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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2500 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 04:27 am »
Iran halts military operations against Israel but threatens a restart

Iran's Khatam al-Anbiya military headquarters announced the end of hostilities against Israel on Monday just minutes after President Donald Trump demanded a ceasefire.

Iran's military says the ceasefire is conditional on Israel also halting its attacks, however, vowing to renew "severe and crushing" operations if attacks continue.

"Following the aggressions and evils of the brutal Zionist regime in South Lebanon and the Dahiya region, which took place with the support of the criminal America, the powerful armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran gave a painful response to this regime in order to support the oppressed people of Lebanon," the military wrote in a statement.

"On this basis, the cessation of armed forces operations is announced; But it is emphasized that if the aggressions and evils continue, including in the south of Lebanon, much more severe and crushing measures will be on the way," it continued.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2503 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 04:32 am »
You are delusional if you believe that is the only reason we are there.

You misunderstand.  We should pack up and leave Israel.   Nothing should prevent us from exploring other opportunities in the Middle East.

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« Reply #2504 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 05:15 am »
Ugggh....   Who knew that this is what a ceasefire/peace looked like in the middle east.....  It appears that Trump wants peace at any cost now.

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« Reply #2505 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 05:26 am »
Ugggh....   Who knew that this is what a ceasefire/peace looked like in the middle east.....  It appears that Trump wants peace at any cost now.

   If you think the ceasefire is bizarre wait till you see the Trump deal.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2506 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 05:27 am »
The really disturbing thing here is that Trump is now letting the Iranians link Lebanon and Hezbollah to any ceasefire or deal that he's trying to make with them, something he said he would NOT do last week.  No wonder the Israelis are so confused...Trump changes his mind and moves the goal posts every day!
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« Reply #2507 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 05:52 am »
The really disturbing thing here is that Trump is now letting the Iranians link Lebanon and Hezbollah to any ceasefire or deal that he's trying to make with them, something he said he would NOT do last week.  No wonder the Israelis are so confused...Trump changes his mind and moves the goal posts every day!
There have to be things going on behind the curtain that we are unaware of.  If Trump was truly this chaotic you'd think there would be massive leaks from his administration and you really aren't hearing that.  Even the Israeli's would be screaming bloody murder.

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« Reply #2508 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 05:57 am »
There have to be things going on behind the curtain that we are unaware of.  If Trump was truly this chaotic you'd think there would be massive leaks from his administration and you really aren't hearing that.  Even the Israeli's would be screaming bloody murder.

Have you noticed who we haven't heard a peep from lately?  The Shah.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2510 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:01 am »
Trump seeks to tie Netanyahu’s hands, as the partnership that went to war 100 days ago collapses
Telling Israel it had better not respond to an Iranian missile attack, the US president — desperate for a deal with the devilish Tehran regime — presented the PM with a stark dilemma

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Today, 2:53 am

One hundred days after they went to war together to thwart Iran’s rogue nuclear weapons program, radically degrade its ballistic missile industry, end its support for the Hezbollah and Hamas terror armies, and create the conditions for the fall of the regime, the US-Israel alliance against the Islamic Republic on Sunday reached its nadir.

With its north battered relentlessly by Hezbollah in recent weeks, Israel resorted to a largely symbolic strike on the terror group’s Dahiyeh stronghold in Beirut, reportedly without telling the disapproving Trump administration ahead of time that it was doing so.

And, as it had warned it would, Iran responded by firing about 10 missiles at northern Israel — again sending that sector of the country rushing to bomb shelters, though causing no injuries or damage.

But as Israel prepared to “respond forcefully” against Iran, in the words of an unnamed senior Israeli official, US President Donald Trump ordered it to think again.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2511 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:03 am »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2512 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:06 am »
If your neighbor was assembling a nuclear weapon to wipe out your entire country wouldn't you try to stop them and maybe even get your friends to help?

Yes, of course.  And, we've answered that clarion call.   We should have gone home right after .....

... Because now, Netanyahu wants the US to take out all Iranian missiles and Hezbollah soldiers and weapons --- and to this, I say "enough".   Netanyahu can use his own "best trained military" and credit card to accomplish this. 

Time for us to toot and wave, baby, toot and wave.   :seeya:

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« Reply #2513 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:07 am »
Eight locations the US should be hitting right now:




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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2514 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:18 am »

With its north battered relentlessly by Hezbollah in recent weeks, Israel resorted to a largely symbolic strike on the terror group’s Dahiyeh stronghold in Beirut, reportedly without telling the disapproving Trump administration ahead of time that it was doing so.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-ties-israels-hands-as-the-partnership-that-went-to-war-100-days-ago-collapses/

Actually, Israel's been pretty busy .....

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Since April, Israel has carried out nearly 3,500 airstrikes and dropped hundreds of bombs across Lebanon, including an attack on April 8 where approximately 160 bombs were dropped within minutes.

The Lebanese Prime Minister's office reported that between April 17 and June 7, Israel conducted 3,491 airstrikes in addition to 407 controlled demolitions and razing operations.

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« Reply #2515 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:19 am »
For specific and ongoing updates on the conflict, you can follow the ⁠Council on Foreign Relations .  .  .

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« Reply #2516 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:30 am »
It was never a "partnership".

When someone approaches you to form a "partnership", run.  The person approaching you has champagne tastes on a beer budget.  They need you more than you need them.  They want to use your resources to achieve their objectives while you take on their costs and their risks.  They benefit, you incur a greater share of the costs.

To get rid of the Iran nuclear program, you need to get rid of the current regime and the IRGC.  The US and Israel don't have to go this alone.  Iran has no friends in the Persian Gulf.  There's more than one way to get rid of a regime.  This is when you need to guys in the basement of the CIA, Mossad, and regional intelligence agencies to do the voo doo they do, oh, so well.

Dropping bombs is not enough.  America does not have stomach for troops on the ground in, yet, another forever war and nation building campaign in the Near East.  Time to let the espionage spooks to use their dirty tricks to bring down the regime and IRGC from within.

It's time for an ol' fashioned Cold War style coup d'etat in Tehran.  Yes, that means backing a very, very bad man who has the ruthlessness for the task.  Forget a Neo-Con wet dream of a Western-style democracy in Iran.

To get rid of Iran's nukes, the world needs to get rid of the Iranian regime and the IRGC that keeps them in power.  Bombing didn't work, so time for plan B.  Could we see the return of exploding pagers, but this time in Tehran?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2517 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 09:05 am »
BUT....we are 2 hours from the best peace plan EVER!  :shrug:

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« Reply #2518 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 09:12 am »
BUT....we are 2 hours from the best peace plan EVER!  :shrug:

Better than the amazing one secured by Nevile Chamberlain?
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« Reply #2519 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 09:58 am »
Trump has never looked worse than his Iranian actions the past few weeks.

And I have been one of his stronger supporters of late.
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« Reply #2520 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 10:08 am »
Trump has never looked worse than his Iranian actions the past few weeks.

And I have been one of his stronger supporters of late.

I've gone from refusing to vote for him in 2016 to crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024 back to having little use for him in 2026.
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« Reply #2521 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 10:11 am »
I've gone from refusing to vote for him in 2016 to crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024 back to having little use for him in 2026.

Same here.  Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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« Reply #2522 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 10:25 am »
I've gone from refusing to vote for him in 2016 to crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024 back to having little use for him in 2026.
Agree 100%.  It's getting tougher and tougher to defend his actions to my leftist family. 

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« Reply #2523 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 10:37 am »
Many in here are judging Trump by his recent bizarre comments, his attitude towards Israel and his complacency towards Iran and rightfully so.

Something has definitely changed in him or with him and it is very unsettling.

Again, I really don't know what to make of all of it, but one thing is for certain, something is amiss.

Who are what changed him?? 
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« Reply #2524 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 10:46 am »
Many in here are judging Trump by his recent bizarre comments, his attitude towards Israel and his complacency towards Iran and rightfully so.

Something has definitely changed in him or with him and it is very unsettling.

Again, I really don't know what to make of all of it, but one thing is for certain, something is amiss.

Who are what changed him?? 


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« Reply #2525 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:08 am »
I'm a worn-out old man now but my brain still works enough to figure out what "Hold on! Help is on the way!" USED to mean!
I'm still in hopes that someone is funneling arms to the Iranian population, so they can fight for their freedom.  I'm hoping this is what Trump meant.

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« Reply #2526 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:09 am »
Many in here are judging Trump by his recent bizarre comments, his attitude towards Israel and his complacency towards Iran and rightfully so.

Something has definitely changed in him or with him and it is very unsettling.

Again, I really don't know what to make of all of it, but one thing is for certain, something is amiss.

Who are what changed him?? 


Whatever dirt that Putin has on him, the IRGC must have gotten a hold of it, too.
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« Reply #2527 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:16 am »
I've gone from refusing to vote for him in 2016 to crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020 and 2024 back to having little use for him in 2026.
I did not want o vote for him in 2016, but there was no way in hell that I would ever vote for a Democrat, especially cankles. Agree with you about 2020 and 2024, and I am having a hard time giving him the benefit of the doubt this last 2 weeks or so.
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« Reply #2528 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:26 am »
Turns out being President is a hard job... maybe even impossible, frankly. In certain situations at least.

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« Reply #2529 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:36 am »
At least someone is more concerned with taking these bastards out than with winning a Peace Prize for orchestrating a deal with a bunch of untrustworthy terrorists.



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« Reply #2530 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:39 am »
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U.S. Central Command says an F/A-18 Super Hornet struck and disabled the Palau flagged tanker Marivex in the Gulf of Oman after it attempted to proceed toward an Iranian port.

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« Reply #2531 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:40 am »
I did not want o vote for him in 2016, but there was no way in hell that I would ever vote for a Democrat, especially cankles. Agree with you about 2020 and 2024, and I am having a hard time giving him the benefit of the doubt this last 2 weeks or so.

Yes, more so these past couple of weeks have been rather puzzling.  He has become weakened. Age?? Health? Blackmail??

Perhaps we'll never know.
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« Reply #2532 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:43 am »
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« Reply #2533 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:01 pm »
Iran has a very strange way of portraying itself as a poor beaten defeated nation that only wants 'peace', as delusional Trump describes them.
Trump's delusional 'ceasefire' has stopped all aggressions in the Middle East. Trump's delusional quest for a mythical "deal" with 'talks' is going great.
Trump's first act as 'acting Prime Minister of Israel' as he declared himself to be, was to bomb Iran? That was an odd choice for Trump to make.

Trump's delusional statement that Israel defending itself from Hezbollah, and Iran showering Israel with missiles was just kids having "fun", demonstrates how far away from reality Trump has become.

He refuses to listen to his Military and Political advisors because Trump has a delusional view of himself as a divine Angle of Peace, who has the magic ability to win over Satan himself with the power of his almighty miraculous 'DEAL', which Trump's delusions imagine will cure all ills, end all wars, and bring eternal peace to all mankind.

Trump really has gone way out there. He is starting to believe that he really is the King of the World by his own words.
Iran will do what I say. They have no choice. Trump said this.
Israel will do what I say. They have no choice. Trump said this.

I love Trump, and I support Trump. I always have. But these are not statements a rational person would say. Vance/Rubio for example, would never say anything like this. Something happened to him. Something changed him. Chuck Norris never actually believed all the jokes about him. I think Trump does.

I think Trump believes he can change nations and the world by sheer force of will and nothing more than a 'good deal'. This is delusional thinking.
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Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2535 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:07 pm »
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This is a letter that awaited the Israeli fighters of Battalion 9260 in a house in Lebanon:

We are christian, and we Love you and we thank for emptying Lebanon from the yellow (Hezbollah).

Please keep our houses because no one [will] help us to rebuild. We have children and no money and now we need to leave [to be] safe. Please let us [come] back. Thank you.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2536 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:12 pm »
Many in here are judging Trump by his recent bizarre comments, his attitude towards Israel and his complacency towards Iran and rightfully so.

Something has definitely changed in him or with him and it is very unsettling.

Again, I really don't know what to make of all of it, but one thing is for certain, something is amiss.

Who are what changed him?? 


again, Ivanka, a hard core NYC Dem, who ruined 45's Presidency and is setting about ruining 47's.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2537 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:14 pm »
I'm still in hopes that someone is funneling arms to the Iranian population, so they can fight for their freedom.  I'm hoping this is what Trump meant.

The only arms the Persians get are from captured IRGC and Baji troops. The arms smuggling dead ended with the Kurds who kept the weapons as pay back for previous US betrayals.
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« Reply #2538 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:28 pm »
The only arms the Persians get are from captured IRGC and Baji troops. The arms smuggling dead ended with the Kurds who kept the weapons as pay back for previous US betrayals.
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« Reply #2539 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 12:37 pm »
The only arms the Persians get are from captured IRGC and Baji troops. The arms smuggling dead ended with the Kurds who kept the weapons as pay back for previous US betrayals.

I know George W Bush gets a lot of flak on this board.  But at least he understood that the relationship needed to be righted first before proceeding with an assumption that the weapons would have ended up where demanded.  We had screwed the Turks over in the first Gulf War.  When Bush asked for their help the second go, they reminded him of the cash they were promised a decade earlier that never got there.  Bush honored America's word by paying the money with no expectation they would help in 2002.  He repaired the relationship.  Trump should have done that first with the Kurds instead of expecting them to carry our water.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2540 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 02:25 pm »
‘Each of them had their fun. Israel had its strike and Iran had its strike. We don’t need another one,’ Mr Trump said.
Trump described the attack - the first Iranian strikes on Israeli soil since April - as 'unhelpful' to the peace process and called for calm between the two nations.

Trump has gone off the rails. Describing war as 'fun' is idiotic, insulting, and condescending to every soldier everywhere who has served.
Equating Israel DEFENDING ITSELF FROM IRAN/HEZBOLLAH ATTACKS as 'fun' as an unprovoked strike on Lebanon is simply retarded.




Totally agree. Truthfully, even I was offended by his rhetoric. These aren't two children fighting over a toy.
Trump is making a moral equivalence between what Iran/Hezbollah are doing to Israel and what Israel is doing in defense. This is pure ignorance.
 
Trump seems to be unable to differentiate between defending civilians from attacks, and unprovoked aggression from Iran/Hezbollah.
Israel would be nowhere near Lebanon if Hezbollah had not launched thousands of missiles at them. Trump's words are lunacy.
Trump is speaking to Israel and Iran like a teacher speaks to little children. He has ho idea how much the Iranian regime is laughing at his nievete.

Trump is Great with domestic issues. But he should leave warfighting to the military. Trump is a lost and confused lamb when it comes to war.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2541 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 04:32 pm »
It was never a "partnership".

When someone approaches you to form a "partnership", run.  The person approaching you has champagne tastes on a beer budget.  They need you more than you need them.  They want to use your resources to achieve their objectives while you take on their costs and their risks.  They benefit, you incur a greater share of the costs.

To get rid of the Iran nuclear program, you need to get rid of the current regime and the IRGC.  The US and Israel don't have to go this alone.  Iran has no friends in the Persian Gulf.  There's more than one way to get rid of a regime.  This is when you need to guys in the basement of the CIA, Mossad, and regional intelligence agencies to do the voo doo they do, oh, so well.

Dropping bombs is not enough.  America does not have stomach for troops on the ground in, yet, another forever war and nation building campaign in the Near East.  Time to let the espionage spooks to use their dirty tricks to bring down the regime and IRGC from within.

It's time for an ol' fashioned Cold War style coup d'etat in Tehran.  Yes, that means backing a very, very bad man who has the ruthlessness for the task.  Forget a Neo-Con wet dream of a Western-style democracy in Iran.

To get rid of Iran's nukes, the world needs to get rid of the Iranian regime and the IRGC that keeps them in power.  Bombing didn't work, so time for plan B.  Could we see the return of exploding pagers, but this time in Tehran?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2542 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 07:52 pm »
The really disturbing thing here is that Trump is now letting the Iranians link Lebanon and Hezbollah to any ceasefire or deal that he's trying to make with them, something he said he would NOT do last week.

Why do you think since April Trump's been telling Netanyahu to uphold the ceasefire ---- even if it's difficult?  Trump's used every communication avenue and messaging approach hoping Netanyahu could see beyond his own reflection and stand down ---- not forever, but for now.

Yet, even the overwhelming majority here expressed opinions that Netanyahu has the right to decide for Israel, Trump's preferences and reasoning be damned.

So, yes, the Iranians are now linking Hezbollah and Lebanon to the peace deal, complicating it further----- but, thank Netanyahu for tossing this gift to the Mullahs, not Trump.


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2543 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 08:23 pm »
I think Trump believes he can change nations and the world by sheer force of will and nothing more than a 'good deal'. This is delusional thinking.

You still don't get it.  Sometimes you come close, but scutter away as though it's too physically hot to even consider. 

This is the President's POV regarding war in the Middle East: 

Trump's thinking outside the box .... trying to prevent another ME generation from fighting the same damn war.  You don't do this by sending in the usual clowns to rehash the same worn out playbook and proposals.

Trump's trying to move the region from the battlefield to new alliances forged in the arena of global commerce.

Let Trump be Trump ---  He's not trying to herd cats, he's trying to remold a bastion of tribal animosities. 

Sincerely wish him luck.  This could be his finest hour --- and ours.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2544 on: Monday, Jun 08, 2026 11:37 pm »
You still don't get it.  Sometimes you come close, but scutter away as though it's too physically hot to even consider. 

This is the President's POV regarding war in the Middle East: 

Trump's thinking outside the box .... trying to prevent another ME generation from fighting the same damn war.  You don't do this by sending in the usual clowns to rehash the same worn out playbook and proposals.

Trump's trying to move the region from the battlefield to new alliances forged in the arena of global commerce.

Let Trump be Trump ---  He's not trying to herd cats, he's trying to remold a bastion of tribal animosities. 

Sincerely wish him luck.  This could be his finest hour --- and ours.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2545 on: Today at 01:17 am »
You still don't get it.  Sometimes you come close, but scutter away as though it's too physically hot to even consider. 

This is the President's POV regarding war in the Middle East: 

Trump's thinking outside the box .... trying to prevent another ME generation from fighting the same damn war.  You don't do this by sending in the usual clowns to rehash the same worn out playbook and proposals.

Trump's trying to move the region from the battlefield to new alliances forged in the arena of global commerce.

Let Trump be Trump ---  He's not trying to herd cats, he's trying to remold a bastion of tribal animosities. 

Sincerely wish him luck.  This could be his finest hour --- and ours.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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‘Israel may not like that’: Touting potential ‘home run’ deal, Vance says key US objective is preventing Iran from getting nukes

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-may-not-like-that-touting-potential-home-run-deal-vance-says-key-us-objective-is-preventing-iran-from-getting-nukes/

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US Vice President JD Vance says the United States and Israel “have a lot of shared interests, but we also have some situations where our interests diverge,” as Fox News host Jesse Waters begins an interview by asking him how “concerned are you about Israel spying on the United States and freelancing in Lebanon?”

“I think where the president has been very clear here is that while Israel obviously has some objectives that it has, the United States’ main objective in Iran is to ensure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon,” Vance says, without actually addressing the questions posed to him.

Vance asserts that “over the last year and a half, we’ve created the space necessary where the president believes – and I think that he’s right – that we can get the long-term settlement to Iran’s nuclear deal.”

“Now, Israel may like that, they may not like that,” he adds. “But fundamentally, we think this is in the best interest of the United States of America.”

Asked if the Iranians are “trying to play” the US negotiators, Vance responds, “Everybody’s always trying to play everybody.”

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‘Israel may not like that’: Touting potential ‘home run’ deal, Vance says key US objective is preventing Iran from getting nukes

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Vance just lost me for good with this stupid, tin-eared nonsense.
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Link?

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He gave a press pool interview last night, and it's all over the international news this morning.  Just search for 'Vance' and 'Israel.'
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-may-not-like-that-touting-potential-home-run-deal-vance-says-key-us-objective-is-preventing-iran-from-getting-nukes/

He gave a press pool interview last night, and it's all over the international news this morning.  Just search for 'Vance' and 'Israel.'
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