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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1250 on: May 20, 2026, 10:10:16 am »
In all fairness we don't know what the deal is or if in fact there will be one.

The point Keane was making is ANY deal is a huge mistake that will have to be paid for later. Deals are what the loser of a war asks for, not the victor.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1251 on: May 20, 2026, 11:45:26 am »
Trump says he’s in coordination with Netanyahu on Iran: ‘He'll do whatever I want him to do’

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are on the same page when it comes to the next steps with Iran.

“He's fine. He'll do whatever I want him to do,” Trump said about Netanyahu. “He's very, very good, man. He'll do whatever I want him to do. And he said, he's a great guy to me. He's a great guy. Don't forget, he was a wartime prime minister, and he's not treated right in Israel, in my opinion.”

"I think they have a president over there that treats him very poorly," Trump added,. He then responded "yeah" to a reporter who asked Trump if he and Netanyahu are  aligned on Iran.

Trump called off a planned strike on Iran on May 18.

The Times of Israel, citing Israel's Channel 12, reported Tuesday that Israel’s leaders were preparing to rejoin potential U.S. strikes on Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1252 on: May 20, 2026, 11:45:57 am »
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is in “no hurry” to make a deal with Iran despite the upcoming U.S. midterm elections later this year.

Speaking at Joint Base Andrews, Trump made the remark after a reporter asked him if he would be in favor of a partial deal with Iran that just covered the Strait of Hormuz.

“We'd have to open the strait, that would open immediately. So we're going to give this one shot. I'm in no hurry,” Trump said. “You know everyone thinks ‘oh the midterms, I'm in a hurry.’ I’m in no hurry.”

"I just, ideally, I'd like to see few people killed as opposed to a lot. And we can do it either way. But I'd like to see fewer people killed. I just wonder whether or not they have the good of the people,” Trump also said about Iran.

“Because some of the things they're doing, to me, means they don't have the good of the people, and they have to have the good of the people. There's a lot of anger now in Iran because people are living so badly. There's a lot of foment that we haven't seen before so much. And we'll see what happens,” Trump added.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1254 on: May 20, 2026, 12:02:34 pm »
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JD VANCE: "We are NOT going to have a deal that allows Iran to have a nuclear weapon...WE ARE LOCKED AND LOADED." 🔥

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1255 on: May 20, 2026, 01:39:00 pm »
ranian parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is looking to “start a new war,” a report said.

“The enemy’s movements, both overt and clandestine, show that despite economic and political pressure, it has not abandoned its military objectives and is seeking to start a new war,” Ghalibaf said in a statement shared by Iranian media, according to The Times of Israel.

“Close monitoring of the situation in the United States reinforces the possibility that they still hope for the surrender of the Iranian nation,” he reportedly added.

President Donald Trump said Monday that the United States was holding off on a planned attack on Iran that had been scheduled for Tuesday, citing what he described as “serious negotiations” involving key Middle Eastern allies.

Fox News Digital’s Emma Bussey contributed to this post.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1256 on: May 20, 2026, 01:50:50 pm »
Knock it off with the "Locked an Loaded!"


 888high58888  Enough already!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1257 on: May 20, 2026, 02:02:09 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1258 on: May 20, 2026, 03:10:24 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.

So far Trump has been good at talking the talk but not so much at walking the walk.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1259 on: May 20, 2026, 03:13:58 pm »
We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal.

America and Israel are on HIGH ALERT, ready to blast the mullahs to smithereens <- 38th time he has said this

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.

Trump has lost his freaking mind. This entire venture could have been done and over with months ago but for Trump's obstruction and roadblocks.
Not only does Trump show no interest in winning the war, he is actively preventing the United States from getting it over with, by a few days at a time.

We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.

What the hell is Trump doing!? What the hell is wrong with him? Is he STUPID? Is he retarded? Has he lost his freaking mind. It certainly seems like he has.
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« Reply #1260 on: May 20, 2026, 03:21:05 pm »
We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal.

America and Israel are on HIGH ALERT, ready to blast the mullahs to smithereens <- 38th time he has said this

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.

Trump has lost his freaking mind. This entire venture could have been done and over with months ago but for Trump's obstruction and roadblocks.
Not only does Trump show no interest in winning the war, he is actively preventing the United States from getting it over with, by a few days at a time.

We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.

What the hell is Trump doing!? What the hell is wrong with him? Is he STUPID? Is he retarded? Has he lost his freaking mind. It certainly seems like he has.

Hopefully the Iranians are just as confused and also wonder what the hell is wrong with him??   :laugh:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1261 on: May 20, 2026, 03:38:50 pm »
Do we know if any ships are moving through the Strait of Hormuz?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1262 on: May 20, 2026, 03:49:21 pm »

‘FINAL STAGES’: Trump’s Huge Iran Update Sends Oil Prices Tumbling

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May 20, 2026



Oil prices slid hard Wednesday after President Donald Trump said negotiations with Iran are in the “final stages,” fueling fresh hopes that the Strait of Hormuz could reopen and ease the supply crunch.

West Texas Intermediate futures fell more than 6% to $97.74 per barrel by 12:58 p.m. ET. International benchmark Brent futures also dropped nearly 6% to $104.62 per barrel.

Trump told reporters the administration is in the “final stages” of talks, according to a pool report. The comments came after Trump said earlier this week he called off renewed military strikes against Iran to give diplomacy more runway, at the request of Gulf Arab allies.

The market has been whip-sawed for weeks by the back-and-forth between Washington and Tehran. Trump has repeatedly projected confidence about reaching a deal and ending the war quickly, only for tensions to flare again and shipping to remain snarled.

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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/final-stages-trumps-huge-iran-update-sends-oil-prices-tumbling-trin/

What an idiot. Trump could not be a bigger foolish clown in the way he is dealing with Iran. What Trump calls "FINAL STAGES" is what the IRGC calls the beginning of Iranian dominance over the Great Satan. What Trump calls 'final stages', the IRGC calls 'the beginning' of the next war, as soon as they can recover enough to attack again.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1263 on: May 20, 2026, 03:56:30 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1265 on: May 20, 2026, 04:14:36 pm »
This could be starting to get just a bit Demoralizing.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1267 on: May 20, 2026, 04:33:47 pm »
How about that?
30 more days for Iran to dig out missiles and drones.
30 more days for Iran to round up, torture, and execute dissidents.
30 more days for Iran to shakedown neighboring countries and ships in the gulf.

Who could have possibly seen this coming? (everybody)
For whatever reason, Trump has completely lost his mind. Trump is crazy to think Iran will pay any attention to any 'deal'.

Peace in Our Time!!

Neville Chamberlain waves a "Letter of Intent" signed by Hitler and his regime.

The Iranians are playing Trump for a fool. Iran is laughing at Trump and at United States as a country.
Trump calls NATO a paper tiger. Really? Trump is the real paper tiger. But he is "locked and loaded", for whatever that is worth.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1268 on: May 20, 2026, 04:42:04 pm »
How about that?
30 more days for Iran to dig out missiles and drones.
30 more days for Iran to round up, torture, and execute dissidents.
30 more days for Iran to shakedown neighboring countries and ships in the gulf.

Who could have possibly seen this coming? (everybody)
For whatever reason, Trump has completely lost his mind. Trump is crazy to think Iran will pay any attention to any 'deal'.

Peace in Our Time!!

Neville Chamberlain waves a "Letter of Intent" signed by Hitler and his regime.

The Iranians are playing Trump for a fool. Iran is laughing at Trump and at United States as a country.
Trump calls NATO a paper tiger. Really? Trump is the real paper tiger. But he is "locked and loaded", for whatever that is worth.

Amazing deal which could enrich Witkoff and Kersher beyond imagination. Can't you just imagine all those big beautiful resorts along the coast? Spas to die for, world class golf courses and more, much more!!!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1270 on: May 20, 2026, 04:52:40 pm »
Iran’s Persian Gulf Strait Authority (PGSA) announced a controlled management zone covering the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday, asserting regulatory oversight over the key waterway.

In a statement posted on X, the authority said:

“The Islamic Republic of Iran has defined the boundaries of the Strait of Hormuz management supervision area as follows: ‘The line connecting Kuh Mobarak in Iran and the south of Fujairah in the UAE in the east of the strait to the line connecting the end of Qeshm Island in Iran and Umm al-Qaiwain in the UAE in the west of the strait.’”

The announcement comes amid reports that Tehran was moving to formalize state-administered transit tolls under the PGSA framework.

According to maritime intelligence firm Windward AI, Iran has explored imposing fees of up to $2 million for vessels.

Windward AI further reported that the proposed payments would be settled in Chinese yuan and through bitcoin transfers directed to wallets allegedly linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1271 on: May 20, 2026, 04:55:42 pm »
I would love to think that Trump's plan is drawing to an end and we will come in quietly during the night and just obliterate Iran and take over the Strait...finding and removingg the uranium will follow.

That's what I'm hoping anyways.  Do I see that as likely?? Not really.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1272 on: May 20, 2026, 05:11:36 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.

So far Trump has been good at talking the talk but not so much at walking the walk.

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« Reply #1273 on: May 20, 2026, 05:19:52 pm »
WTF??  Is TBR hooked up to Flint, Michigan water??     **nononono*

Trump has done a lot of good things but F'd up royally when he listened to whoever told him to take his foot off the gas in Iran!
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« Reply #1274 on: May 20, 2026, 05:35:35 pm »
Trump has done a lot of good things but F'd up royally when he listened to whoever told him to take his foot off the gas in Iran!

Come on!  What's the darned hurry?  Whose lives are in danger right now?  Not Americans. Iranians??  So what?

Half the Iranian population was born AFTER 1979.  They grew up in that culture/government.  Why is that our concern?

Did we give a shit about the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagaski?  Certainly not Dresden and Berlin.

This isn't a sporting event...a Stanley Cup final.

Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.

I'm sure he has a helluva lot more information than our "House Generals" here on TBR.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1275 on: May 20, 2026, 05:41:10 pm »
Piss on it, just start bombing.  That, or admit defeat and bring the soldiers home.  This supposed "deal" is the worst one so far!
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« Reply #1276 on: May 20, 2026, 05:42:55 pm »
Come on!  What's the darned hurry?  Whose lives are in danger right now?  Not Americans. Iranians??  So what?

Half the Iranian population was born AFTER 1979.  They grew up in that culture/government.  Why is that our concern?

Did we give a shit about the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagaski?  Certainly not Dresden and Berlin.

This isn't a sporting event...a Stanley Cup final.

Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.

I'm sure he has a helluva lot more information than our "House Generals" here on TBR.
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"We've got your backs!!!"

Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, to the Iranian (Persian) people less than three months ago.

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« Reply #1277 on: May 20, 2026, 05:53:53 pm »
Iran 'prepared for every scenario' while US is not ready, senior Iranian lawmaker warns

Iranian lawmaker Ebrahim Azizi, head of the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, said Wednesday that Tehran was prepared for any scenario and that the U.S. was not ready.

“Iran’s experience is indicative of America’s inherent and perpetual bad faith; therefore, we are prepared for every scenario,” he said in a post shared on X.

“Even now, despite the severe media blackout, the American people know how much cost and damage their government has imposed on them,” Azizi added.

“The world has felt Iran’s astonishing power, though many more surprises remain,” he said.

In another post, Azizi said Iran showed “amazing power” in the conflict.

“The era of trusting U.S. diplomacy is over, and now we are ready for every scenario,” he said.

“While mainstream media tries to hide the reality, the American public is feeling the crushing cost of their government’s failed war against Iran,” he said.

“They’ve felt our amazing power. They’re not ready for what’s coming,” Azizi warned.
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« Reply #1278 on: May 20, 2026, 05:54:38 pm »
Vahidi threatens 'devastating blows' if Iran's territory is attacked again

Maj. Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned Wednesday that any new attack on Iran would trigger a devastating response.

“If any further aggression is committed against the soil of Iran, that fire whose promise was previously given and remained confined within the framework of a limited regional war, this time will erupt into flames and transcend every border and domain; you will receive devastating blows that will leave you in abject defeat and consign your ignominy to the annals of history,” Vahidi wrote in a post shared on X.

In March, Iranian state media reported that the regime appointed Vahidi — a former defense and interior minister — as the new commander of the IRGC.

Vahidi is under U.S. sanctions for his role in Iran’s suppression of protests, including the use of lethal force by security services during the nationwide demonstrations in 2022.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1279 on: May 20, 2026, 06:03:39 pm »


Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.
 


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1281 on: May 20, 2026, 06:05:38 pm »
Devasting blows and not ready for what's coming sounds a little nuclear to me.

I just hope this is saber rattling.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1282 on: May 20, 2026, 06:08:36 pm »


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...

Here we sit.  What the heck did Jared promise them???? 
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« Reply #1283 on: May 20, 2026, 06:35:40 pm »

https://twitter.com/BrettErickson28/status/2057189039292428405

So now the losers set their intentions ---- and the parameters for ending the war they already lost?

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« Reply #1284 on: May 20, 2026, 06:49:01 pm »


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...
With bank accounts frozen and no income from oil, please tell us how they can do that.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1285 on: May 20, 2026, 06:50:35 pm »
So now the losers set their intentions ---- and the parameters for ending the war they already lost?

Paging Razin Caine ---- please pick up the red courtesy phone!

I am very doubtful at this point that Trump would listen to him.  Our CIC is holding back for whatever reason.   :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1286 on: May 20, 2026, 09:34:06 pm »
Oil prices fall more than 6% as Trump says Iran negotiations in final stages

The U.S. dollar traded below a six-week high on Thursday, easing as investors grew optimistic that Washington could be nearing an agreement with Tehran to end the conflict in the Middle East, Reuters reported.

President Donald Trump had said Wednesday negotiations were in their "final stages" on but warned that additional attacks could follow if Iran failed to reach a deal.

“We’ll see what happens. Either we have a deal or we’re going to do some things that are a little bit nasty, but hopefully that won’t happen,” he said.

Brent crude futures had fallen $6.64, or 5.97%, to $104.64 per barrel by 1:45 p.m. EDT, and U.S. West Texas Intermediate futures were down $6.49, or 6.23%, to $97.66, Reuters said.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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Iran's ability to rebuild damaged military infrastructure set back by months, not years - report

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MAY 21, 2026



Damage caused by the United States and Israel to Iran’s military industrial bases has set the country’s ability to rebuild its combat infrastructure back months, not years, CNN reported on Thursday, citing a source familiar with recent US intelligence assessments.

Some of Iran’s military industrial base remained intact, the source added, which could serve to further accelerate Iran’s timeline for rebuilding certain capabilities.

Additional US intelligence estimates that Iran could “fully reconstitute its drone attack capability in as soon as six months,” according to another source, who is a US official, adding that “the Iranians have exceeded all timelines the IC had for reconstitution.”

This confirms additional reports that Iran had restarted some of its drone production during the ongoing ceasefire that began in April, two other sources familiar with US intelligence assessments told CNN.

Further, four other sources familiar with US intelligence assessments explained that Iran’s ability to rebuild its military infrastructure, including repairing destroyed missile sites, launchers, and its production capacity for key weapons systems, means that it continues to remain a “significant threat” to the region.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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New Iran peace proposal triggers tense Trump-Netanyahu call

https://www.axios.com/2026/05/20/trump-netanyahu-call-iran-peace-plan

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President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu discussed a new effort to reach a deal with Iran in a difficult call on Tuesday, three sources said, with one source saying Netanyahu's "hair was on fire" after the call.

Why it matters: A revised peace memo was drafted by Qatar and Pakistan with input from the other regional mediators to try to bridge the gaps between the U.S. and Iran, the sources said. It comes with Trump vacillating over ordering a massive strike on Iran and holding out for a deal.

Netanyahu is highly skeptical about the negotiations and wants to resume the war to further degrade Iran's military capabilities and weaken the regime by destroying its critical infrastructure.
Trump continues to say he thinks a deal can be reached but that he's ready to resume the war if it isn't.

"The only question is do we go and finish it up or are they gonna be signing a document. Let's see what happens," he said on Wednesday at the Coast Guard Academy. Later on Wednesday, he said the U.S. and Iran were "right on the borderline" between getting a deal and resuming the war.

Trump also said Netanyahu "will do whatever I want him to do" on Iran, though he also said they had a good relationship. The two leaders have had temporary disagreements on Iran before but have remained closely coordinated throughout the war.

Iran has confirmed it's reviewing an updated proposal, but it has not yet shown any signs of flexibility.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1289 on: Today at 07:50:15 am »
Here we sit.  What the heck did Jared promise them????

Jared likely got something for stalling 47 so many times and giving them time to regroup and rearm. He may have gotten some beach front property to develop.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1290 on: Today at 07:56:36 am »
With bank accounts frozen and no income from oil, please tell us how they can do that.

From all the smuggling, from Pakistan & China. There is huge truck and train traffic moving in both direction across the Pakistan border. Not as lucrative as before but it will add up over time.

As for nukes, they likely have sites we do not know about and are refining as they get more time from 47. We do not know the actual damage done to existing sites - only inferences/conjectures from satellite images which may be incorrect - only people on the ground know what is lost or not.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1291 on: Today at 08:03:54 am »
The Head Mullah just said the nuke material must remain in Iran. Yesterday they announced an Iranian controlling authority for passage through the Strait.

Since the IRGC and the Head Mullah run the country, whomever 47 is "negotiating" with are just stalling him repeatedly, and he repeatedly goes along with them. There something going on with 47 that has no direct bearing on any Iranian deal.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1292 on: Today at 08:10:58 am »
From all the smuggling, from Pakistan & China. There is huge truck and train traffic moving in both direction across the Pakistan border. Not as lucrative as before but it will add up over time.
Smuggling into the country does not provide cash for them to pay for goods.

And undoubtedly US military is aware of any truck traffic that might contain weaponry, which we can contain due to our control of Iranian skies.

The regime is stalled out on paying for anything.
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Smuggling into the country does not provide cash for them to pay for goods.

And undoubtedly US military is aware of any truck traffic that might contain weaponry, which we can contain due to our control of Iranian skies.

The regime is stalled out on paying for anything.

Smuggling goes both ways ... oil out, cash in.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1295 on: Today at 08:39:43 am »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2057420016891351326

So let me ask the House Trump Haters Coalition (HTHC) here in TBR:

WTH is so terrible to wait until this declaration from the  one-eared, one-eyed Iranian People Eater before we bomb the living crap out of them?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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Former White House envoy has warning for Trump on how not to get played by Iran

Former Trump envoy Morgan Ortagus warned Wednesday that Iran may be using ongoing nuclear negotiations to "buy time" as President Donald Trump pauses planned military strikes and extends a fragile ceasefire to allow more room for diplomacy.

Speaking with Fox News Digital after the Middle East Forum in Washington, Ortagus said Iran has long used drawn-out negotiations as a strategy to delay pressure while preserving leverage.

"It’s the tactic of the regime to stall, to draw negotiations, to buy time," Ortagus said of Iran. "I would encourage the president not to fall into the trap that the Iranians like to do … which is to drag things out to buy time."

Trump recently paused planned strikes and extended diplomatic talks with Iran following pressure from Gulf allies seeking more time for negotiations, even as the administration continues pressing Iran over its nuclear program and regional proxy network.

Ortagus, who served as State Department spokeswoman during Trump’s first term and later worked on Middle East negotiations during his second administration, argued the White House now has more leverage than previous administrations in dealing with Iran.

Critics of past Iran negotiations, including many Trump administration officials, have long argued Iran used diplomacy to prolong talks while continuing to advance aspects of its nuclear program. Trump withdrew from the Obama-era Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA, in 2018, calling it a "disastrous" agreement that failed to permanently curb Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

This is an excerpt from an article by Fox News' Morgan Phillips.
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Former Trump envoy Morgan Ortagus warned Wednesday that Iran may be using ongoing nuclear negotiations to "buy time" .  .  .

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1299 on: Today at 10:34:01 am »
Come on!  What's the darned hurry?  Whose lives are in danger right now?  Not Americans. Iranians??  So what?

Half the Iranian population was born AFTER 1979.  They grew up in that culture/government.  Why is that our concern?

Did we give a shit about the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagaski?  Certainly not Dresden and Berlin.

This isn't a sporting event...a Stanley Cup final.

Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.

I'm sure he has a helluva lot more information than our "House Generals" here on TBR.
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Oh come on @DCPatriot  Iran was 2 weeks away from have nuclear capabilities -- yes we went in an bombed their bunkers -- whether or not we hit all of them is doubtful, so they simply use bunkers that haven't been busted or they clear out the bunkers and reload.  Meanwhile, China, Russia and Pakistan are certainly helping Iran.

Secondly, the Strait of Hormuz is still somewhat under Iranian control.  They still have uranium.  They want their $$ unfrozen.  Don't you see anything wrong with that picture???

P.S. I don't hate Trump ... but he has bungled this conflict BIGLY!!

Generals and others have told Trump not to trust Iran and that they are only using this time to rebuild, restrengthen and rearm.  Don't you see anything wrong with Trump not moving??? Especially since he continues to repeatedly kick the can down the road.

Something very  wrong is going on in the Trump circle and IMO it IS endangering our troops and our country and the innocents that continue to be slaughtered by the leadership of Iran.
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