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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #401 on: Today at 05:50:53 pm »
The reason was enriched uranium and nuclear weapons. Anything short of securing that is in fact a failure. One cannot just pack up and go home while claiming victory if that is not achieved.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #402 on: Today at 07:18:53 pm »
The reason was enriched uranium and nuclear weapons. Anything short of securing that is in fact a failure. One cannot just pack up and go home while claiming victory if that is not achieved.

If the enrichment facilities have been destroyed, and the uranium is buried somewhere or over in Pakistan (as an example), then what remains in U.S. control is  the Strait of Hormuz, which will take appx. 6 mos. to ensure that the mines are no longer a threat. The blockade may remain in place and technically the U.S. isn't declaring war??

Two more days till the WPA ends...who knows what is going to happen.  We can make assumptions, but Trump called off the meeting that Witkoff and Kushner were supposed to attend because negotiations failed; there is no negotiating with Iran.  :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #403 on: Today at 07:32:18 pm »
The reason was enriched uranium and nuclear weapons. Anything short of securing that is in fact a failure. One cannot just pack up and go home while claiming victory if that is not achieved.
The nuclear material cannot be used readily as it is inaccesible. That is not optimum, but a win.

What is accessible is nuclear warheads being obtained by Iran from China or North Korea.

That angle is reduced by strangling Iran's cash by stifling its oilflow and freezing its assets.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #405 on: Today at 08:42:01 pm »
The nuclear material cannot be used readily as it is inaccesible. That is not optimum, but a win.

What is accessible is nuclear warheads being obtained by Iran from China or North Korea.

That angle is reduced by strangling Iran's cash by stifling its oilflow and freezing its assets.

That's the claim. But how do you actually know that? Pretty big bet. No one really knows where the uranium is until it is found. And how long will it take to dig it up if it is buried. Not very long. So I'm not buying that is a win.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #406 on: Today at 08:56:51 pm »
That's the claim. But how do you actually know that? Pretty big bet. No one really knows where the uranium is until it is found. And how long will it take to dig it up if it is buried. Not very long. So I'm not buying that is a win.

IMHO anything short of the Persian people being freed from their Arab oppressors is not a win.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #407 on: Today at 09:08:45 pm »
IMHO anything short of the Persian people being freed from their Arab oppressors is not a win.

I agree. But the official cause was enriched uranium.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #408 on: Today at 09:46:36 pm »
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So, Trump was not lying, them shitheads stole the weapons in KRI, and there’s evidence.
write it down:

PUK (Patriotic Union of Kurdistan) stole the Iranian protester-destined weapons and scammed CIA.
Worse: Helped the Islamic Regime to stand and stay longer.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #412 on: Today at 10:00:39 pm »

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