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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2300 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 10:24 am »
Israel: Sirens in northern Israel due to Hezbollah rockets fired at IDF troops

Sirens sounded in northern Israel on Thursday after Hezbollah launched several rockets toward IDF soldiers operating in southern Lebanon, the Israeli military said, according to a Reuters alert.

The IDF did not immediately say whether the rockets were intercepted, caused damage or resulted in casualties.

The alert came after sirens earlier sounded in the northern Israeli area of Hanita over a suspected hostile aircraft infiltration. The IDF did not immediately provide further details on whether an aircraft or drone had entered Israeli airspace.


https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/2062522183117615587

The latest launches come as Hezbollah rejected a U.S.-mediated ceasefire plan agreed to by the Lebanese and Israeli governments. The plan would require the Iran-backed group to stop firing and evacuate fighters from areas of southern Lebanon near the border.

Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem dismissed the agreement as “a roadmap for the annihilation of a section of the Lebanese people and the enslavement of the rest,” adding: “As long as the occupation exists, the resistance will continue.”

Reuters contributed to this report.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2301 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 10:42 am »
Israel: Sirens in northern Israel due to Hezbollah rockets fired at IDF troops

Sirens sounded in northern Israel on Thursday after Hezbollah launched several rockets toward IDF soldiers operating in southern Lebanon, the Israeli military said, according to a Reuters alert.

The IDF did not immediately say whether the rockets were intercepted, caused damage or resulted in casualties.

The alert came after sirens earlier sounded in the northern Israeli area of Hanita over a suspected hostile aircraft infiltration. The IDF did not immediately provide further details on whether an aircraft or drone had entered Israeli airspace.


https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/2062522183117615587

The latest launches come as Hezbollah rejected a U.S.-mediated ceasefire plan agreed to by the Lebanese and Israeli governments. The plan would require the Iran-backed group to stop firing and evacuate fighters from areas of southern Lebanon near the border.

Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem dismissed the agreement as “a roadmap for the annihilation of a section of the Lebanese people and the enslavement of the rest,” adding: “As long as the occupation exists, the resistance will continue.”

Reuters contributed to this report.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2302 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 10:57 am »
Apparently Israel is on their own as I'm not so sure if they are getting any support right now from the U.S.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2303 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 11:05 am »
Apparently Israel is on their own as I'm not so sure if they are getting any support right now from the U.S.

I don't think Israel is asking for support.  I wouldn't if I were them.  The US is notorious for being fickle.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2304 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 03:27 pm »
Apparently Israel is on their own as I'm not so sure if they are getting any support right now from the U.S.



And sadly Isreal will be demonized while defending themselves.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2305 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 03:54 pm »
Trump says he could meet Iran’s supreme leader ‘if it was to make a deal’

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/04/trump-iran-supreme-leader.html

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President Donald Trump on Thursday said he would be “honored” to meet Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei.

The U.S. president said he would meet the Iranian leader if a deal is reached to end the U.S.-Iran war, which has dragged on into its fourth month. Trump was taking questions from reporters in the Oval Office after making an announcement about coal.

“If we make a deal, it’s possible that I would meet,” he said. “I’d be okay with that.”

Khamenei was named the supreme leader in Iran after his father, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was killed on the first day of fighting.

Trump said that despite U.S.-Israeli strikes killing his father and other members of his family, he expects that Khamenei would be a “professional.”

“In some circles, he has a very good reputation, actually,” Trump said.


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Yep, the new Ayatollah is a fine, upstanding dude, his criminal deviance and jihadi regime aside!   *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2306 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 04:22 pm »
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2307 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:19 pm »

If there were multiple credible news agencies reporting similar data accusing Bibi of lying to Trump, it may be considered reliable information.  Funny how Trump's current advisors norTrump himself have accused Bibi of lying.

Trump is CIC and made the decision to bomb Iran.  He also made the decision to suddenly halt the attacks. :shrug:
Trump halted the attacks at the exact wrong time and against the advice of ALL the military advisors I saw speaking about it.
Essentially, Trump saved the Iranian regime in the nick of time and he betrayed Israel the Iranian people protesting.

Trump has since spoken of meeting with, and making a deal with the Ayatollah, and has condemned his only wartime ally, Israel.
Once Trump saw the U.S. was on the cusp of victory, he stopped everything immediately and then did a complete reversal of his stances on Iran and Israel.

I am MAGA. I have always supported Trump. But it could not be more obvious that the TACO people were right. When things got serious and Iran was about to be overthrown, Trump chickened out in the eleventh hour. That is the very definition of TACO.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2308 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:24 pm »
Iranian lawmakers ask Mojtaba Khamenei to greenlight missiles that could reach US: report

Iranian lawmakers have asked Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei to agree to the development of intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, according to reports.

Citing Iran’s Asriran newspaper, The Jerusalem Post reported Thursday that a letter to Khamenei was signed by 85 officials who expressed skepticism about Washington’s role in ceasefire negotiations.

Analysts at the Institute for the Study of War also interpreted the letter as a call for missiles capable of reaching the United States.

Former Israeli national security adviser Yaakov Amidror told the outlet that any favorable economic terms in talks with Washington could provide Tehran with the resources needed to pursue such a capability.

The letter was also signed by several Iranian hard-liners, including former Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, who has opposed negotiations with the United States, the outlet said.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2309 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:26 pm »
US urges citizens in Middle East to exercise 'increased caution,' know shelter locations


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2310 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:27 pm »
Trump: I’d meet Khamenei ‘respectfully,’ though I'm ‘not his favorite person’

President Donald Trump said Thursday that he would be willing to meet with Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei if ongoing negotiations between Washington and Tehran produce a deal, saying he would approach any meeting with respect despite any differences.

Trump’s remarks came amid ongoing negotiations with Tehran, where Khamenei appears to have become more involved.

Asked by Fox News' senior White House Correspondent Peter Doocy about meeting the Iranian leader in the United States, Trump said, "I'd be honored to meet him."

“I'd like to see if we make a deal. But if we make a deal, it's possible that I would meet him. I'd be okay with that,” he added before stating that if they did meet, he would be:

“Respectful.”

“Well, I would say I'm not his favorite person,” Trump added.

“But with that being said, he's probably a professional in some circles,” Trump said.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2311 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:50 pm »
Trump halted the attacks at the exact wrong time and against the advice of ALL the military advisors I saw speaking about it.
Essentially, Trump saved the Iranian regime in the nick of time and he betrayed Israel the Iranian people protesting.

Trump has since spoken of meeting with, and making a deal with the Ayatollah, and has condemned his only wartime ally, Israel.
Once Trump saw the U.S. was on the cusp of victory, he stopped everything immediately and then did a complete reversal of his stances on Iran and Israel.

I am MAGA. I have always supported Trump. But it could not be more obvious that the TACO people were right. When things got serious and Iran was about to be overthrown, Trump chickened out in the eleventh hour. That is the very definition of TACO.

Everything that you say is true.  I have always supported Trump as well, but something is amiss.  IMHO it is not truly in his character to stop when he could have won very easily. He likes winning and always has. It is not in his character to disregard Israel as our ally. He and Bibi have for the most part have always gotten along and had each other's back.

I don't know what happened, but he did an abrupt about face for a reason.  I don't think the abrupt halt was planned nor foreseen by him ...as I said something is amiss and to me things just don't add up.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2312 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:52 pm »
Trump: I’d meet Khamenei ‘respectfully,’ though I'm ‘not his favorite person’

President Donald Trump said Thursday that he would be willing to meet with Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei if ongoing negotiations between Washington and Tehran produce a deal, saying he would approach any meeting with respect despite any differences.

Trump’s remarks came amid ongoing negotiations with Tehran, where Khamenei appears to have become more involved.

Asked by Fox News' senior White House Correspondent Peter Doocy about meeting the Iranian leader in the United States, Trump said, "I'd be honored to meet him."

“I'd like to see if we make a deal. But if we make a deal, it's possible that I would meet him. I'd be okay with that,” he added before stating that if they did meet, he would be:

“Respectful.”

“Well, I would say I'm not his favorite person,” Trump added.

“But with that being said, he's probably a professional in some circles,” Trump said.
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Meeting face to face with Khamenei??? I hope maybe Wiles, Hegseth, Rubio or may be his son Don Jr., talks him out of that.  Definitely a terrible idea.
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« Reply #2313 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 05:53 pm »
Everything that you say is true.  I have always supported Trump as well, but something is amiss.  IMHO it is not truly in his character to stop when he could have won very easily. He likes winning and always has. It is not in his character to disregard Israel as our ally. He and Bibi have for the most part have always gotten along and had each other's back.

I don't know what happened, but he did an abrupt about face for a reason.  I don't think the abrupt halt was planned nor foreseen by him ...as I said something is amiss and to me things just don't add up.
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« Reply #2314 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 08:41 pm »
I have always supported Trump as well, but something is amiss.  IMHO it is not truly in his character to stop when he could have won very easily.

IMO, here's the rub @libertybele   It turns out the victory would likely not have been easy .... even though the  Iranian regime was presented as weakened and near collapse, it is not.  It's quite possible the reality is further US military action would need significant boots on the ground and a steeper, longer commitment of time, money and nation rebuilding.   I give Trump credit for taking the political hits as he stands for and protects American interests first. 

Still, I can't help but wish Trump had all the information from the US fact checking of Netanyahu's and Mossad's claims made in their presentation ---- before round two started.  :shrug:







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« Reply #2315 on: Thursday, Jun 04, 08:46 pm »
Meeting face to face with Khamenei??? I hope maybe Wiles, Hegseth, Rubio or may be his son Don Jr., talks him out of that.  Definitely a terrible idea.

Why?  It worked wonders with Little Rocket Man.

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« Reply #2316 on: Friday, Jun 05, 03:04 am »
Why?  It worked wonders with Little Rocket Man

Really? Based on what, exactly?

North Korea is still hostile to its neighbors, still pursues nukes ( now they're building nuclear submarines that can launch their missiles!!), and still builds ICBMs

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2317 on: Friday, Jun 05, 04:13 am »
Trump says he could meet Iran’s supreme leader ‘if it was to make a deal’

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/04/trump-iran-supreme-leader.html

EXCERPT

Yep, the new Ayatollah is a fine, upstanding dude, his criminal deviance and jihadi regime aside!   *****rollingeyes*****


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“In some circles, Khamenei has a very good reputation, actually,” Trump said.

Those circles being Iranian politicians, the IRGC, other mullahs, and of course Kershner & Witkoff.
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The delusion is strong in that one, Obie
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Trump halted the attacks at the exact wrong time and against the advice of ALL the military advisors I saw speaking about it.
Essentially, Trump saved the Iranian regime in the nick of time and he betrayed Israel the Iranian people protesting.

Trump has since spoken of meeting with, and making a deal with the Ayatollah, and has condemned his only wartime ally, Israel.
Once Trump saw the U.S. was on the cusp of victory, he stopped everything immediately and then did a complete reversal of his stances on Iran and Israel.

I am MAGA. I have always supported Trump. But it could not be more obvious that the TACO people were right. When things got serious and Iran was about to be overthrown, Trump chickened out in the eleventh hour. That is the very definition of TACO.

Which, despite all the current hoopla, 47 will be a minor footnote in US history. Unless Iran nukes us, then in his continued delusional state, he will become the worst President ever.
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« Reply #2320 on: Friday, Jun 05, 04:32 am »
Iranian lawmakers ask Mojtaba Khamenei to greenlight missiles that could reach US: report

Iranian lawmakers have asked Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei to agree to the development of intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, according to reports.

Citing Iran’s Asriran newspaper, The Jerusalem Post reported Thursday that a letter to Khamenei was signed by 85 officials who expressed skepticism about Washington’s role in ceasefire negotiations.

Analysts at the Institute for the Study of War also interpreted the letter as a call for missiles capable of reaching the United States.

Former Israeli national security adviser Yaakov Amidror told the outlet that any favorable economic terms in talks with Washington could provide Tehran with the resources needed to pursue such a capability.

The letter was also signed by several Iranian hard-liners, including former Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, who has opposed negotiations with the United States, the outlet said.
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Green light to copy and develop the North Korean ICBM example they obtained; could be anything from the liquid road mobile Hwasong-14 to the solid fueled Hwasong-18 with surprise deployment from a transporter erector launcher, with ranges from 10400km to >15,000km respectively. The H-18 gives them enough range to hit any city within the US.

There is absolutely no deal 47 can make with the Mad Mullahs that will be good for America with those sorts of ICBMs in their future.
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« Reply #2321 on: Friday, Jun 05, 04:33 am »
Everything that you say is true.  I have always supported Trump as well, but something is amiss.  IMHO it is not truly in his character to stop when he could have won very easily. He likes winning and always has. It is not in his character to disregard Israel as our ally. He and Bibi have for the most part have always gotten along and had each other's back.

I don't know what happened, but he did an abrupt about face for a reason.  I don't think the abrupt halt was planned nor foreseen by him ...as I said something is amiss and to me things just don't add up.


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« Reply #2322 on: Friday, Jun 05, 05:10 am »
Iran war ‘will end only when it ends in Lebanon as well,’ foreign minister says

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Friday that "this war will end only when it ends in Lebanon as well," according to Reuters.

"The end of the war on Lebanon must be accompanied by the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the territories they have occupied," Araghchi was quoted as saying to Lebanese TV station Al Mayadeen.

The remarks come after Hezbollah rejected a U.S.-brokered ceasefire deal between Lebanon and Israel.

"Today we again warn this sinister regime to leave Lebanon. They should know that Lebanon will be an inseparable part of any agreement and any ceasefire,” Mohsen Rezaei, an adviser to Iran's supreme leader, also told the Mehr news agency, according to Reuters.

The Israel Defense Forces have been continuing military activity against Hezbollah in recent weeks in response to attacks from the Iran-backed terrorist group.

Rezaei reportedly added that Hezbollah "made great sacrifices in the recent war and it is our ally,” and, “therefore, we support Hezbollah and remain firmly committed to our obligations toward it."
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« Reply #2323 on: Friday, Jun 05, 05:13 am »
Only US, China can retrieve enriched uranium from Iran's 'obliterated' nuclear sites, says Trump

President Trump said Thursday that only the U.S. and China can retrieve enriched uranium from Iran’s buried nuclear sites, adding that the facilities were so badly damaged by strikes that recovering anything would be difficult.

“We attacked their nuclear sites and they were obliterated,” he told reporters in the Oval Office.

“It turned out that, you know, CNN was wrong. They said, ‘Well, maybe they weren’t hit that hard.’ They were hit so hard, nobody knows if you could even get it out,” he added.

Trump went on to argue that only the U.S. and China have the equipment capable of reaching it.

“But the only ones that have the capability of getting it out are us and China,” Trump said.

“We’re the only ones with that kind of equipment that’s powerful enough to go down that deep into a mountain, but that mountain crushed it.”

“That mountain literally collapsed on top of it.”

Referring to assessments by the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA, he said the agency agreed.

“And now the atomic energy, as you know, has backed us up on that. They think it’s a very, very hard thing to get to, but we’ll get it anyway. But we’re the only ones — and China, I believe, does, too — that have the capability,” he said.

Yesterday's Fox News Digital live blog offers additional coverage of the conflict with Iran.
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« Reply #2324 on: Friday, Jun 05, 05:16 am »

IVANKA ... and Jared.

That is a possibility especially with Ivanka being threatened and a target, though the one who threatened her has been indicted.  Her opinion has always been considered by Trump but IMO unlikely influenced his decision.  Jared and Witcoff's last negotiations were cancelled and it was around that time that further attacks stopped.  Jared is a snake and I've commented on him before, perhaps Trumps reasons for abruptly stopping the attacks have something to do with his advice, but I think there may be additional reasons.

Indicted terrorist commander allegedly spoke of wanting to target Ivanka Trump
Mohammad Al-Saadi was indicted on eight terrorism-related counts over his alleged role in attacks across Europe, Canada and the U.S.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/indicted-terrorist-commander-allegedly-spoke-targeting-ivanka-trump-rcna347461
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« Reply #2325 on: Friday, Jun 05, 05:22 am »
Only US, China can retrieve enriched uranium from Iran's 'obliterated' nuclear sites, says Trump

President Trump said Thursday that only the U.S. and China can retrieve enriched uranium from Iran’s buried nuclear sites, adding that the facilities were so badly damaged by strikes that recovering anything would be difficult.

“We attacked their nuclear sites and they were obliterated,” he told reporters in the Oval Office.

“It turned out that, you know, CNN was wrong. They said, ‘Well, maybe they weren’t hit that hard.’ They were hit so hard, nobody knows if you could even get it out,” he added.

Trump went on to argue that only the U.S. and China have the equipment capable of reaching it.

“But the only ones that have the capability of getting it out are us and China,” Trump said.

“We’re the only ones with that kind of equipment that’s powerful enough to go down that deep into a mountain, but that mountain crushed it.”

“That mountain literally collapsed on top of it.”

Referring to assessments by the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA, he said the agency agreed.

“And now the atomic energy, as you know, has backed us up on that. They think it’s a very, very hard thing to get to, but we’ll get it anyway. But we’re the only ones — and China, I believe, does, too — that have the capability,” he said.

Yesterday's Fox News Digital live blog offers additional coverage of the conflict with Iran.
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China may have the capabilities, but will the U.S. go in before China has the chance to retrieve Iran's uranium? I don't think that Trump is implying that China and US retrieve the uranium in tandem.  That would be a recipe for disaster.
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« Reply #2326 on: Friday, Jun 05, 08:17 am »
I don't know how reliable this news source is ... but for what it's worth....

Tensions in the Strait of Hormuz; Iran’s Military Fires Warning Shots at US Destroyers

Some domestic media outlets in Iran, citing the public relations office of the Islamic Republic’s Army, reported that, in continuation of what has been described as countering American “maritime harassment,” the Navy’s Qadir missiles and attack drones were fired as a “warning” toward several destroyers in the Sea of Oman.

The statement released by the Islamic Republic’s Army reads: “Following this action, the destroyers DDG-103 and DDG-87 left the Sea of Oman toward the Indian Ocean.” The Command Center of the Islamic Republic’s Army Navy also confirmed that longer-range missiles will be used if necessary.

The IRGC Navy has also announced that it has messaged ships to provide notification if they are carrying essential cargo, such as fuel and food items, so that their “security” while transiting the Strait of Hormuz can be secured and a transit schedule can be designed after “obtaining a permit.”

Concurrently, a reporter for the Islamic Republic’s state broadcaster, IRIB, reported that satellite imagery following the attacks of the past 48 hours shows that the US fleet, which intended to enter the Persian Gulf, has dispersed - an action that, according to this reporter, took place as a result of the operations by the Islamic Republic’s Army Navy.

Despite both Tehran and Washington emphasizing the non-violation of the ceasefire and the continuation of negotiations to reach a comprehensive agreement to end the military conflict, tensions continue in southern Iran and neighboring countries.

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Love the picture of the "Red White and Blue"

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Watch: US Forces Board Oil Tanker Carrying Iranian Crude In Indian Ocean


The Davina was sanctioned in 2024 by the US Treasury, which said it had delivered oil from Iran to China.


US forces boarded an oil tanker in the Indian Ocean overnight that was sanctioned by Washington for transporting Iranian crude, the US military said on Friday.

"US forces carried out a maritime interdiction and right-of-visit boarding of the sanctioned stateless vessel MT DAVINA located in the Indian Ocean," the US Indo-Pacific Command said in a post on X.

"We will continue global maritime enforcement to disrupt illicit networks and interdict vessels providing material support to Iran, wherever they operate," said the post, which included photos and a video clip of the operation................

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/watch-us-forces-board-oil-tanker-carrying-iranian-crude-in-indian-ocean-11597161
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Iran Draws Red Line, Sets New Condition For End To War

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Iran is signaling that any end to the fighting between Israel and the Iran-backed Hezbollah terror group will have to include terms for Lebanon, with top officials warning that Beirut cannot be left out of a ceasefire agreement.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Friday that “this war will end only when it ends in Lebanon as well,” according to Reuters.

“The end of the war on Lebanon must be accompanied by the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the territories they have occupied,” Araghchi was quoted as saying by Lebanese television station Al Mayadeen.

The comments come after Hezbollah rejected a U.S.-brokered ceasefire proposal aimed at ending the conflict between Lebanon and Israel.

Another senior Iranian official delivered a similar message, insisting that Lebanon must be part of any deal.

“Today we again warn this sinister regime to leave Lebanon. They should know that Lebanon will be an inseparable part of any agreement and any ceasefire,” Mohsen Rezaei, an adviser to Iran’s supreme leader, told the Mehr news agency, according to Reuters.

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Trump keeps insisting that he 'won the war' with Iran. Iran does not sound 'defeated' to me. Now Iran is bullying Trump and making demands to end the war which Trump claims Iran has already lost. There is nothing in Iran's continued threating rhetoric and behavior which would indicate that anything was changed in Iran by Epic Fury.

Now, Iran is making "demands" on the United States and Israel. The situation has reversed 180 degrees. Now Iran seems to be driving the so-called peace process and Trump seems to be appeasing them. So bizarre. Everything about Trump's behavior since he suddenly declared a so-called ceasefire out of the blue, has been upside down and backwards.

Trump went from Unconditional Surrender! and I will End Your Civilization!, to now taking demands from Iran. Nothing about this makes any sense at all.

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« Reply #2330 on: Friday, Jun 05, 01:45 pm »
Lil Kim played Trump real good!!

Nonsense.  ⬆️

The US military had been preparing for a "nuclear interaction" with North Korea since 2016.  Even Obama spent time filling in the President-elect on the details, cautioning war was imminent.

I wonder what could have changed Little Rocket Man's mind ....    wink777







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US military shoots down 4 Iranian drones heading toward Strait of Hormuz

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The U.S. military shot down four Iranian one-way attack drones Friday that were heading toward the Strait of Hormuz and posed an imminent threat to maritime traffic, according to the U.S. Central Command (Centcom).

The U.S. military then struck an Iranian coastal surveillance radar sites in Goruk, a city in Hormozgan province, and on Qeshm Island, an Iranian island in the Strait of Hormuz, to “defend against further attacks,” Centcom said.

“American forces remain vigilant and postured to respond to unjustified Iranian aggression in self-defense,” Centcom said.

The Trump administration has said it is in a ceasefire with Iran despite skirmishes with Tehran’s military on several occasions. On Tuesday, the U.S. military helped down multiple Iranian ballistic missiles and shot down several Tehran drones.

But President Trump warned earlier this week that if Iran kills U.S. troops, that would be a “good reason” to restart the war with Tehran.

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5912849-us-military-shoots-down-iranian-drones/

Trump has suddenly become Iran's biggest supporter and lobbyist. If we are to take Trump at his word (which is becoming increasingly hard to do), then he just gave Iran a greenlight to attack Israel and every other country as well as all the ships in the region. As long as they do not kill any U.S. troops then everything is just fine. Shoot anyone you want to and as long as no American's are involved, we are still partners in the mysterious nonexistent 'ceasefire' which Trump is so proud of.

Nobody (including Iran) believes Trump will ever restart the bombing no matter what Iran does. Iran is simply making fun of Trump at this point by making demands that he pressure Israel to stop defending their country from Hezbollah. And it looks like Trump is obeying and surrendering to Iranian demands.

I predict that Trump WILL PAY Iran all the hundreds of billions of dollars they are demanding before the 60 day pause is over. From what I can tell, Trump would give the Ayatollah a BJ, if the Ayatollah would agree to Trump's idiotic "DEAL" which everyone in the world knows Iran will simply ignore. Iran is just playing with Trump and stringing him along like a dumb patsy dupe. Iran is never going to adhere to any deal no matter how much "Art" Trump has.

When Epic Fury started and was being run by Generals and the military, America was steamrolling over Iran with no problem. Once Trump stopped it and started micromanaging it personally, that is when it all went to hell just like Vietnam. Politicians cannot stay out of war and allow the military to do their job as they are trained to do, because politicians always think they know better. Trump is going to give Iran "a glorious victory over the great Satan". Iran will be 10 times more dangerous than it ever was before.

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Moments ago, CENTCOM forces shot down four Iranian one-way attack drones that were launched toward the Strait of Hormuz. The attack drones posed an immediate threat to regional maritime traffic. U.S. forces subsequently struck Iranian coastal surveillance radar sites in Goruk and on Qeshm Island to defend against further attacks.

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Trump envoys reportedly met with nuclear experts in Tennessee as Iran talks intensify  **nononono* **nononono* **nononono*

President Donald Trump’s Iran envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner quietly traveled to Tennessee this week to meet with nuclear experts who could help implement a potential deal with Tehran, according to a new Axios report.

Axios, citing two U.S. officials, reported the pair visited Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security Complex on Thursday as the White House pushes toward a possible memorandum of understanding with Iran.

According to Axios, the officials said a team of roughly 100 experts was recently assembled to prepare for potential technical implementation of a future deal, including handling Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile.

The report said some of the experts involved previously participated in recovering enriched uranium from Venezuela and also joined Witkoff and Kushner during earlier nuclear negotiations in Oman before the war.

The report said the meetings focused on preparations for handling Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile and enforcing possible limits on future enrichment if negotiations move forward.
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A More Optimistic View on Iran

Powerline 6/4/2026

I have often expressed puzzlement over the Trump administration’s cease fire in Iran and its strategy going forward. In general, my views align with Scott’s, as expressed earlier today. However, for a more optimistic view, check out Condoleezza Rice’s op-ed in the Wall Street Journal:

    The war against Iran has been a limited war, and its outcome is likely to be inconclusive. But it has achieved enough to produce a far better Middle East.

    The three-month military campaign degraded Iran’s ability to project power by significantly damaging its conventional forces, missile stockpiles and proxies.

Yes. That was the objective, and the objective has been achieved.

    It drew America, Israel and the Arab states closer together through defense cooperation and intelligence sharing. In this regard, Israel has never been more secure.

That was clearly true early on in the conflict, but it seems that the alliance has been fractured to some degree following closure of the Strait and blockage of oil shipments from the Gulf states.

    Most important, along with Operation Midnight Hammer last June, Operation Epic Fury set back Iranian nuclear ambitions significantly. It will be a long time before Iran can build a viable nuclear weapon.

    Yes, there are large stockpiles of highly enriched uranium somewhere in Iran, but this is a problem for the future, not today. Even if the uranium is at 60% enrichment, a fairly short technical step away from weapons grade, taking that final step is virtually impossible today. To reach weapons-grade—93% or higher—the material must be spun in sensitive centrifuges that are subject to breakage. It is hard to imagine that Iran’s centrifuge cascades survived the intense bombing. The Iranian conversion facility, without which one can’t make a bomb, was destroyed. Its A-team of nuclear scientists has been eliminated.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/06/a-more-optimistic-view-on-iran.php


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A More Optimistic View on Iran

Powerline 6/4/2026

I have often expressed puzzlement over the Trump administration’s cease fire in Iran and its strategy going forward. In general, my views align with Scott’s, as expressed earlier today. However, for a more optimistic view, check out Condoleezza Rice’s op-ed in the Wall Street Journal:

    The war against Iran has been a limited war, and its outcome is likely to be inconclusive. But it has achieved enough to produce a far better Middle East.

    The three-month military campaign degraded Iran’s ability to project power by significantly damaging its conventional forces, missile stockpiles and proxies.

Yes. That was the objective, and the objective has been achieved.

    It drew America, Israel and the Arab states closer together through defense cooperation and intelligence sharing. In this regard, Israel has never been more secure.

That was clearly true early on in the conflict, but it seems that the alliance has been fractured to some degree following closure of the Strait and blockage of oil shipments from the Gulf states.

    Most important, along with Operation Midnight Hammer last June, Operation Epic Fury set back Iranian nuclear ambitions significantly. It will be a long time before Iran can build a viable nuclear weapon.

    Yes, there are large stockpiles of highly enriched uranium somewhere in Iran, but this is a problem for the future, not today. Even if the uranium is at 60% enrichment, a fairly short technical step away from weapons grade, taking that final step is virtually impossible today. To reach weapons-grade—93% or higher—the material must be spun in sensitive centrifuges that are subject to breakage. It is hard to imagine that Iran’s centrifuge cascades survived the intense bombing. The Iranian conversion facility, without which one can’t make a bomb, was destroyed. Its A-team of nuclear scientists has been eliminated.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/06/a-more-optimistic-view-on-iran.php
Besides what Rice says, it has also revealed the ineptness of the so-called coalition named NATO.  Their support for the US has been proven to be weak in spite of the US providing the bulk of the financial and military support for Europe for decades.

I also think the animosity of Iran to the world, particularly to its own neighbors, has also been revealed.

Finally, the importance of ME oil on the world stage cannot be overstated.  We are entering a difficult period through this year of world shortages of crude which will most certainly result in added emphasis on procuring sufficient oil reserves in preparation for the next oil crisis period.
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https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2063227955149476145

China's biggest objective at this point is to provoke Trump into a long-term war. Yes, I said China. It was never Iran. It was Barzini (China) all along.

China is doing everything we should be doing. It is being very patient, keeping its powder dry, while quietly pushing its enemy into expending military reserves.

Trump jumped right into it, and likely will again. At this point, both the pro-war right and anti-war right are disappointed. In the end, he will choose the neocons simply because they will cover for him. Trump lost the anti-war right when he took this action to begin with, and they aren't coming back.

If he makes a deal, the anti-war right will simply say "TACO." They will give him no credit for restraining himself.





 

 

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Finally, by saying the truth out loud a US president exposed the reality of never-ending conflict in the Middle East. 

Well done, President Trump.   Now let's go home. 





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Where are you getting this information @Right_in_Virginia ?

Most of it from the NY Times.  The rest she makes up.
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Trump lost the anti-war right when he took this action to begin with, and they aren't coming back.

If this is true, how is it possible every Trump endorsed candidate across the nation has won?

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Most of it from the NY Times.  The rest she makes up.

What's not from the NYT report. --- what did I "make up" @Hoodat ?

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Trump envoys reportedly met with nuclear experts in Tennessee as Iran talks intensify  **nononono* **nononono* **nononono*

President Donald Trump’s Iran envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner quietly traveled to Tennessee this week to meet with nuclear experts who could help implement a potential deal with Tehran, according to a new Axios report.


Which indicates that those two birds clearly have NO clue about what they are doing.  They're in way over their heads.
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Which indicates that those two birds clearly have NO clue about what they are doing.  They're in way over their heads.

Who should they be talking to about help with handling, storing enriched uranium?  To be clear, I'm not defending these two, I'm wondering who are the right people/agency to provide help.

Thanks.






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Which indicates that those two birds clearly have NO clue about what they are doing.  They're in way over their heads.

I know very little about Witcoff, so I did a quick search. Like Kushner, noting that he is a real estate investor was enough information for me to discern (of course just my opinion, I have no valid proof other than connecting the dots) that these two clowns have other motives in the ME.  Jared made a bundle from 'deals' over in the ME with Saudi Arabia.

He also has acted as a negotiator between Russia and Ukraine -- that obviously hasn't been successful either.

Steven Charles Witkoff is an American real estate investor and former attorney who is the founder of the Witkoff Group. Since 2025, Witkoff has served as the United States special envoy to the Middle East and special envoy for peace missions.

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What's not from the NYT report. --- what did I "make up" @Hoodat ?

For starters, the part about Israel shredding the cease fire and governance proposals by the Trump administration for Gaza and the West Bank.
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For starters, the part about Israel shredding the cease fire and governance proposals by the Trump administration for Gaza and the West Bank.

@Hoodat

Post a link to my post and I'll be happy to retrieve the backup for you.  Thanks.

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Post a link to my post and I'll be happy to retrieve the backup for you.  Thanks.

Retrieve the backup?  Sorry, I'm not following.  I provided your claim.  Show me it didn't originate with you.
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I know very little about Witcoff, so I did a quick search. Like Kushner, noting that he is a real estate investor was enough information for me to discern (of course just my opinion, I have no valid proof other than connecting the dots) that these two clowns have other motives in the ME.

He also has acted as a negotiator between Russia and Ukraine -- that obviously hasn't been successful either.

Steven Charles Witkoff is an American real estate investor and former attorney who is the founder of the Witkoff Group. Since 2025, Witkoff has served as the United States special envoy to the Middle East and special envoy for peace missions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Witkoff

Trump's thinking outside the box .... trying to end generations upon generations of war ---- And you don't do this by sending in the usual clowns to rehash the same worn out proposals. 

Trump's trying to move the needle from war to new alliances forged in the arena of commerce.  We should be wishing him luck, not ridiculing his judgement.