district? They all could do that if they choose.

[wolfcreek]

I put this post out as a feeler for who here will be responcible for another President Clinton. Chances are there won't be another free election if she gets her way.

You principled souls will seal your own fates by being the by-standers once more.

[alicewonders]

I put this post out as a feeler for who here will be responcible for another President Clinton. Chances are there won't be another free election if she gets her way.

You principled souls will seal your own fates by being the by-standers once more.

Hear!  Hear!

 

[truth_seeker]

I have never seen anything, other than the "gut feel" of Trumpsters, that show that Trump can even get close to winning the White House in November. Nothing.

Prevailing over 16 Republican primary opponents means nothing to you?

I will explain. the mood of the electorate was decidedly "outsider" and Trump is taking that to the finish-line.

Starting as a novelty, in the minds of the pros, he has proved he can go head to head and win.

Listening to Rush say he was wrong, 24 hours ago. He called it a "Tsunami," Trump winning every county in every state. Nobody predicted.   

[austingirl]

At this point Kasich is nothing but a spoiler for Cruz. That is shameful but no surprise since he is liberal son-of-a-mailman.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Prevailing over 16 Republican primary opponents means nothing to you?

I will explain. the mood of the electorate was decidedly "outsider" and Trump is taking that to the finish-line.

Starting as a novelty, in the minds of the pros, he has proved he can go head to head and win.

Listening to Rush say he was wrong, 24 hours ago. He called it a "Tsunami," Trump winning every county in every state. Nobody predicted.

Doesn't mean nothing. It shows he can appeal to the GOP primary voters, how will he reach all the other demographics we need?

[sinkspur]

Prevailing over 16 Republican primary opponents means nothing to you?

I will explain. the mood of the electorate was decidedly "outsider" and Trump is taking that to the finish-line.

Starting as a novelty, in the minds of the pros, he has proved he can go head to head and win.

Listening to Rush say he was wrong, 24 hours ago. He called it a "Tsunami," Trump winning every county in every state. Nobody predicted.

Primaries do not translate to the general election.  Trump loses in ALL 19 OF THE LATEST POLLS to Hillary.

[Jazzhead]

I put this post out as a feeler for who here will be responcible for another President Clinton. Chances are there won't be another free election if she gets her way.

You principled souls will seal your own fates by being the by-standers once more.

No one here wants Hillary.   But a megalomaniacal fascist is likely worse.  Obama has shown what damage can be done by a President who thinks like a dictator.   And now the Trumpsters want to double down on that model, and to hell with the Constitution.

You can't present conservatives and constitutionalists with a choice between a criminal and a fascist and expect us to bend over and toss our principles aside simply because Trump managed to weasel the "Republican" nomination.  Why should I remain loyal to the GOP when it puts up such a dangerous individual?

This election will be a choice between two evils.    Some will try to discern the lesser of those two evils and vote accordingly.  Others will say a pox on both their houses.   

 

[Jazzhead]

Primaries do not translate to the general election.  Trump loses in ALL 19 OF THE LATEST POLLS to Hillary.

True fact.   But the Trumpsters' eyes are blinded.   They are a cult.     

[Bigun]

Any child inherently understands if he goes to the ice cream shop and orders strawberry he will not get chocolate.  Thats simply reality. Likewise, any thinking individual cannot logically conclude they will recieve x by putting their support behind Y. The world does not and never has worked that way. To think one gets something by supporting it's opposite is literally madness.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,202939.msg852739.html#msg852739

[bolobaby]

I put this post out as a feeler for who here will be responcible for another President Clinton. Chances are there won't be another free election if she gets her way.

You principled souls will seal your own fates by being the by-standers once more.

You know who is responsible for the holocaust? Switzerland! That's right! By your logic, it's true!

Those damn Swiss should pay reparations to the Jews.

(Oh - and for the record - it Hillary ever tried to take away free elections, no principled conservative would be a bystander. I would personally exercise my 2nd Amendment right for the express purpose it was created. Not sure what the Trumpettes might do except sit around and let *us* fight for conservative principles... kind of like they are doing now by supporting this charlatan instead of a real conservative.)

[truth_seeker]

Doesn't mean nothing. It shows he can appeal to the GOP primary voters, how will he reach all the other demographics we need?

Just one example: Cruz takes a "no exceptions" stand on abortion. Wife, daughter, sister gets raped--Cruz says tough luck, lady. You should be forbidden by law from aborting the unwanted product of your rape.

Trump favors exceptions, and therefore Trump is more acceptable to the majority of women, on this issue. The "no exceptions" stand is approved by only 22% of those surveyed by Gallup.

Just one example. Go ahead, and dismiss this, but if Cruz were to be the candidate, bet that the dems would continually point out this example of his extreme positions.

So yes, something did happen that changed things. What changed was the elimination of the chance for an extreme social conservative.

[bilo]

Ha - I won't give up even *if* he gets the nomination. I'll write in Cruz.

#NeverTrump means Never. Trump.

I'm not going to have someone lord a Trump vote over my head later if he wins the general and betrays conservatives every day in the White House. I'll be able to say, "I voted for Cruz with clear conscience." If Hillary wins because of it, it will be the Trumpettes own fault. We *told* you we would not support him. Did you NOT believe us? If you did believe us, why didn't you rally around a conservative we could all support? Someone, you know, that we actually lionized as a conservative champion before Trump's smear campaign started?

Vote Trump, get Justice Kennedy in the White House.

Vote Cruz, get Justice Scalia in the White House.

Beautiful! Well said.

Never Trump does mean never Trump.

As far as the threat about losing the SCOTUS for a generation I always ask when did we have the SCOTUS. Roberts ruling on obamacare made it pretty clear individual liberty means nothing to them.

[bilo]

He lost me after he bashed Walker's gubanatorial record. If you can't applaud what Walker did, you stand for nothing I want to be part of.

Walker sure is a hero of conservatism. He took principals we preached for a generation and put them into action. He fought off incredible forces trying to undo everything he put into place and now because of his efforts we see that the principals of conservatism work.

[XenaLee]

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/04/26/nothing-happened-today-changed-anything/

Problem is....I sincerely doubt that Kasich will quit.  He's in it for the convention, as is Cruz at this point.  Trump fans will squeal fraud if/when it goes to contested status and the process will play out as it historically has....according to da rules.  After which, the GOP will have been successfully destroyed 'from within' via Donald Trump's candidacy, as planned and per the leftist agenda to get Hillary in the WH come hell or high water, whichever comes first.  (just my two cents)

[bilo]

Just one example: Cruz takes a "no exceptions" stand on abortion. Wife, daughter, sister gets raped--Cruz says tough luck, lady. You should be forbidden by law from aborting the unwanted product of your rape.

Trump favors exceptions, and therefore Trump is more acceptable to the majority of women, on this issue. The "no exceptions" stand is approved by only 22% of those surveyed by Gallup.

Just one example. Go ahead, and dismiss this, but if Cruz were to be the candidate, bet that the dems would continually point out this example of his extreme positions.

So yes, something did happen that changed things. What changed was the elimination of the chance for an extreme social conservative.

What you don't recognize is Cruz consistently states this is his position on abortion, but he believes this is an issue that should be resolved by the States, not the courts. So if you are part of a majority in a state that wants to have the right to end innocent life you can do it. The problem is the left knows it would be very difficult to legalize abortion anywhere with much more than a few exceptions, if that.

[A-Lert]

Gloat all you want, you'll need the anti-Trump's vote in November unless you want a Walter Mondale like electoral wipeout.

The anti-Trumps have denigrated, insulted and called Trump supporter vulgar names right here on this forum. The Trump supporters have stated that they would support or at least vote for the GOP nominee unlike the anti-Trump, sore losers who DGAS if Hillary gains the White House.

[A-Lert]

And you unprincipled souls have been trying to give us a nominee as bad as Hillary in areas, worse than Hillary in areas, and in no way acceptable in any area for many conservatives.
Chances are that there is not a more dangerous thing for our country than a demagogue molded in the fashion of trump, especially considering the ineptitude he shown in any business venture outside of real estate and his lack of investing the energy to learn about the major issues and his total lack of decency and character and yet his followers kneel before him.

As concerning the free election drama....baloney!

Speaking of "conservative principles" what happened to Cruz's when he decided to hook upmn with Kasich? 

[musiclady]

Problem is....I sincerely doubt that Kasich will quit.  He's in it for the convention, as is Cruz at this point.  Trump fans will squeal fraud if/when it goes to contested status and the process will play out as it historically has....according to da rules.  After which, the GOP will have been successfully destroyed 'from within' via Donald Trump's candidacy, as planned and per the leftist agenda to get Hillary in the WH come hell or high water, whichever comes first.  (just my two cents)

That is exactly how I see it, XenaLee.

Trump is doing what he's doing, destroying the Republican party and Conservatism from within, in order to pave the way to the WH for his good friend, Hillary, who shares his liberal views.

And, of course, he will scream bloody murder if the rules of the Convention are followed, because he's the ruler of all (in his own eyes) and has no need to follow rules................. and that includes that pesky Constitution...

btw, WELCOME to TBR.  (I LOVE your little kitty avatar!  ^-^ )

[A-Lert]

You bringing up conservative principles is like Trump bringing up Christianity. He needs to just keep saying Let's Make America Great Again because that is all he is capable of saying with his yuuge vocabulary and that is all his followers need to hear.

consider this a warning

[wolfcreek]

And you unprincipled souls have been trying to give us a nominee as bad as Hillary in areas, worse than Hillary in areas, and in no way acceptable in any area for many conservatives.
Chances are that there is not a more dangerous thing for our country than a demagogue molded in the fashion of trump, especially considering the ineptitude he shown in any business venture outside of real estate and his lack of investing the energy to learn about the major issues and his total lack of decency and character and yet his followers kneel before him.

As concerning the free election drama....baloney!

I'm very principled [ask around]and I voted for Cruz in the primary + his senate campaign. He's not going to get the nomination.

I see the writing on the wall that says TRUMP or CLINTON? Not some mystical nominee that the GOP will surprise everyone with at the last moment.

But if you nevertrump people fold like you have for Romney or even McCain, Hillary and that awful voice of hers will be telling you to turn in your guns and call me queen.

[ArneFufkin]

consider this a warning

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[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

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[LonestarDream]

Carly could bring in her California supporters.

Lets see how this plays out.

 

I'm very principled [ask around]and I voted for Cruz in the primary + his senate campaign. He's not going to get the nomination.

I see the writing on the wall that says TRUMP or CLINTON? Not some mystical nominee that the GOP will surprise everyone with at the last moment.

But if you nevertrump people fold like you have for Romney or even McCain, Hillary and that awful voice of hers will be telling you to turn in your guns and call me queen.