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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1250 on: Today at 10:10:16 am »
In all fairness we don't know what the deal is or if in fact there will be one.

The point Keane was making is ANY deal is a huge mistake that will have to be paid for later. Deals are what the loser of a war asks for, not the victor.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1251 on: Today at 11:45:26 am »
Trump says he’s in coordination with Netanyahu on Iran: ‘He'll do whatever I want him to do’

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are on the same page when it comes to the next steps with Iran.

“He's fine. He'll do whatever I want him to do,” Trump said about Netanyahu. “He's very, very good, man. He'll do whatever I want him to do. And he said, he's a great guy to me. He's a great guy. Don't forget, he was a wartime prime minister, and he's not treated right in Israel, in my opinion.”

"I think they have a president over there that treats him very poorly," Trump added,. He then responded "yeah" to a reporter who asked Trump if he and Netanyahu are  aligned on Iran.

Trump called off a planned strike on Iran on May 18.

The Times of Israel, citing Israel's Channel 12, reported Tuesday that Israel’s leaders were preparing to rejoin potential U.S. strikes on Iran.
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« Reply #1252 on: Today at 11:45:57 am »
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is in “no hurry” to make a deal with Iran despite the upcoming U.S. midterm elections later this year.

Speaking at Joint Base Andrews, Trump made the remark after a reporter asked him if he would be in favor of a partial deal with Iran that just covered the Strait of Hormuz.

“We'd have to open the strait, that would open immediately. So we're going to give this one shot. I'm in no hurry,” Trump said. “You know everyone thinks ‘oh the midterms, I'm in a hurry.’ I’m in no hurry.”

"I just, ideally, I'd like to see few people killed as opposed to a lot. And we can do it either way. But I'd like to see fewer people killed. I just wonder whether or not they have the good of the people,” Trump also said about Iran.

“Because some of the things they're doing, to me, means they don't have the good of the people, and they have to have the good of the people. There's a lot of anger now in Iran because people are living so badly. There's a lot of foment that we haven't seen before so much. And we'll see what happens,” Trump added.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1254 on: Today at 12:02:34 pm »
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JD VANCE: "We are NOT going to have a deal that allows Iran to have a nuclear weapon...WE ARE LOCKED AND LOADED." 🔥

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1255 on: Today at 01:39:00 pm »
ranian parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is looking to “start a new war,” a report said.

“The enemy’s movements, both overt and clandestine, show that despite economic and political pressure, it has not abandoned its military objectives and is seeking to start a new war,” Ghalibaf said in a statement shared by Iranian media, according to The Times of Israel.

“Close monitoring of the situation in the United States reinforces the possibility that they still hope for the surrender of the Iranian nation,” he reportedly added.

President Donald Trump said Monday that the United States was holding off on a planned attack on Iran that had been scheduled for Tuesday, citing what he described as “serious negotiations” involving key Middle Eastern allies.

Fox News Digital’s Emma Bussey contributed to this post.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1256 on: Today at 01:50:50 pm »
Knock it off with the "Locked an Loaded!"


 888high58888  Enough already!
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« Reply #1257 on: Today at 02:02:09 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.
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« Reply #1258 on: Today at 03:10:24 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.

So far Trump has been good at talking the talk but not so much at walking the walk.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1259 on: Today at 03:13:58 pm »
We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal.

America and Israel are on HIGH ALERT, ready to blast the mullahs to smithereens <- 38th time he has said this

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.

Trump has lost his freaking mind. This entire venture could have been done and over with months ago but for Trump's obstruction and roadblocks.
Not only does Trump show no interest in winning the war, he is actively preventing the United States from getting it over with, by a few days at a time.

We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.

What the hell is Trump doing!? What the hell is wrong with him? Is he STUPID? Is he retarded? Has he lost his freaking mind. It certainly seems like he has.
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« Reply #1260 on: Today at 03:21:05 pm »
We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal.

America and Israel are on HIGH ALERT, ready to blast the mullahs to smithereens <- 38th time he has said this

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.

Trump has lost his freaking mind. This entire venture could have been done and over with months ago but for Trump's obstruction and roadblocks.
Not only does Trump show no interest in winning the war, he is actively preventing the United States from getting it over with, by a few days at a time.

We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time to make a deal.
Time expires.
We have to give Iran more time.

What the hell is Trump doing!? What the hell is wrong with him? Is he STUPID? Is he retarded? Has he lost his freaking mind. It certainly seems like he has.

Hopefully the Iranians are just as confused and also wonder what the hell is wrong with him??   :laugh:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1261 on: Today at 03:38:50 pm »
Do we know if any ships are moving through the Strait of Hormuz?

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« Reply #1262 on: Today at 03:49:21 pm »

‘FINAL STAGES’: Trump’s Huge Iran Update Sends Oil Prices Tumbling

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May 20, 2026



Oil prices slid hard Wednesday after President Donald Trump said negotiations with Iran are in the “final stages,” fueling fresh hopes that the Strait of Hormuz could reopen and ease the supply crunch.

West Texas Intermediate futures fell more than 6% to $97.74 per barrel by 12:58 p.m. ET. International benchmark Brent futures also dropped nearly 6% to $104.62 per barrel.

Trump told reporters the administration is in the “final stages” of talks, according to a pool report. The comments came after Trump said earlier this week he called off renewed military strikes against Iran to give diplomacy more runway, at the request of Gulf Arab allies.

The market has been whip-sawed for weeks by the back-and-forth between Washington and Tehran. Trump has repeatedly projected confidence about reaching a deal and ending the war quickly, only for tensions to flare again and shipping to remain snarled.

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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/final-stages-trumps-huge-iran-update-sends-oil-prices-tumbling-trin/

What an idiot. Trump could not be a bigger foolish clown in the way he is dealing with Iran. What Trump calls "FINAL STAGES" is what the IRGC calls the beginning of Iranian dominance over the Great Satan. What Trump calls 'final stages', the IRGC calls 'the beginning' of the next war, as soon as they can recover enough to attack again.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1263 on: Today at 03:56:30 pm »
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« Reply #1265 on: Today at 04:14:36 pm »
This could be starting to get just a bit Demoralizing.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1267 on: Today at 04:33:47 pm »
How about that?
30 more days for Iran to dig out missiles and drones.
30 more days for Iran to round up, torture, and execute dissidents.
30 more days for Iran to shakedown neighboring countries and ships in the gulf.

Who could have possibly seen this coming? (everybody)
For whatever reason, Trump has completely lost his mind. Trump is crazy to think Iran will pay any attention to any 'deal'.

Peace in Our Time!!

Neville Chamberlain waves a "Letter of Intent" signed by Hitler and his regime.

The Iranians are playing Trump for a fool. Iran is laughing at Trump and at United States as a country.
Trump calls NATO a paper tiger. Really? Trump is the real paper tiger. But he is "locked and loaded", for whatever that is worth.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1268 on: Today at 04:42:04 pm »
How about that?
30 more days for Iran to dig out missiles and drones.
30 more days for Iran to round up, torture, and execute dissidents.
30 more days for Iran to shakedown neighboring countries and ships in the gulf.

Who could have possibly seen this coming? (everybody)
For whatever reason, Trump has completely lost his mind. Trump is crazy to think Iran will pay any attention to any 'deal'.

Peace in Our Time!!

Neville Chamberlain waves a "Letter of Intent" signed by Hitler and his regime.

The Iranians are playing Trump for a fool. Iran is laughing at Trump and at United States as a country.
Trump calls NATO a paper tiger. Really? Trump is the real paper tiger. But he is "locked and loaded", for whatever that is worth.

Amazing deal which could enrich Witkoff and Kersher beyond imagination. Can't you just imagine all those big beautiful resorts along the coast? Spas to die for, world class golf courses and more, much more!!!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1270 on: Today at 04:52:40 pm »
Iran’s Persian Gulf Strait Authority (PGSA) announced a controlled management zone covering the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday, asserting regulatory oversight over the key waterway.

In a statement posted on X, the authority said:

“The Islamic Republic of Iran has defined the boundaries of the Strait of Hormuz management supervision area as follows: ‘The line connecting Kuh Mobarak in Iran and the south of Fujairah in the UAE in the east of the strait to the line connecting the end of Qeshm Island in Iran and Umm al-Qaiwain in the UAE in the west of the strait.’”

The announcement comes amid reports that Tehran was moving to formalize state-administered transit tolls under the PGSA framework.

According to maritime intelligence firm Windward AI, Iran has explored imposing fees of up to $2 million for vessels.

Windward AI further reported that the proposed payments would be settled in Chinese yuan and through bitcoin transfers directed to wallets allegedly linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1271 on: Today at 04:55:42 pm »
I would love to think that Trump's plan is drawing to an end and we will come in quietly during the night and just obliterate Iran and take over the Strait...finding and removingg the uranium will follow.

That's what I'm hoping anyways.  Do I see that as likely?? Not really.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1272 on: Today at 05:11:36 pm »
So, we didn't have "their backs" at all... They died by the tens of thousands doing what Trump asked them to do... A pretty big black mark on the USA... Doing is a lot harder than talk.

So far Trump has been good at talking the talk but not so much at walking the walk.

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« Reply #1273 on: Today at 05:19:52 pm »
WTF??  Is TBR hooked up to Flint, Michigan water??     **nononono*

Trump has done a lot of good things but F'd up royally when he listened to whoever told him to take his foot off the gas in Iran!
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« Reply #1274 on: Today at 05:35:35 pm »
Trump has done a lot of good things but F'd up royally when he listened to whoever told him to take his foot off the gas in Iran!

Come on!  What's the darned hurry?  Whose lives are in danger right now?  Not Americans. Iranians??  So what?

Half the Iranian population was born AFTER 1979.  They grew up in that culture/government.  Why is that our concern?

Did we give a shit about the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagaski?  Certainly not Dresden and Berlin.

This isn't a sporting event...a Stanley Cup final.

Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.

I'm sure he has a helluva lot more information than our "House Generals" here on TBR.
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Piss on it, just start bombing.  That, or admit defeat and bring the soldiers home.  This supposed "deal" is the worst one so far!
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« Reply #1276 on: Today at 05:42:55 pm »
Come on!  What's the darned hurry?  Whose lives are in danger right now?  Not Americans. Iranians??  So what?

Half the Iranian population was born AFTER 1979.  They grew up in that culture/government.  Why is that our concern?

Did we give a shit about the citizens of Hiroshima, Nagaski?  Certainly not Dresden and Berlin.

This isn't a sporting event...a Stanley Cup final.

Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.

I'm sure he has a helluva lot more information than our "House Generals" here on TBR.
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Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, to the Iranian (Persian) people less than three months ago.

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Iran 'prepared for every scenario' while US is not ready, senior Iranian lawmaker warns

Iranian lawmaker Ebrahim Azizi, head of the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, said Wednesday that Tehran was prepared for any scenario and that the U.S. was not ready.

“Iran’s experience is indicative of America’s inherent and perpetual bad faith; therefore, we are prepared for every scenario,” he said in a post shared on X.

“Even now, despite the severe media blackout, the American people know how much cost and damage their government has imposed on them,” Azizi added.

“The world has felt Iran’s astonishing power, though many more surprises remain,” he said.

In another post, Azizi said Iran showed “amazing power” in the conflict.

“The era of trusting U.S. diplomacy is over, and now we are ready for every scenario,” he said.

“While mainstream media tries to hide the reality, the American public is feeling the crushing cost of their government’s failed war against Iran,” he said.

“They’ve felt our amazing power. They’re not ready for what’s coming,” Azizi warned.
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Vahidi threatens 'devastating blows' if Iran's territory is attacked again

Maj. Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned Wednesday that any new attack on Iran would trigger a devastating response.

“If any further aggression is committed against the soil of Iran, that fire whose promise was previously given and remained confined within the framework of a limited regional war, this time will erupt into flames and transcend every border and domain; you will receive devastating blows that will leave you in abject defeat and consign your ignominy to the annals of history,” Vahidi wrote in a post shared on X.

In March, Iranian state media reported that the regime appointed Vahidi — a former defense and interior minister — as the new commander of the IRGC.

Vahidi is under U.S. sanctions for his role in Iran’s suppression of protests, including the use of lethal force by security services during the nationwide demonstrations in 2022.
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Given the awesome power of the American and Israeli military...what they've accomplished since this started, POTUS has earned the right to finish this crap at his leisure.
 


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...
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Offline berdie

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1281 on: Today at 06:05:38 pm »
Devasting blows and not ready for what's coming sounds a little nuclear to me.

I just hope this is saber rattling.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1282 on: Today at 06:08:36 pm »


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...

Here we sit.  What the heck did Jared promise them???? 
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1283 on: Today at 06:35:40 pm »

https://twitter.com/BrettErickson28/status/2057189039292428405

So now the losers set their intentions ---- and the parameters for ending the war they already lost?

Paging Razin Caine ---- please pick up the red courtesy phone!

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1284 on: Today at 06:49:01 pm »


And at their leisure, the IRGC has earned the right to finish their nuke program ...
With bank accounts frozen and no income from oil, please tell us how they can do that.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1285 on: Today at 06:50:35 pm »
So now the losers set their intentions ---- and the parameters for ending the war they already lost?

Paging Razin Caine ---- please pick up the red courtesy phone!

I am very doubtful at this point that Trump would listen to him.  Our CIC is holding back for whatever reason.   :shrug:
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18